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Post by bearsandbulls on Apr 22, 2020 13:45:01 GMT -5
I doubt that I get very much agreement here, but I think the G League in the NBA is long overdue, but actually should be used in a slightly different manor. First off I like it in that it gives very good young BB players an opportunity to develop their skills without college. In many ways, this may harm the image of college BB in the short term, but I believe it could help it get back to the true "Student Athlete" concept. A University would have to show that the SA could get in within a certain percentage of its average student acceptance, and the SA would have to keep up a GPA while in college that is within a close range of the general student body curve center. This would weed out those players using college to further their skills, and then dump the college at their first convenience.
There are just too many situations where with the one and done an athlete comes in Fall Semester; starts BB practice and games around Nov 1; has no grades until late Dec or even Jan; goes down GPA and is given the next semester to make up the amount that the GPA is down in the spring. Not done, and off to the league. Or just start in the G League and give back the rep of student athletes in BB as students. Many are, but as we know many are on the fringe. Yes quality would suffer, but over time it would level out and quality teams would rise. Of course, the NCAA money machine would not even listen to this scenario.
Most of the student/athletes at G'town are in close proximity to the general student body in acceptance and performance----in other sports (rowing, cross country, soccer, lacrosse). I ask, why not BB?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 22, 2020 13:50:24 GMT -5
Most of the student/athletes at G'town are in close proximity to the general student body in acceptance and performance----in other sports (rowing, cross country, soccer, lacrosse). I ask, why not BB? I think you are making some broad assumptions here. |
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Post by RockawayHoya on Apr 22, 2020 14:32:58 GMT -5
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Post by mapei on Apr 22, 2020 14:39:58 GMT -5
I doubt that I get very much agreement here, but I think the G League in the NBA is long overdue, but actually should be used in a slightly different manor. First off I like it in that it gives very good young BB players an opportunity to develop their skills without college. In many ways, this may harm the image of college BB in the short term, but I believe it could help it get back to the true "Student Athlete" concept. A University would have to show that the SA could get in within a certain percentage of its average student acceptance, and the SA would have to keep up a GPA while in college that is within a close range of the general student body curve center. This would weed out those players using college to further their skills, and then dump the college at their first convenience. There are just too many situations where with the one and done an athlete comes in Fall Semester; starts BB practice and games around Nov 1; has no grades until late Dec or even Jan; goes down GPA and is given the next semester to make up the amount that the GPA is down in the spring. Not done, and off to the league. Or just start in the G League and give back the rep of student athletes in BB as students. Many are, but as we know many are on the fringe. Yes quality would suffer, but over time it would level out and quality teams would rise. Of course, the NCAA money machine would not even listen to this scenario. Most of the student/athletes at G'town are in close proximity to the general student body in acceptance and performance----in other sports (rowing, cross country, soccer, lacrosse). I ask, why not BB? I totally agree with the take in your first two paragraphs. Just don't know the facts with regard to the third. |
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Post by bearsandbulls on Apr 22, 2020 15:16:06 GMT -5
I doubt that I get very much agreement here, but I think the G League in the NBA is long overdue, but actually should be used in a slightly different manor. First off I like it in that it gives very good young BB players an opportunity to develop their skills without college. In many ways, this may harm the image of college BB in the short term, but I believe it could help it get back to the true "Student Athlete" concept. A University would have to show that the SA could get in within a certain percentage of its average student acceptance, and the SA would have to keep up a GPA while in college that is within a close range of the general student body curve center. This would weed out those players using college to further their skills, and then dump the college at their first convenience. There are just too many situations where with the one and done an athlete comes in Fall Semester; starts BB practice and games around Nov 1; has no grades until late Dec or even Jan; goes down GPA and is given the next semester to make up the amount that the GPA is down in the spring. Not done, and off to the league. Or just start in the G League and give back the rep of student athletes in BB as students. Many are, but as we know many are on the fringe. Yes quality would suffer, but over time it would level out and quality teams would rise. Of course, the NCAA money machine would not even listen to this scenario. Most of the student/athletes at G'town are in close proximity to the general student body in acceptance and performance----in other sports (rowing, cross country, soccer, lacrosse). I ask, why not BB? I totally agree with the take in your first two paragraphs. Just don't know the facts with regard to the third. I must apologize. I do not know that as a fact. But I know at my alma mater (Cal), crew (both men's and women's), swimming, tennis, golf are very close to the GPA of the general student body. At G'town I know that WSOC players the expectation is 3.0 or over to play. I falsely assumed some of the others were the same. I wonder what LAX, XC, Sailing performances are? Let's put it this way. There are majors BB and FB players do not even attempt at many schools. |
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 24, 2020 23:15:17 GMT -5
I doubt that I get very much agreement here, but I think the G League in the NBA is long overdue, but actually should be used in a slightly different manor. First off I like it in that it gives very good young BB players an opportunity to develop their skills without college. In many ways, this may harm the image of college BB in the short term, but I believe it could help it get back to the true "Student Athlete" concept. A University would have to show that the SA could get in within a certain percentage of its average student acceptance, and the SA would have to keep up a GPA while in college that is within a close range of the general student body curve center. This would weed out those players using college to further their skills, and then dump the college at their first convenience. There are just too many situations where with the one and done an athlete comes in Fall Semester; starts BB practice and games around Nov 1; has no grades until late Dec or even Jan; goes down GPA and is given the next semester to make up the amount that the GPA is down in the spring. Not done, and off to the league. Or just start in the G League and give back the rep of student athletes in BB as students. Many are, but as we know many are on the fringe. Yes quality would suffer, but over time it would level out and quality teams would rise. Of course, the NCAA money machine would not even listen to this scenario. Most of the student/athletes at G'town are in close proximity to the general student body in acceptance and performance----in other sports (rowing, cross country, soccer, lacrosse). I ask, why not BB? The NCAA is not at all concerned about getting back to the "true student-athlete" I get that this is the writer's opinion but I think he's on to something with how graduation rates are bound to drop if this rule goes into effect... basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/mcdonald-s-nuggets-transfer-proposal-frank-anselem-unc-commitLastly, we’re going to start seeing fewer graduate transfers going forward. Many of the prospects you see ending up as graduate transfers are able to graduate because they took advantage of the redshirt year that came with transferring. On the flip side, going back to the APR, I’m a little worried we’re going to see fewer players graduating, to begin with, which impacts the APR score. Somebody who transferred schools multiple times could lose a decent amount of credits by changing schools. That’s another problem that will need to be solved over time. |
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 28, 2020 13:03:50 GMT -5
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Post by daveg023 on Apr 28, 2020 14:29:27 GMT -5
Can you imagine this board melting down had we landed someone like RJ Davis who then come May decided to go to the G league?! It’d be ugly.
I think this is a problem, but one that will correct itself once the new rules against one and dones are in place.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 28, 2020 21:21:19 GMT -5
Can you imagine this board melting down had we landed someone like RJ Davis who then come May decided to go to the G league?! It’d be ugly. I think this is a problem, but one that will correct itself once the new rules against one and dones are in place. So, you are saying it’s a good thing we don’t get 5-stars. 😉 4-stars are the new 5-stars! 😎 |
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Post by professorhoya on May 27, 2020 16:09:22 GMT -5
7-2 Kai Soto forgoes college and joins G League Pathway.
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Post by blueeagle on May 27, 2020 19:15:34 GMT -5
I mentioned Kai some months back but got no response from the board regarding any info/interest.
He is an intriguing prospect given his height, skills, and pedigree. He seemed to impress some NBA scouts at a showcase during the all-star break.
Not surprised he chose to enter the G League. That was always his goal. I was a little surprised though that he received feedback from scouts that it was a good idea to bypass college given that he does not seem physically ready to compete with grown men. Perhaps the G League is banking on growing interest for their games from the millions of b-ball fans in the Philippines who have been following Kai’s development for years.
His deal is reported to be about $200k for the year. Not bad for a 17 year old.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 1, 2021 11:20:02 GMT -5
Looks like another paid option is emerging for high school players who don't want to go to college.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 1, 2021 11:36:42 GMT -5
Looks like another paid option is emerging for high school players who don't want to go to college. Counterpoint. Dennis Smith just got relegated to the G league. The guy was a top 5 pick and one and done. I wonder if these picks will ever re-evaluate the value of an education? Probably not but the number of guys that did enter early and not get drafted or make it is long. The guys who did get drafted and make it aren't always getting to that second lucrative contract. A college career may not make that situation any better but to forgo college, toil away in obscurity and then be 25 years old without a degree and have career earnings that won't get you thru age 30 is a real kick in the nuts. |
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