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Post by professorhoya on Apr 16, 2020 15:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 16, 2020 16:06:00 GMT -5
Very interesting and this will definitely change some of the college basketball recruiting landscape.
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Post by trillesthoya on Apr 16, 2020 16:06:57 GMT -5
I wonder how this will impact schools in Georgetown's position. My instinct in this option is only chosen by max 5-10 kids a year, so it won't drastically change our plans considering we have not been competitive with those types of kids to begin with. That said, it will probably lead more blue bloods to look to the transfer market as an option, and could explain why teams like Duke and Kentucky were particularly active in the grad transfer market this year. It's possible blue bloods will start getting in the ears of talented juniors and seniors on teams like Georgetown's to fill the spots that would have otherwise gone to elite freshman talent.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 16, 2020 16:16:08 GMT -5
I wonder how this will impact schools in Georgetown's position. My instinct in this option is only chosen by max 5-10 kids a year, so it won't drastically change our plans considering we have not been competitive with those types of kids to begin with. That said, it will probably lead more blue bloods to look to the transfer market as an option, and could explain why teams like Duke and Kentucky were particularly active in the grad transfer market this year. It's possible blue bloods will start getting in the ears of talented juniors and seniors on teams like Georgetown's to fill the spots that would have otherwise gone to elite freshman talent. I think it can only help the schools that aren't blue bloods (blue bloods are around 7 schools plus 7 cheating schools like Arizona and LSU). More than likely I would imagine that Calipari will jump ship to the NBA or maybe even G League (if they are serious about becoming a real league) for a huge payout. Cal is always one step ahead of everyone else. Coach K will probably return to his old way, I don't think he was ever comfortable with the one and dones. Self will probably finally get fired at KU. Roy Williams probably retires being as fed up as it is. This is a huge opportunity for the have nots.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 16, 2020 16:20:05 GMT -5
it will probably lead more blue bloods to look to the transfer market as an option, and could explain why teams like Duke and Kentucky were particularly active in the grad transfer market this year. It's possible blue bloods will start getting in the ears of talented juniors and seniors on teams like Georgetown's to fill the spots that would have otherwise gone to elite freshman talent. Also it seems that the salary increase from $125,000 for 5 months to $500,000 is a really recent development that in conjunction with Corona and the uncertainty of international travel is really enticing to lotto pic high schoolers. So I doubt there was much planning by Duke and Kentucky for this, especially since Jalen Green is the first one in this program.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 16, 2020 16:45:04 GMT -5
I wonder how this will impact schools in Georgetown's position. My instinct in this option is only chosen by max 5-10 kids a year, so it won't drastically change our plans considering we have not been competitive with those types of kids to begin with. That said, it will probably lead more blue bloods to look to the transfer market as an option, and could explain why teams like Duke and Kentucky were particularly active in the grad transfer market this year. It's possible blue bloods will start getting in the ears of talented juniors and seniors on teams like Georgetown's to fill the spots that would have otherwise gone to elite freshman talent. I think it can only help the schools that aren't blue bloods (blue bloods are around 7 schools plus 7 cheating schools like Arizona and LSU). More than likely I would imagine that Calipari will jump ship to the NBA or maybe even G League (if they are serious about becoming a real league) for a huge payout. Cal is always one step ahead of everyone else. Coach K will probably return to his old way, I don't think he was ever comfortable with the one and dones. Self will probably finally get fired at KU. Roy Williams probably retires being as fed up as it is. This is a huge opportunity for the have nots. Calipari signed an 86 million dollar contract with UK in June of 2019... Coach K's old ways were getting the top HS talent year in & year out, so nothing will change there... Same goes for Self and Roy barely recruited one & done kids to UNC... I do agree there'll be more chances for lower tier schools because kids will stay in school longer but if this dumb new transfer rule goes into effect that will lessen the chances some...
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Post by hoya73 on Apr 16, 2020 16:54:25 GMT -5
Even if the same schools get most of the top rated players who don't go to the G league, the college performance of 4 stars is probably less predictable than that of 5 stars. so, it will test whether Calipari, K, Self etc. are really better judges of 4 star talent or not.
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Apr 16, 2020 17:21:08 GMT -5
G league is a man's league. Outside of the physically ready kids like a Zion, it's probably better from a developmental perspective to play college ball and learn how to dominate. Look at Bazley the ex-Cuse commit, he lasted like 3 games because he was ruining any shot at getting drafted.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 16, 2020 17:31:30 GMT -5
G league is a man's league. Outside of the physically ready kids like a Zion, it's probably better from a developmental perspective to play college ball and learn how to dominate. Look at Bazley the ex-Cuse commit, he lasted like 3 games because he was ruining any shot at getting drafted. Did you read the article. They addressed that.
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Post by mdtd on Apr 16, 2020 17:31:47 GMT -5
G league is a man's league. Outside of the physically ready kids like a Zion, it's probably better from a developmental perspective to play college ball and learn how to dominate. Look at Bazley the ex-Cuse commit, he lasted like 3 games because he was ruining any shot at getting drafted. I think based on how this system is, this makes sense. I do generally agree that playing against these men who are playing for their basketball lives every day is not the ideal look, but this is different. This system doesn't have Green playing in real G-League games. I do think that helps and is the best thing for his career. NBA training, 500K, they are willing to spend money on his schooling and he gets to stay closer to home. It's a no brainer. Hopefully, this is the start to giving these kids NIL rights.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Apr 16, 2020 17:43:11 GMT -5
I am asking this seriously...does anyone watch the G League? I cant say I have personally. Maybe that changes down the road but if there is a high profile college bball game on versus a high profile G league game I am defintely watching the college game...
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 16, 2020 17:50:46 GMT -5
People really should read the article before posting their opinions of the G League.
This is more of a development program run by the G League rather than just a G League contract.
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Post by hoyainla on Apr 16, 2020 18:03:54 GMT -5
I am asking this seriously...does anyone watch the G League? I cant say I have personally. Maybe that changes down the road but if there is a high profile college bball game on versus a high profile G league game I am defintely watching the college game... This won't change viewing of G League games. I think fans will watch these 10-12 games though which will offset the cost associated. I could be wrong as this years class is a little lacking in name power and it seems there will only be a few guys for this year. Next years class I would imagine hits the 10 range that I guess they are hoping for. Once they get guys like Emoni and then Bronny it will be must watch TV. I have no idea why a player eligible for this wouldn't do it. If this doesn't work I think they get rid of 1 and done and since by then every team should have a G League team they can use it more as a minor leagues for drafted players.
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Post by rhw485 on Apr 17, 2020 6:24:03 GMT -5
My first thought is this might just really grind all recruiting until much later on. I can imagine Kentucky telling its backup targets to hold out committing elsewhere because if one of their main targets go pro then they'll have a spot for them.
I'm not sure how far that trickle down carries because we're talking about maybe 5 kids a year or something like that but I imagine the blue bloods are going to try and dangle a potential offer to hold more kids in limbo. I imagine the decision to go pro will always be a late cycle thing and not something the G League is going to commit to someone until after the HS season (although maybe that assumption is wrong).
For the record I think this makes a lot of sense for Jalen Green and good for him. Literally building him his own team in LA to get paid while still getting a college scholarship to use later while focusing solely on getting ready for pros. I imagine the games for this Select team get televised and are watched closely given their NBA draft implications.
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Post by calhoya on Apr 17, 2020 7:29:36 GMT -5
How (if)the NCAA responds to this latest challenge is going to be very important to the future of the college game. The reality is that the NCAA has clung to an archaic notion of the student athlete in how it treated these kids who are only in school to be trained for the professional leagues. While people can and have debated whether it is appropriate for schools to "pay" athletes for use of their likeness, what cannot be disputed is that college basketball has become a major part of most big conference school's financial fabric. How much would the loss of a elite and prestigious basketball program that generates millions hurt Kentucky, Duke, Syracuse or Kansas? Change is coming--with or without the participation of the NCAA.
Notions that this latest development will only impact the elite 5-10 high school players each year are shortsighted, I think. Players perceive themselves differently than fans. Minor league baseball is filled with young kids who realistically never have a chance of making the big leagues but still want to play and get paid, knowing that they can always defer college but cannot beat the march of Father Time with respect to their athletic careers. In recent years foreign basketball leagues have been the only "minor league" option to college. However, the rise of the G League as an alternative could become a game-changer.
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Post by centercourt400s on Apr 17, 2020 8:22:24 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 17, 2020 8:31:15 GMT -5
How (if)the NCAA responds to this latest challenge is going to be very important to the future of the college game. The reality is that the NCAA has clung to an archaic notion of the student athlete in how it treated these kids who are only in school to be trained for the professional leagues. While people can and have debated whether it is appropriate for schools to "pay" athletes for use of their likeness, what cannot be disputed is that college basketball has become a major part of most big conference school's financial fabric. How much would the loss of a elite and prestigious basketball program that generates millions hurt Kentucky, Duke, Syracuse or Kansas? Change is coming--with or without the participation of the NCAA. Notions that this latest development will only impact the elite 5-10 high school players each year are shortsighted, I think. Players perceive themselves differently than fans. Minor league baseball is filled with young kids who realistically never have a chance of making the big leagues but still want to play and get paid, knowing that they can always defer college but cannot beat the march of Father Time with respect to their athletic careers. In recent years foreign basketball leagues have been the only "minor league" option to college. However, the rise of the G League as an alternative could become a game-changer. Isn’t this what the NCAA has wanted for years? Also if I’m reading it correctly this is probably only a temporary solution until the NBA and the Players Union work out a deal on the age requirements...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 17, 2020 9:12:23 GMT -5
How (if)the NCAA responds to this latest challenge is going to be very important to the future of the college game. The reality is that the NCAA has clung to an archaic notion of the student athlete in how it treated these kids who are only in school to be trained for the professional leagues. While people can and have debated whether it is appropriate for schools to "pay" athletes for use of their likeness, what cannot be disputed is that college basketball has become a major part of most big conference school's financial fabric. How much would the loss of a elite and prestigious basketball program that generates millions hurt Kentucky, Duke, Syracuse or Kansas? Change is coming--with or without the participation of the NCAA. The idea that schools would be mortally wounded by not getting more revenues in basketball seems a stretch. Basketball at Duke is $21 million in spend in a $2.3 billion university budget. FWIW, Duke was a very much football school until the mid-1960's (Duke won six of the first 10 ACC titles from 1953 to 1962) when the school put restrictions on admission. The school didn't go out of business when football receded from the front pages, and neither would it with basketball.
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Post by justsaying on Apr 17, 2020 9:15:20 GMT -5
500K, G-League out bids the LSUs, Arizonas, Dukes, Carolinas, Oregons for this one.
There will be others how may will be interesting.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 17, 2020 10:26:46 GMT -5
It stinks if you are the last kid out and have to play in college for $0.
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