NCAA grants additional year of eligibility for some athletes

[nanman88]

Athletes who play spring sports and who therefore could not complete their season will apparently be given another year of eligibility. Winter sports are reportedly up for discussion.

I wonder if this could conceivably lead to some seniors getting another year?

247sports.com/Article/Coronavirus-NCAA-to-grant-additional-year-of-eligibility-Spring-winter-sports--144994142/

"The NCAA’s Council Coordination Committee has agreed to grant relief for the use of a season of competition for student-athletes who have participated in spring sports," Goodman tweeted. "Committee will also discuss issues for winter sport student-athletes."

Goodman simplified his report in a quick follow up.

"Players in spring sports get another year of eligibility," he wrote. "NCAA looking into what to do with those who played winter sports."

[FrazierFanatic]

Makes sense for spring sports since all or most of the season was lost.

Hard for winter sports. Only for kids whose seasons were still alive? What if you have 6 seniors and 6 signed recruits coming in?

[njhoya78]

FrazierFanatic is spot on. Scholarship limitations and the fact that all seniors had a complete regular season makes this problematic.

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I don't see any issues with the scholarships. Just let any team have as many additional scholarships - for 1 year - as they have returning players. Non-transferable, obviously.

15 or 16 scholarships isn't any better competitively than 13, so it's not like the rich can get much richer.

It'll cause some issues w/ incoming recruits, but theoretically that could happen anyway. Almost anybody could get recruited over late. And in this case, there's a built-in excuse for the coach.

[bostonfan]

Mar 13, 2020 15:04:11 GMT -5 @nychoya94 said:

I don't see any issues with the scholarships. Just let any team have as many additional scholarships - for 1 year - as they have returning players. Non-transferable, obviously.

15 or 16 scholarships isn't any better competitively than 13, so it's not like the rich can get much richer.

It'll cause some issues w/ incoming recruits, but theoretically that could happen anyway. Almost anybody could get recruited over late. And in this case, there's a built-in excuse for the coach.

I agree that giving a one year exemption for a few extra scholarships per school should not be a huge deal for the NCAA. There will be some additional costs for the universities where the kids decide to stay that extra year, because they will have a few extra scholarships being paid. Some kids may not take advantage of it anyways. Some of these kids will want to start their post college lives anyways, be in basketball or some other career, but it seems to be a reasonable accommodation for this very unique situation. 

I would think the NCAA will add some restrictions if they do agree to allow the extra year. I would assume the kids who take the extra year will probably not be able to use it as a grad transfer and will probably need to stay at the school they are currently at this season. The idea is to allow kids to complete their athletic careers at their schools so that seems like a reasonable restriction. They may also add some type of educational requirement that makes the kids continue to take classes.

I am not sure if the seniors from Georgetown would take advantage of this or not anyways. Yurt may want to leave to start getting paid to play basketball somewhere. Allen has been in college for at least 5 years already with his various transfers so he may want to move onto the next chapter in his life, and may consider playing in Europe. Same thing with Jagan, who seems to really enjoy his time at Georgetown and would probably love to represent them in a NCAA tournament, but might want to start the next chapter of his life. It will be an interesting decision for all of them if the option becomes a reality.

[FrazierFanatic]

The fact that these young people have played 3 full seasons plus 75% or more of a fourth would seem to argue against creating some chaos - even if just for one year - solely because they did not get to play in conference and NCAA tournaments.

[njhoyalawya]

Mar 13, 2020 15:04:11 GMT -5 @nychoya94 said:

I don't see any issues with the scholarships. Just let any team have as many additional scholarships - for 1 year - as they have returning players. Non-transferable, obviously.

15 or 16 scholarships isn't any better competitively than 13, so it's not like the rich can get much richer.

It'll cause some issues w/ incoming recruits, but theoretically that could happen anyway. Almost anybody could get recruited over late. And in this case, there's a built-in excuse for the coach.

If they do this, there will be a lot of recruits asking for releases from their NLIs once they realize that their playing time will be greatly limited based upon Seniors in their positions staying on.  It would get crazy.  Sometimes life is just not fair, and we need to move forward. As much as I would love to see Jagan and Terrell get extended eligibility, it just does not seem feasible when looking at the big picture.

[professorhoya]

Mar 13, 2020 16:10:04 GMT -5 FrazierFanatic said:

The fact that these young people have played 3 full seasons plus 75% or more of a fourth would seem to argue against creating some chaos - even if just for one year - solely because they did not get to play in conference and NCAA tournaments.

Let's face it March Madness is a whole nother season. So these kids have only played half a season at most and not even the best part.

[professorhoya]

Mar 13, 2020 16:53:41 GMT -5 njhoyalawya said:

Mar 13, 2020 15:04:11 GMT -5 @nychoya94 said:

I don't see any issues with the scholarships. Just let any team have as many additional scholarships - for 1 year - as they have returning players. Non-transferable, obviously.

15 or 16 scholarships isn't any better competitively than 13, so it's not like the rich can get much richer.

It'll cause some issues w/ incoming recruits, but theoretically that could happen anyway. Almost anybody could get recruited over late. And in this case, there's a built-in excuse for the coach.

If they do this, there will be a lot of recruits asking for releases from their NLIs once they realize that their playing time will be greatly limited based upon Seniors in their positions staying on.  It would get crazy.  Sometimes life is just not fair, and we need to move forward. As much as I would love to see Jagan and Terrell get extended eligibility, it just does not seem feasible when looking at the big picture.

It's happening. It's the fair thing to do. Those who can make the NBA will move on because the money outweighs the positive experience and memories.

[757hoya]

Mar 13, 2020 17:15:45 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Mar 13, 2020 16:53:41 GMT -5 njhoyalawya said:

If they do this, there will be a lot of recruits asking for releases from their NLIs once they realize that their playing time will be greatly limited based upon Seniors in their positions staying on.  It would get crazy.  Sometimes life is just not fair, and we need to move forward. As much as I would love to see Jagan and Terrell get extended eligibility, it just does not seem feasible when looking at the big picture.

It's happening. It's the fair thing to do. Those who can make the NBA will move on because the money outweighs the positive experience and memories.

What's really 'fair' in this instance though? Granting another full year of eligibility to seniors after missing ONLY conference tournaments and the 64 is overcompensating. And it presents a bit of a conundrum. Why just allow it for seniors? If ALL players are affected, shouldn't freshmen be reclassified as freshmen next year also? It just opens up a huge can of worms. I can understand spring sports because their seasons haven't really begun yet. But winter sports shouldn't really be in discussion. I understand the tournament is a huge deal but its absence shouldn't determine eligibility.

This is unprecedented territory so while I understand the need to try to compensate these student athletes, they DID get to play an entire college season. I feel that should suffice in this instance. Life will always throw you a curveball or a change-up. It isn't always 'fair' nor predictable. This is one of those moments young adults can learn from and adapt. But altering the rules doesn't seem like the plausible thing to do here.

[Bigs"R"Us]

I also feel bad for freshmen next year who find themselves behind four classes of players.

[njhoyalawya]

Mar 13, 2020 18:49:09 GMT -5 757hoya said:

Mar 13, 2020 17:15:45 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

It's happening. It's the fair thing to do. Those who can make the NBA will move on because the money outweighs the positive experience and memories.

What's really 'fair' in this instance though? Granting another full year of eligibility to seniors after missing ONLY conference tournaments and the 64 is overcompensating. And it presents a bit of a conundrum. Why just allow it for seniors? If ALL players are affected, shouldn't freshmen be reclassified as freshmen next year also? It just opens up a huge can of worms. I can understand spring sports because their seasons haven't really begun yet. But winter sports shouldn't really be in discussion. I understand the tournament is a huge deal but its absence shouldn't determine eligibility.

This is unprecedented territory so while I understand the need to try to compensate these student athletes, they DID get to play an entire college season. I feel that should suffice in this instance. Life will always throw you a curveball or a change-up. It isn't always 'fair' nor predictable. This is one of those moments young adults can learn from and adapt. But altering the rules doesn't seem like the plausible thing to do here.

Have to agree with these points, even if it means never see Jagan and Allen in a Hoya uniform again ....

[bamahoya11]

Exceptional times call for exceptional responses. Although I can see both sides, I lean toward just giving the seniors an extra year and living with some uneven rosters for a year before things (hopefully) return to normal. These kids worked so hard for months only to have their opportunities for post season play taken from them. It's not their fault they lost out on one of the biggest moments of their careers.

I just don't see any reason to think inside the box. I have never seen anything like it, and I have no objection to allowing any senior player who did not have the chance to complete that sporting season to return for another year.

[Bigs"R"Us]

What do seniors in non-scholarship or partial scholarship sports do? Are parents supposed to pay $50k so their kids can play another season?