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Post by Elvado on Jun 9, 2020 11:45:19 GMT -5
The WaPo needs a soul. Putting that aside, I am not saying get rid of masks and social distancing. However, when morons like Jim Kenney keep Philly businesses on lockdown while actively participating in mass social gatherings of which they approve, the message is at best mixed and at worst lost. Isn't up to the Governor of Pennsylvania to lift the COVID restrictions? Kenney, customarily dense and late, was last to shut down and now insists on being last to open up. When the whole Commonwealth went to Yellow, he insisted on restricting Philly businesses at the same time he joined mass demonstrations.
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Post by TC on Jun 9, 2020 12:57:44 GMT -5
WHO walks back their asymptomatic transmission being very rare comments :
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Post by Elvado on Jun 9, 2020 13:02:21 GMT -5
WHO walks back their asymptomatic transmission being very rare comments : The Post and WHO: pillars of credibility.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 9, 2020 13:56:03 GMT -5
WHO walks back their asymptomatic transmission being very rare comments : This is one of the (many) reasons pulling out of WHO is not a good idea - we abdicate the possibility to fix things like this from within. More on 'walking it back' -
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Post by TC on Jun 9, 2020 14:11:55 GMT -5
The Post and WHO: pillars of credibility. You literally used them and their declaration on asymptomatic carriers as the basis of your argument three posts ago. If you felt like they weren't credible, why are you throwing out arguments using bogus evidence?
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Post by TC on Jun 9, 2020 14:21:04 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Jun 9, 2020 14:25:27 GMT -5
Isn't up to the Governor of Pennsylvania to lift the COVID restrictions? Funny. I didn't see any reference to the Philly Mayor in the original post. Did I somehow miss the subtle nuance in it? I live in Philly. Hence my expansion to speak about the moron who runs the City.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 9, 2020 16:56:28 GMT -5
Also worthy of mention: there's a difference between the "urgent" need to get a haircut and the urgent need for equality.
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Post by Elvado on Jun 9, 2020 17:29:39 GMT -5
Also worthy of mention: there's a difference between the "urgent" need to get a haircut and the urgent need for equality. Unless of course you happen to be a barber... Or anyone else Jim has kept shuttered longer than the Governor requires... Tas—your heart is always In the right place but here in Philly, Kenney has filled his pants since day one of the Covid situation. He is a uniquely unqualified buffoon.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 9, 2020 20:14:37 GMT -5
Also worthy of mention: there's a difference between the "urgent" need to get a haircut and the urgent need for equality. Unless of course you happen to be a barber... Or anyone else Jim has kept shuttered longer than the Governor requires... Tas—your heart is always In the right place but here in Philly, Kenney has filled his pants since day one of the Covid situation. He is a uniquely unqualified buffoon. As mentioned earlier in the thread, there's stupidity all around. I call your Kenney with a de Blasio. I was only taking issue with the vague equation of the two things. I think what's become abundantly clear is that we have to look out for ourselves and one another because the leadership in many places is either poor or, at the federal level, non-existent. It's going to be up to us. I won't be going to get a haircut any time soon due to my interactions with people that are immuno-compromised or very high risk but I will be stopping by my barber shop to drop off payments as if I were going for my regular cuts. I wish "helping" in the other capacity referenced were so straightforward. Stay safe, Hoyas. Love and good health to all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 8:01:06 GMT -5
Also worthy of mention: there's a difference between the "urgent" need to get a haircut and the urgent need for equality. Unless of course you happen to be a barber... Or anyone else Jim has kept shuttered longer than the Governor requires... Tas—your heart is always In the right place but here in Philly, Kenney has filled his pants since day one of the Covid situation. He is a uniquely unqualified buffoon. "Unqualified buffoon" how ironic... Imagine if you held the President, who you voted to lead the nation, to the same standard you hold the *checks notes* Philly mayor.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 11, 2020 17:35:36 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Jun 11, 2020 17:53:00 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 11, 2020 18:22:56 GMT -5
Johns Hopkins reporting 114,000+ deaths as of today. But Trump cultists don't care.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 11, 2020 18:39:55 GMT -5
Johns Hopkins reporting 114,000+ deaths as of today. But Trump cultists don't care. Why would they? Trump doesn’t. Except in how much the numbers affect his re-election.
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Post by TC on Jun 12, 2020 14:29:13 GMT -5
This is pretty incredible, so much so that I'm a little skeptical - 140 clients seen, 0 infections because of masks.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 12, 2020 15:54:50 GMT -5
This is pretty incredible, so much so that I'm a little skeptical - 140 clients seen, 0 infections because of masks. Don't be skeptical, a friend of mine is the infectious disease physician who worked this non-outbreak up and is in the process of writing it up for publication, assisted by 2 medical students. He was as surprised (and pleased) as you are. The facts are the properly used PPE works.
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Post by TC on Jun 12, 2020 21:01:37 GMT -5
That's fantastic news - are they changing the findings on the protection offered by homemade masks at all? I was a little skeptical on 0-140 because I had read somewhere that they provide decent protection to spread by the wearer and some limited protection from spread by others - I would have thought that even with mutual wearing and combined protection there'd be some small percentage of spread and 140 clients is a decent sample size.
It sounds like there were other measures in place but even so 0 for 140 is pretty incredible.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 13, 2020 6:39:17 GMT -5
Homemade masks are very good for protection of OTHERS from YOU, the potentially pre-symptomatic person. Medical grade surgical masks are better at protecting YOU (studies show homemade cloth masks let more particles through from the outside) but both are better than nothing. Face shields are probably better than both as they also protect your eyes, another important site for entry of infection. In the Missouri non-outbreak, the keys were that both stylists always wore masks while working and the salon followed recommended hand sanitizing / disinfecting practice. I am not sure if they did or did not use hand held blow dryers (not recommended as they have potential to cause aerosols, but if they did it would indicate this is only important if the dryer is used on the infected person.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 13, 2020 6:39:32 GMT -5
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