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Post by SSHoya on Mar 4, 2021 19:22:12 GMT -5
Bad news. Hope he recovers. I tore my ACL and MCL in the 1980s and it took me a full 1.5 years to return to full duty in the Navy. How did that happen? As I use to say in bars, a very bad training accident when I was stationed in Newport, RI. The training was playing volleyball!! My company had just completed a 2 mile run and then were ordered to play volleyball against the staff. I went down in a heap after scoring on a spike! My knee is arthritic and I have reduced range of motion. Wore the old Joe Namath knee brace (Lennox Hill) when I played softball or pickup basketball.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 4, 2021 20:56:46 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 4, 2021 21:08:37 GMT -5
Feel bad for the kid. Feel bad for the league too as this means we’ll have to face him again next year. Not sure the injury alone would bring him back. It is not like this happened in November or December. Also I don't know exactly how long a recovery would take, but if it is close to a year, it would be a lot of work to maybe make it back for just a handful of games at the end of the season - and try to fit into a team that had played together without him for 30 games.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 4, 2021 21:54:41 GMT -5
Feel bad for the kid. Feel bad for the league too as this means we’ll have to face him again next year. Not sure the injury alone would bring him back. It is not like this happened in November or December. Also I don't know exactly how long a recovery would take, but if it is close to a year, it would be a lot of work to maybe make it back for just a handful of games at the end of the season - and try to fit into a team that had played together without him for 30 games. Definitely not a Doc but MCL injuries take much less time(2-3 months) to heal than ACL injuries.
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Post by hoya95 on Mar 4, 2021 22:40:46 GMT -5
Not sure if "indefinitely suspended" means McDermott will be back for the Big East Tournament, but it doesn't sound like it from this.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 4, 2021 23:07:14 GMT -5
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 5, 2021 7:13:20 GMT -5
A bit cynical, but it’s funny they suspended him AFTER they played Villanova in what was essentially a game for the conference title.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 5, 2021 8:05:38 GMT -5
I think McDermott is likely done. He's too much of a distraction now. Huss will probably be interim coach for the rest of the season and tournaments and then they will quietly let McDermott go over the off season. Then either retain Huss or bring in some else if someone appealing is available.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 5, 2021 8:16:53 GMT -5
I think McDermott is likely done. He's too much of a distraction now. Huss will probably be interim coach for the rest of the season and tournaments and then they will quietly let McDermott go over the off season. Then either retain Huss or bring in some else if someone appealing is available. I didn’t think this at first, but now it’s looking more and more possible.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 5, 2021 8:53:05 GMT -5
I think McDermott is likely done. He's too much of a distraction now. Huss will probably be interim coach for the rest of the season and tournaments and then they will quietly let McDermott go over the off season. Then either retain Huss or bring in some else if someone appealing is available. I didn’t think this at first, but now it’s looking more and more possible. I have a buddy who had a child go to Creighton as an athlete and is pretty tied into the athletics scene out there. He tells me that his current and former players have not said anything in support of their coach since this happened and the word on campus is that the current players would be Ok if he was gone. Sounds like there is probably more to the story than this one incident and saying something stupid. Surprising, because he always seemed like a decent guy who had a good relationship with his players. Just goes to show that it is impossible to really know what is going on inside a program from watching these teams on TV.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 5, 2021 9:50:07 GMT -5
They are a program that pre-McDermott had a track record for hiring coaches. I think when you were in the A-10 or Missouri Valley you had to be ready. I have some confidence they probably will find someone who fits just find if they go this route. They do have a top 10 recruiting class so maybe they are just buying time to let this shrink from the headlines. If there is more to it, then I suspect he is gone. The fact that assistant came out pretty quickly after leads me to believe there is more to it like others have said.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 5, 2021 10:19:46 GMT -5
They are a program that pre-McDermott had a track record for hiring coaches. I think when you were in the A-10 or Missouri Valley you had to be ready. I have some confidence they probably will find someone who fits just find if they go this route. They do have a top 10 recruiting class so maybe they are just buying time to let this shrink from the headlines. If there is more to it, then I suspect he is gone. The fact that assistant came out pretty quickly after leads me to believe there is more to it like others have said. I have also heard that some of the Creighton recruits scheduled to come next year are waffling on their commitments now. I guess they have a pretty highly rated kid from Arizona who has said he is waiting to see how the situation plays out before he decides anything. They seem to have a pretty strong infrastructure (facilities, fan base etc) for basketball at Creighton so I am sure they would be an attractive job, but losing a guys like McDermott, who has been a consistent winner and plays a style (run/gun and a lot of threes) that is attractive to recruits, would not be an easy thing to overcome.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 10:26:23 GMT -5
They are a program that pre-McDermott had a track record for hiring coaches. I think when you were in the A-10 or Missouri Valley you had to be ready. I have some confidence they probably will find someone who fits just find if they go this route. They do have a top 10 recruiting class so maybe they are just buying time to let this shrink from the headlines. If there is more to it, then I suspect he is gone. The fact that assistant came out pretty quickly after leads me to believe there is more to it like others have said. I have also heard that some of the Creighton recruits scheduled to come next year are waffling on their commitments now. I guess they have a pretty highly rated kid from Arizona who has said he is waiting to see how the situation plays out before he decides anything. They seem to have a pretty strong infrastructure (facilities, fan base etc) for basketball at Creighton so I am sure they would be an attractive job, but losing a guys like McDermott, who has been a consistent winner and plays a style (run/gun and a lot of threes) that is attractive to recruits, would not be an easy thing to overcome. Yeah - TyTy Washington (#30 overall). It'd be a shame if we were deprived of a TyTy/Kyky matchup next year.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 5, 2021 10:31:36 GMT -5
I didn’t think this at first, but now it’s looking more and more possible. I have a buddy who had a child go to Creighton as an athlete and is pretty tied into the athletics scene out there. He tells me that his current and former players have not said anything in support of their coach since this happened and the word on campus is that the current players would be Ok if he was gone. Sounds like there is probably more to the story than this one incident and saying something stupid. Surprising, because he always seemed like a decent guy who had a good relationship with his players. Just goes to show that it is impossible to really know what is going on inside a program from watching these teams on TV. There may be more to the story but I think just this alone is enough to cause friction because it is so outlandish and seemingly out of left field. I think everyone just needs time to digest what happened and the players view towards him may keep changing from one day to the other. Assuming he is a nice, decent guy, it is a really shocking, bizarre thing to happen to the kids, and it would make it almost worse if he is a nice guy and nobody saw it coming then if he were a Bobby Knight, Bob Huggins type obnoxious task master. But who knows.
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 5, 2021 11:06:20 GMT -5
Not sure if "indefinitely suspended" means McDermott will be back for the Big East Tournament, but it doesn't sound like it from this. Once again I may be alone in my view but, if there is nothing deeper than his plantation remark, are we going to destroy a man's name and career because of a single remark uttered? This is carrying things too far. In the passion of the moment are we not able to say things we wouldn't say if we had time to think about it? Isn't there such a thing as forgiveness? Having said that, if this is found to be a pattern, ignore what I just said.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 5, 2021 11:11:23 GMT -5
Not sure if "indefinitely suspended" means McDermott will be back for the Big East Tournament, but it doesn't sound like it from this. Once again I may be alone in my view but, if there is nothing deeper than his plantation remark, are we going to destroy a man's name and career because of a single remark uttered? This is carrying things too far. In the passion of the moment are we not able to say things we wouldn't say if we had time to think about it? Isn't there such a thing as forgiveness? Having said that, if this is found to be a pattern, ignore what I just said. THIS. The comment was obviously very offensive. I’ve never heard that type of saying have any of you? Just curious. Maybe it’s more common down south. But unless there’s some other sort of evidence that McDermott is a vicious racist in his spare time, I don’t see why a career should be ruined for making a dumb comment without thinking about what it actually meant. We have to end this culture of ending careers over stupid but forgivable mistakes.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 5, 2021 11:43:22 GMT -5
Not sure if "indefinitely suspended" means McDermott will be back for the Big East Tournament, but it doesn't sound like it from this. Once again I may be alone in my view but, if there is nothing deeper than his plantation remark, are we going to destroy a man's name and career because of a single remark uttered? This is carrying things too far. In the passion of the moment are we not able to say things we wouldn't say if we had time to think about it? Isn't there such a thing as forgiveness? Having said that, if this is found to be a pattern, ignore what I just said. It's always been like that though. Howward Cossell's MNF position and career ended for a racist comment he made about a Redskins receiver. And it didn't matter that this was an isolated incident and he was one of the greatest supporters of African American athletes during the civil rights era. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Garrett#The_Cosell_incident
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 5, 2021 11:48:21 GMT -5
They are a program that pre-McDermott had a track record for hiring coaches. I think when you were in the A-10 or Missouri Valley you had to be ready. I have some confidence they probably will find someone who fits just find if they go this route. They do have a top 10 recruiting class so maybe they are just buying time to let this shrink from the headlines. If there is more to it, then I suspect he is gone. The fact that assistant came out pretty quickly after leads me to believe there is more to it like others have said. I have also heard that some of the Creighton recruits scheduled to come next year are waffling on their commitments now. I guess they have a pretty highly rated kid from Arizona who has said he is waiting to see how the situation plays out before he decides anything. They seem to have a pretty strong infrastructure (facilities, fan base etc) for basketball at Creighton so I am sure they would be an attractive job, but losing a guys like McDermott, who has been a consistent winner and plays a style (run/gun and a lot of threes) that is attractive to recruits, would not be an easy thing to overcome. They have to move quickly to secure those recruits. However I'm not sure that any of the assistant coaches (promoted to headcoach) would have a big enough pull to overcome the negative factors (such as being out in Nebraska, and the incident). I feel like they need a big name, maybe a Midwesterner like Danny Manning in order to retain those recruits. Either that or bring in someone who can bring their own recruits with them from another program.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 5, 2021 11:56:19 GMT -5
Once again I may be alone in my view but, if there is nothing deeper than his plantation remark, are we going to destroy a man's name and career because of a single remark uttered? This is carrying things too far. In the passion of the moment are we not able to say things we wouldn't say if we had time to think about it? Isn't there such a thing as forgiveness? Having said that, if this is found to be a pattern, ignore what I just said. It's always been like that though. Howward Cossell's MNF position and career ended for a racist comment he made about a Redskins receiver. And it didn't matter that this was an isolated incident and he was one of the greatest supporters of African American athletes during the civil rights era. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Garrett#The_Cosell_incidentAl Campanis, Jimmy the Greek, Donald Trump (whoops! strike that one) 😁 But as pointed out earlier there has been no groundswell of support from any of his former players that may suggest that this is only an isolated incident. Time will tell.
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