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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Feb 22, 2020 23:39:52 GMT -5
Box Score: stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=278055&vislive=guActually outrebounded DePaul 39-37 but 14 turnovers and 4-18 from three were killer. As I said in an earlier post, Weems (and a few others) did a great job making sure Blair had no space at all on the perimeter. Something I hope to see again someday by Hoya defenders. Pickett tweaking a calf in what was his best offensive game this year was just another thing to add to this snakebitten season. If Yurtseven had this lift and lack of mobility tonight he was right to stay off the court last game. Pickett going down was the end tonight. I'm always very hard on him but we really needed him on both ends in the second half.
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Post by hoyainla on Feb 22, 2020 23:40:11 GMT -5
6/24 at DePaul last year, 12/22 at Butler. 8/17 at Butler 2 years ago and we won at DePaul 2 years ago. So Yes We are 3-3 in last 3 games vs Depaul. I said nothing about at Depaul. Try to keep up. Trying to point to point to a single stat completely misses the point by the way.
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Post by lda05816 on Feb 22, 2020 23:46:11 GMT -5
6/24 at DePaul last year, 12/22 at Butler. 8/17 at Butler 2 years ago and we won at DePaul 2 years ago. So Yes We are 3-3 in last 3 games vs Depaul. I said nothing about at Depaul. Try to keep up. Trying to point to point to a single stat completely misses the point by the way. It doesn’t miss the point. The 3pt line dictates a lot of college basketball games and when you shoot well from 3 you tend to win. Especially when you play bad defense, as all 3 Ewing-led teams have. This team struggles so much on defense that it almost has to shoot well from 3 to win.
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 22, 2020 23:48:52 GMT -5
This has been a very hard year. Many valiant efforts from a depleted roster.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Feb 22, 2020 23:53:06 GMT -5
Wish it weren't true, but turn out the lights. Won't even cap on the team when down. Valiant efforts in some situations, horrendous collapses in others. Maybe NIT, but so what.
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Post by s4hoyas on Feb 23, 2020 0:10:48 GMT -5
The difference is that they shot better...partially due to better defense, especially on Blair...he had very few wide open looks...Allen, Moseley and Pickett (though we lost him for much of the second half) played hard and well...Yurt was rusty but credit for being out there and giving effort... DePaul played well and more consistently than usual...just our luck when we have very little room for error...tough loss given NCAA hopes, but keep battlin'...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 23, 2020 0:13:51 GMT -5
I root for this team because they are undermanned and have gone through adversity, but this is bad basketball. We can’t compete in the league or nationally. The arena will be empty next season.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 23, 2020 0:17:06 GMT -5
We were sloppier with the ball than DePaul. DePaul.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Feb 23, 2020 1:09:15 GMT -5
I’m a Georgetown and Deontay Wilder fan ☹️
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Post by mdtd on Feb 23, 2020 1:25:07 GMT -5
Man, this one hurt. It really hurt. Metaphorically, I was stabbed in the heart. It just wasn't meant to be. I'm hurt. I'm hurt for the guys too. They just played defeated and were gassed. Omer gave it a shot and Pickett played another solid game. But, it just wasn't meant to be. It really hurts. Marquette typically slumps at this time, so hopefully, that continues? I mean, I'm just hurt. That's just how it went tonight. But the offense again wasn't there. No shot creation from anyone but a little from Pickett. This team needs a full-strength Mac. But, you won't be getting that. The injury bug and the fatigue on this team finally caught up. It just hurts. Hopefully, they can find a spark for the next game. It looks grim.
Keep fighting Hoyas. I'll very much still be watching.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 23, 2020 5:25:20 GMT -5
Blair had an off night, that was the difference. He’s been playing well. I get that Yurtseven is injured, but he just couldn’t get a bucket.
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Post by joey0403p on Feb 23, 2020 7:08:46 GMT -5
Trying to find the bright side
Pickett and Blair should be much better contributors next season now. Blair has bad game last night, but those two should be much better now next year I think
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 23, 2020 7:15:29 GMT -5
I just wished they showed more energy and better body language from the tip.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Feb 23, 2020 8:08:30 GMT -5
Blair had an off night, that was the difference. He’s been playing well. I get that Yurtseven is injured, but he just couldn’t get a bucket. It was probably the first time in his college career that Blair has been schemed against as he’s been a role player for three years. It was not an accident that he had an off night. Depaul caused it.
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 23, 2020 9:23:02 GMT -5
Hello darkness, my old friend: - Yurt7 was clearly hobbled and gutting it out. No lift and he wasn't even comfortable dribbling before trying to force up a quick shot. Then Pickett gets hurt in 2nd half, it's all just too much. Surprised Pickett went back in after icing leg? We have enough problems to worry about medical staff just some weird decisions between Mac, Yurt7, Pickett availability
- Moore is a fast PG, we know Yurt7 is hobbled, and we insist on hard hedge. Two easy buckets right off bat as Moore turns corner on Yurt7 so fast there is nobody there to help the roller. Wahab easily split on one for a lob. Failure to adapt.
- I can't remember the last time I've seen a true 3-2 zone. I've seen matchup zones that kinda look like a 3-2 depending on offense, and I've seen teams switch dribble handoffs so it kinda looks like a 3-2, but nothing quite like that. And from Ewing's perspective, I kinda get it. He knew he had 3 centers he could play and figured when trying to play 2 together they'd be hidden better in back line of 3-2 then on perimeter closing down shooters in 2-3. Unfortunately, it was a mess. Weems joins the list of career nights against us with target practice looks in 1st half. And Pickett actually isn't a great on-ball perimeter defender, so putting him at top of key is tough. And bigs were still exposed in space on baseline and not quick enough.
- That was DePaul's 2nd most points per possession in a big east game. The long term concern continues to be defense. I watched a lot of college hoops yesterday and sometimes it looks like we're playing a different sport on that end compared to the top teams
- You could tell Ewing was worried about energy level from jump and was very emotionally invested. He called two quick timeouts to try and wake team up. Putting in Robinson for Blair was clearly trying to send a message. But this team simply can't score when there's multiple non-threats on the court. And then he gets a silly tech in first half on a reach-in foul for no reason. We didn't lose by two but this team can't afford to give away points
- I can't believe we didn't box out on a free throw again. I hate when we go "inside the huddle" because it's always just Ewing talking about rebounding and you'd like to think there's more to coaching. I tell myself it's the generic thing he says when he knows the camera is on (although other coaches tend to give a little more than that), but maybe he has to keep saying it because we fail to do it key spots.
- Blair had a bad game and didn't adjust to being focus of defense. So many forced shots at end of shot clock as we were stagnant. Teams are aggressively cutting off passes and we can't make them pay by driving to the hoop. We don't attack teams who hard hedge us enough so there's nothing. And the one time Pickett is stepping up he gets hurt. Just can't catch a break.
It's so sad that Mosely's dream of making the NCAAs feels impossible. It shouldn't be a dream, it should be the expectation. Mosely is looking like the 2nd straight senior class to not go to the dance, with Pickett / Blair facing long odds to avoid being the 3rd. When does it end?
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 23, 2020 11:29:22 GMT -5
Blair had an off night, that was the difference. He’s been playing well. I get that Yurtseven is injured, but he just couldn’t get a bucket. It was probably the first time in his college career that Blair has been schemed against as he’s been a role player for three years. It was not an accident that he had an off night. Depaul caused it. Which is why as improved as he is, i would still start Mac who has better ability to create something from nothing. blueandgray
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 23, 2020 11:32:25 GMT -5
Hello darkness, my old friend: - Yurt7 was clearly hobbled and gutting it out. No lift and he wasn't even comfortable dribbling before trying to force up a quick shot. Then Pickett gets hurt in 2nd half, it's all just too much. Surprised Pickett went back in after icing leg? We have enough problems to worry about medical staff just some weird decisions between Mac, Yurt7, Pickett availability
- Moore is a fast PG, we know Yurt7 is hobbled, and we insist on hard hedge. Two easy buckets right off bat as Moore turns corner on Yurt7 so fast there is nobody there to help the roller. Wahab easily split on one for a lob. Failure to adapt.
- I can't remember the last time I've seen a true 3-2 zone. I've seen matchup zones that kinda look like a 3-2 depending on offense, and I've seen teams switch dribble handoffs so it kinda looks like a 3-2, but nothing quite like that. And from Ewing's perspective, I kinda get it. He knew he had 3 centers he could play and figured when trying to play 2 together they'd be hidden better in back line of 3-2 then on perimeter closing down shooters in 2-3. Unfortunately, it was a mess. Weems joins the list of career nights against us with target practice looks in 1st half. And Pickett actually isn't a great on-ball perimeter defender, so putting him at top of key is tough. And bigs were still exposed in space on baseline and not quick enough.
- That was DePaul's 2nd most points per possession in a big east game. The long term concern continues to be defense. I watched a lot of college hoops yesterday and sometimes it looks like we're playing a different sport on that end compared to the top teams
- You could tell Ewing was worried about energy level from jump and was very emotionally invested. He called two quick timeouts to try and wake team up. Putting in Robinson for Blair was clearly trying to send a message. But this team simply can't score when there's multiple non-threats on the court. And then he gets a silly tech in first half on a reach-in foul for no reason. We didn't lose by two but this team can't afford to give away points
- I can't believe we didn't box out on a free throw again. I hate when we go "inside the huddle" because it's always just Ewing talking about rebounding and you'd like to think there's more to coaching. I tell myself it's the generic thing he says when he knows the camera is on (although other coaches tend to give a little more than that), but maybe he has to keep saying it because we fail to do it key spots.
- Blair had a bad game and didn't adjust to being focus of defense. So many forced shots at end of shot clock as we were stagnant. Teams are aggressively cutting off passes and we can't make them pay by driving to the hoop. We don't attack teams who hard hedge us enough so there's nothing. And the one time Pickett is stepping up he gets hurt. Just can't catch a break.
It's so sad that Mosely's dream of making the NCAAs feels impossible. It shouldn't be a dream, it should be the expectation. Mosely is looking like the 2nd straight senior class to not go to the dance, with Pickett / Blair facing long odds to avoid being the 3rd. When does it end?
Good analysis. I was a bit surprised when Omer and Jagan were the back of the 3-2 for a few possessions.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 23, 2020 14:48:26 GMT -5
Went to the Sacramento game watch. At game watch you actually don't see much of the game (talking to fellow alums), but it was close until the final minutes, which is when we started to watch. It was the disappointment as we should have beaten DePaul, but our last game watch was the Syracuse game, so we are 1-1 on game watches.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 24, 2020 20:41:05 GMT -5
One thing we all agreed on following the transfers was that we couldn't afford any injuries. You didn't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. So what happens? How many uninjured scholarship players (not including Wilson) do we now have?
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Post by drquigley on Feb 24, 2020 22:04:46 GMT -5
One thing we all agreed on following the transfers was that we couldn't afford any injuries. You didn't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. So what happens? How many uninjured scholarship players (not including Wilson) do we now have? Assuming Picket's was just a bruise we have 6? Allen, Mosely, Blair, Pickett, Wahab, Igggy.
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