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Post by BeantownHoya on Dec 14, 2019 17:35:00 GMT -5
Just finished listening to coach Jim Boeheim indictment of Akinjo and supporting coach Ewing. 1984 do you have a link for that by any chance?
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Dec 14, 2019 17:49:53 GMT -5
Just finished listening to coach Jim Boeheim indictment of Akinjo and supporting coach Ewing. 1984 do you have a link for that by any chance?
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 14, 2019 17:50:24 GMT -5
Just finished listening to coach Jim Boeheim indictment of Akinjo and supporting coach Ewing. I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view...
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Post by bearsandbulls on Dec 14, 2019 18:06:08 GMT -5
Just finished listening to coach Jim Boeheim indictment of Akinjo and supporting coach Ewing. I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view... Just one man's opinion. A pretty bright one at that. With all that has gone on, he may also know behind the scenes the back and forth. I sense friendship in the profession with Patrick. He may feel PE has been dealt a lot of bad press with this whole extravaganza and is covering his back a bit. Telling it like he sees it as a coach. I am sure "Uncle" would disagree.
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Post by hoyazeke on Dec 14, 2019 18:15:30 GMT -5
Just finished listening to coach Jim Boeheim indictment of Akinjo and supporting coach Ewing. I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view... Boeheim was wrong to address the situation at all....besides we only lost 3 games and no way was the Duke loss on Akinjo...I put the Greensboro loss on JA but even as poorly as he played for a half if we get a foul on Yurt7's dunk attempt we probably win...
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 14, 2019 18:21:21 GMT -5
I know that the situation around the program is bad, but I never thought we’d sink to the level of calling Boeheim a “pretty bright” man around here. Is nothing sacred?
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 14, 2019 18:28:23 GMT -5
I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view... Just one man's opinion. A pretty bright one at that. With all that has gone on, he may also know behind the scenes the back and forth. I sense friendship in the profession with Patrick. He may feel PE has been dealt a lot of bad press with this whole extravaganza and is covering his back a bit. Telling it like he sees it as a coach. I am sure "Uncle" would disagree. As much as I don't like him because of the rivalry, Coach Jimmy B. is a hall of fame coach and has earned the right to say whatever he wants. I would bet he's not the only Coach thinking that about Akinjo. I also bet a lot coaches are reaching out to Coach Ewing to express those same thoughts. This is the 3rd straight opposing coach to say that the better PG play by Allen is the reason this team is playing so much better. Coach Boheim just said it in a much more direct manner...
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 14, 2019 18:28:39 GMT -5
I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view... Just one man's opinion. A pretty bright one at that. With all that has gone on, he may also know behind the scenes the back and forth. I sense friendship in the profession with Patrick. He may feel PE has been dealt a lot of bad press with this whole extravaganza and is covering his back a bit. Telling it like he sees it as a coach. I am sure "Uncle" would disagree. He easily could have done all that without the pointed comments about Akinjo... Seeing that PE has taken the high road, I think Boeheim should have also...
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 14, 2019 18:33:16 GMT -5
I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view... Boeheim was wrong to address the situation at all....besides we only lost 3 games and no way was the Duke loss on Akinjo...I put the Greensboro loss on JA but even as poorly as he played for a half if we get a foul on Yurt7's dunk attempt we probably win... I think Boheim was suggesting the UNC-G & Penn state Games as the two games. As much as it hurts me to say this about anyone from Syracuse, Coach Boheim is right. Wow...that felt discusting. I need to be baithed in holy water now...
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 14, 2019 18:34:49 GMT -5
Boeheim was wrong to address the situation at all....besides we only lost 3 games and no way was the Duke loss on Akinjo...I put the Greensboro loss on JA but even as poorly as he played for a half if we get a foul on Yurt7's dunk attempt we probably win... I think Boheim was suggesting the UNC-G & Penn state Games as the two games. As much as it hurts me to say this about anyone from Syracuse, Coach Boheim is right. Wow...that felt discusting. I need to be baithed in holy water now... You’d put the Penn State loss solely on Akinjo?
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 14, 2019 18:39:01 GMT -5
Interesting to read some of these comments about Boeheim being outspoken, given that the coach who made GU basketball and the BE was about as outspoken as anyone.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 14, 2019 18:41:41 GMT -5
Just one man's opinion. A pretty bright one at that. With all that has gone on, he may also know behind the scenes the back and forth. I sense friendship in the profession with Patrick. He may feel PE has been dealt a lot of bad press with this whole extravaganza and is covering his back a bit. Telling it like he sees it as a coach. I am sure "Uncle" would disagree. He easily could have done all that without the pointed comments about Akinjo... Seeing that PE has taken the high road, I think Boeheim should have also... Why? Akinjo doesn't play for Syracuse and it's obvious Coach Boheim isn't recruiting him. He didn't use Akinjo's name even though it was quite obvious who he was talking about. You also have Akinjo's family throwing shots at Coach Ewing on social media disparaging his reputation and much worse. Coach Ewing can't/won't go back at Akinjo's people. If he could I'm sure we would learn a lot and it's possible some of Akinjo's opportunities would dry up. Coaching/Basketball is a fraternity and even through the bitter rivalry, coach Boheim isn't going to just leave a fellow coach in Ewing out here defenseless taking shots...
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Post by SDHoya on Dec 14, 2019 18:44:21 GMT -5
I think Boheim was suggesting the UNC-G & Penn state Games as the two games. As much as it hurts me to say this about anyone from Syracuse, Coach Boheim is right. Wow...that felt discusting. I need to be baithed in holy water now... You’d put the Penn State loss solely on Akinjo? Nothing is solely on Akinjo (save for maybe a few drives into the wilderness towards the end of the UNCG game). But it is telling that while Akinjo was here, we all lamented the utter lack of ball movement from everyone, and have generally praised the ball movement since. Maybe it was on Ewing to tell Akinjo and the rest of the team that static, predictable play doesn't win games. But clearly in Akinjo's absence the message is now getting through to those remaining.
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Post by swhoya on Dec 14, 2019 18:44:35 GMT -5
Just one man's opinion. A pretty bright one at that. With all that has gone on, he may also know behind the scenes the back and forth. I sense friendship in the profession with Patrick. He may feel PE has been dealt a lot of bad press with this whole extravaganza and is covering his back a bit. Telling it like he sees it as a coach. I am sure "Uncle" would disagree. He easily could have done all that without the pointed comments about Akinjo... Seeing that PE has taken the high road, I think Boeheim should have also... Exactly. Boeheim may have been right. But doesn’t mean he’s right for saying it. He’s a hall of fame coach (vomit). He’s done this a long time and seen thousands and thousands of kids. He didn’t need to make comments about this one particular kid. Pat has his own accomplishments, whatever may happen this year, and he doesn’t need Boeheim’s support like that. It was an unnecessary cheap shot.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 14, 2019 18:47:50 GMT -5
I think Boheim was suggesting the UNC-G & Penn state Games as the two games. As much as it hurts me to say this about anyone from Syracuse, Coach Boheim is right. Wow...that felt discusting. I need to be baithed in holy water now... You’d put the Penn State loss solely on Akinjo? Nobody truly loses a game by themselves in basketball. It's a team sport. That said Akinjo was the mystro leading the offense and it's hard not to think he played a large part in the defeat especially after the last three games. I've said it multiple times on here, I thought Akinjo had only played one good game this season. That was Texas. Most on here thought he played poorly. The Texas game was the closest he came to playing like Allen is playing now and was the best performance for the Hoyas team while Akinjo was still on the roster.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Dec 14, 2019 18:49:50 GMT -5
Just finished listening to coach Jim Boeheim indictment of Akinjo and supporting coach Ewing. I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view... Nothing wrong with calling it like you see it if you ask me. Personally, I appreciate an honest, direct answer like that instead of being PC or sugar coating stuff. James opened himself up for criticism as soon as he decided to transfer. The thing is, he and his uncle expected the team to implode without James and Josh, not thrive. If we were 0-3 right now without James, as I'm sure he and Unc were predicting, all these opposing coaches, players and fans would be saying how hard it is for Georgetown to win without their star PG and one of their other best players. James and the uncle would of definitely reveled in that, but things haven't gone as planned so now instead of everyone saying how much worse we are without him, it's how much better we are without him. He made his bed, he has to lie in it.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 14, 2019 18:57:05 GMT -5
I thought Boeheim was out of line with these comments, it’s not right for a coach to beat up on players who they haven’t ever coached... I was never the biggest Akinjo fan but to put losses solely on him isn’t right in my view... Boeheim was wrong to address the situation at all....besides we only lost 3 games and no way was the Duke loss on Akinjo...I put the Greensboro loss on JA but even as poorly as he played for a half if we get a foul on Yurt7's dunk attempt we probably win... Man, that one play prevents 8-2 and an almost certain Top 25 ranking.
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Post by hoyazeke on Dec 14, 2019 19:07:25 GMT -5
You’d put the Penn State loss solely on Akinjo? Nobody truly loses a game by themselves in basketball. It's a team sport. That said Akinjo was the mystro leading the offense and it's hard not to think he played a large part in the defeat especially after the last three games. I've said it multiple times on here, I thought Akinjo had only played one good game this season. That was Texas. Most on here thought he played poorly. The Texas game was the closest he came to playing like Allen is playing now and was the best performance for the Hoyas team while Akinjo was still on the roster. So even though the PSU game was not particularly close, if our shooters were in a better rhythm it could have been. I have said from October to now that Blair is our best shooter but for 7 games he couldn't hit the side of a barn. The next game after JA leaves he hits a few and then in the SMU game he couldn't miss. As someone who considers himself to be a decent shooter I can attest that your teammates matter. If you don't like each other it can be hard for most to play well. Even if the hostility isn't directly aimed at you.....walking on eggshells causes issues for all people involved.......
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 14, 2019 19:10:06 GMT -5
Interesting to read some of these comments about Boeheim being outspoken, given that the coach who made GU basketball and the BE was about as outspoken as anyone. I don’t remember Pops ever trashing a player he never coached, to me that’s the big difference...
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Post by sleepy on Dec 14, 2019 19:15:32 GMT -5
Interesting to read some of these comments about Boeheim being outspoken, given that the coach who made GU basketball and the BE was about as outspoken as anyone. I don’t remember Pops ever trashing a player he never coached, to me that’s the big difference... So it’s ok to trash players you did coach? Honestly y’all are to sensitive. He didn’t say anything about James as a person, just gave harsh criticism of him as a player. Not sure why that’s not fair. Even if he spoke that candidly about any of our current players I wouldn’t care. It’s just basketball.
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