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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 4, 2019 15:14:59 GMT -5
Letting the situation speak for itself often is better than adopting any official stance, and I agree with that strategy here.
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on Dec 4, 2019 16:05:44 GMT -5
The Akinjo camp is putting stuff out about Pat on social media that rivals anything we saw in the 80s. No love for this guy, he has the wrong people around him and is destined to fail wherever he goes if he can’t figure that out.
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robbyt
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Post by robbyt on Dec 4, 2019 16:11:02 GMT -5
The Akinjo camp is putting stuff out about Pat on social media that rivals anything we saw in the 80s. No love for this guy, he has the wrong people around him and is destined to fail wherever he goes if he can’t figure that out. "stuff about Pat" such as what?
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Post by robbyt on Dec 4, 2019 16:14:00 GMT -5
Playing college basketball is a privilege, not a right. Innocent until proven guilty is an exacting legal standard that we have because putting someone in prison must only be done when there is no reasonable doubt that the convict committed the crime. We're not talking about putting anyone in prison. We're talking about suspending basketball players who a JUDGE has determined have a substantial likelihood of losing at trial, and who a judge entered a restraining order against, until their legal proceedings play out. Needing a criminal conviction before taking action is the absolute lowest standard anyone can possibly hold. Georgetown says they hold themselves to a higher standard. Not to make light of the situation, but you are an uniformed buffoon who -- like the rest of us -- has very limited facts on what is going on. I could print your last 3 or 4 posts and likely get a TRO on you for assaulting and insulting the vast majority of posters and readers on here. All the judge had was a police report -- only informed by the alleged victim -- and a form -- filled out by the alleged victim. What planet are you from where you think it's a certainty that these allegations are true? Where you there? To this point we don't know if this alleged victim was a good friend of theirs or some random person, what their relationship was etc., were they joking around etc. etc. Sure they probably did something wrong, but just how bad it was can only be known in context. Not defending them entirely, just saying allegations look horrible when they're phrased as vague generalities bc we tend to fill in the unknowns with the worst case scenario.
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Post by doublehoya0310 on Dec 4, 2019 16:18:49 GMT -5
The Akinjo camp is putting stuff out about Pat on social media that rivals anything we saw in the 80s. No love for this guy, he has the wrong people around him and is destined to fail wherever he goes if he can’t figure that out. "stuff about Pat" such as what? I've seen them respond here and there on twitter, usually around how Pat doesn't know how to coach. Maybe I missed some of the uglier things given that's implied. It is what it is. They're fiercely loyal to James and like most of these situations, have an overinflated view of what he can do. You just shake your head and move on, as with most any other social media situation. Responding adds no value. You know Pat doesn't care.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 4, 2019 16:22:47 GMT -5
The Akinjo camp is putting stuff out about Pat on social media that rivals anything we saw in the 80s. No love for this guy, he has the wrong people around him and is destined to fail wherever he goes if he can’t figure that out. I'm not inclined to put the burden on a kid who turned 19 about a week ago to "figure it out." Is he getting bad advice? Seems likely. Does that affect how I feel about James personally? Unlikely.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 4, 2019 16:25:38 GMT -5
Yeah it really feels like the uncle was the issue in this situation. He happened to be in town this past week. Attended Saturdays game. Went to the Ravens/49ers game on Sunday. Allegedly was at MSG for the Empire event the week before. From my POV, Akinjo's body language was awful on Saturday vs UNC-G. Really have to wonder how involved his uncle was in the days before and in making the Final decision to transfer?
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 4, 2019 16:26:30 GMT -5
The Akinjo camp is putting stuff out about Pat on social media that rivals anything we saw in the 80s. No love for this guy, he has the wrong people around him and is destined to fail wherever he goes if he can’t figure that out. I'm not inclined to put the burden on a kid who turned 18 about a week ago to "figure it out." Is he getting bad advice? Seems likely. Does that affect how I feel about James personally? Unlikely. High level basketball is a very, very small world. You should think long and hard before you burn bridges. It's a mistake that far too many people make when passions are heated.
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Post by HoyaDr on Dec 4, 2019 16:31:34 GMT -5
The Akinjo camp is putting stuff out about Pat on social media that rivals anything we saw in the 80s. No love for this guy, he has the wrong people around him and is destined to fail wherever he goes if he can’t figure that out. I'm not inclined to put the burden on a kid who turned 18 about a week ago to "figure it out." Is he getting bad advice? Seems likely. Does that affect how I feel about James personally? Unlikely. Why not? I made the decision to become a physician when I was 18,studief like crazy at Georgetown (I could have transferred to a school with a stronger premed curriculum) and sacrificed my 20s to train to become one. If I quit every time an attending physician yelled at me or told me I was and idiot then I wouldn't have made it very far. I know becoming a physician and trying to become a pro ball player is different but the work ethic and attitude needed to get there is not. Med students and residents with poor attitudes don't get very far trust me.
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 4, 2019 16:36:46 GMT -5
I'm not inclined to put the burden on a kid who turned 18 about a week ago to "figure it out." Is he getting bad advice? Seems likely. Does that affect how I feel about James personally? Unlikely. Why not? I made the decision to become a physician when I was 18,studief like crazy at Georgetown (I could have transferred to a school with a stronger premed curriculum) and sacrificed my 20s to train to become one. If I quit every time an attending physician yelled at me or told me I was and idiot then I wouldn't have made it very far. I know becoming a physician and trying to become a pro ball player is different but the work ethic and attitude needed to get there is not. Med students and residents with poor attitudes don't get very far trust me. And I made the decision to attend the Foreign Service School at 17 to find myself on a course that influenced the rest of my life. I'm not here to elicit personal details, but perhaps you and I should compare our personal situations with that of Akinjo. That analogy strikes me as quite weak.
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 4, 2019 16:39:59 GMT -5
I'm not inclined to put the burden on a kid who turned 18 about a week ago to "figure it out." Is he getting bad advice? Seems likely. Does that affect how I feel about James personally? Unlikely. Why not? I made the decision to become a physician when I was 18,studief like crazy at Georgetown (I could have transferred to a school with a stronger premed curriculum) and sacrificed my 20s to train to become one. If I quit every time an attending physician yelled at me or told me I was and idiot then I wouldn't have made it very far. I know becoming a physician and trying to become a pro ball player is different but the work ethic and attitude needed to get there is not. Med students and residents with poor attitudes don't get very far trust me. Just imagine coming up in time and industry where your aunt and uncle could publicly berate your supervisors as part of a churning social media ocean. It must be very hard for college athletes in this environment. And it seems like some of Akinjo’s people are out of line. But I agree some of the responsibility falls on him. Even at 18/19, a young man could develop a sense of long-term commitment and planning even in the face of bad advice. The fact that he maybe hasn’t isn’t a damning statement about his entire life and character, but it does show that, as of now, he’s not a great decision maker.
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Post by doublehoya0310 on Dec 4, 2019 16:40:11 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 4, 2019 16:47:37 GMT -5
You'all wanted Mac. Here's the keys to the HOUSE! You all wanted him, you gotta him!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 4, 2019 16:51:14 GMT -5
I'm not inclined to put the burden on a kid who turned 18 about a week ago to "figure it out." Is he getting bad advice? Seems likely. Does that affect how I feel about James personally? Unlikely. Why not? I made the decision to become a physician when I was 18,studief like crazy at Georgetown (I could have transferred to a school with a stronger premed curriculum) and sacrificed my 20s to train to become one. If I quit every time an attending physician yelled at me or told me I was and idiot then I wouldn't have made it very far. I know becoming a physician and trying to become a pro ball player is different but the work ethic and attitude needed to get there is not. Med students and residents with poor attitudes don't get very far trust me. You're still an idiot!!😉 Just helping you wax nostalgic about your younger years.
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HoyaDr
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Post by HoyaDr on Dec 4, 2019 16:54:57 GMT -5
Why not? I made the decision to become a physician when I was 18,studief like crazy at Georgetown (I could have transferred to a school with a stronger premed curriculum) and sacrificed my 20s to train to become one. If I quit every time an attending physician yelled at me or told me I was and idiot then I wouldn't have made it very far. I know becoming a physician and trying to become a pro ball player is different but the work ethic and attitude needed to get there is not. Med students and residents with poor attitudes don't get very far trust me. And I made the decision to attend the Foreign Service School at 17 to find myself on a course that influenced the rest of my life. I'm not here to elicit personal details, but perhaps you and I should compare our personal situations with that of Akinjo. That analogy strikes me as quite weak. I don't think it's weak at all. The kid folded in the face of adversity and is running to find a program that will coddle him whole giving him the green light to do whatever he wants including ignoring coaching. If I thought as a student or resident that I was better than my attending and ignored his directions I would be publicly berated in front of my peers. I thought about quitting multiple times but that's the easy way out. I could have gone to a hospital where they don't give a crap about what a student or resident learns but I chose to go places that were tough but gave me the best chance to excel. James is doing the opposite. I think calling the analogy weak is quite stubborn and short sighted.
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Post by wolveribe on Dec 4, 2019 16:55:02 GMT -5
You'all wanted Mac. Here's the keys to the HOUSE! You all wanted him, you gotta him! We all wanted Mac and Akinjo.
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Post by Elvado on Dec 4, 2019 16:55:04 GMT -5
The player in question is no longer any of our concern.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Dec 4, 2019 16:55:32 GMT -5
Don't think there are too many people who didn't want to have a focused, dedicated James on the team just so Mac could get more minutes.
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Post by turbohoya on Dec 4, 2019 16:56:19 GMT -5
You'all wanted Mac. Here's the keys to the HOUSE! You all wanted him, you gotta him! this BS I won't stand for - wanting Mac to do well doesn't mean James had to do poorly. James was the best PG this program had seen in a very long time and the unanimous better player coming in, and still the better player today. I have not seen a single comment from a fan saying we need more Mac and less James - or James is ruining Mac's development... so please take this crap elsewhere... I can tell you one player is still playing for my favorite team and another chose to leave (and I working on the assumption it was his choice) his team mid-semester... GO HOYAS and anyone who wears the blue and gray with pride and honors the uniform on and off the court.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 16:56:38 GMT -5
You'all wanted Mac. Here's the keys to the HOUSE! You all wanted him, you gotta him! We all wanted Mac and Akinjo. Professor didn't make it clear, but he's quoting his Uncle.
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