Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 6, 2022 9:44:58 GMT -5
He’s not going to get the same opportunity elsewhere, unless he takes a step down. We gave him too many minutes.
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78HOYA78
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Apr 6, 2022 10:07:53 GMT -5
With all of these transfers - and basketball is a team sport and at this level you need continuity in the program. Unless we bring in some veterans we are in trouble with the level of competition in the Big East. We used to be able to count on close to 10 wins against cupcakes but this is not the case anymore. We have to face the facts - we are a mid-level program and no conference has a problem scheduling us on the calendar and probably relishes it. Dante can be a spark to any program because he is fearless and to me has a lot of quickness.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Apr 6, 2022 10:13:02 GMT -5
I'm more with calhoya on this one. If this rumor is true Dante won't transfer up but they're plenty of schools around our level that will take him in a heart beat. Dante issues were more feeling that he had to do too much for our team. I think when he was surrounded by more talent he played better. I also doubt that Ewing is running him off. He probably doesn't expect Aminu back and doesn't want to live through another year like last year. It the rumor is true it's disappointing because I always viewed Dante as the type to want ownership over the team. This would tell me he is a lot like Ewing in not taking any blame for why things were so bad last season. Kid should be grinding but instead he is running... It is really hard to blame him for leaving is this is true. He is part of a team where there is a mass exodus, friends are leaving and he is completely unsure of what the team will look like next year. As of right now the returning scholarship players are Motumbo, Riley, Holloway, Bristol and Wilson (although that rumor mill is swirling too). He is probably looking for a stable situation where he is certain he can develop more. He didn't construct the roster so I don't see how he has to take any blame for the lack of a team around him. I would not "blame" someone for doing something that they have every right to do. Still, it's difficult to see that Dante should have any complaint with the treatment he's received here--at least from an on court perspective. As far as the departures go, we are losing teammates, so he'll leave for somewhere where he has all new teammates? I wish him well, but, unless he's been told "we see you as a backup next year," a transfer doesn't make a great deal of sense to me.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Apr 6, 2022 10:17:38 GMT -5
Given how much of a disaster this season was, I wasn’t particularly attached to any of the players from a talent perspective, but there were two who I absolutely did not want to lose: Mutombo (would be embarrassing to have Dikembe’s kid leave the program) and Harris (he won the BET MOP, and as much as Ewing’s tenure has been a failure, you can’t take that hardware away—I wanted to see our MOP winner stay four years and graduate).
N.B., it never occurred to me that we’d lose any rising seniors to the Portal. Barring news that Big Tim is graduating early, that one stings, too.
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Post by hoyaguy on Apr 6, 2022 10:57:59 GMT -5
Shocks me a bit but idrc as he seemed like he was getting frustrated and Ewing let him do whatever he wanted which was not what we needed especially at the expense of Beard.
And I think he can get better and should’ve under a different coach and to be fair based on last years kenpom there’s like a 50% chance he transfers to a better team as there were what 174 ahead of us even not in a P6 so who knows
Like we are so low that Fordham would be a major upgrade just pulling a name out of the hat but idk their pg situation
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 6, 2022 11:19:02 GMT -5
I'll wait to see an official announcement but I'm not too distraught about this (depending on who we get as a replacement). A team that goes 0-20 needs an overhaul and it likely would have happened if Pat was replaced. I love Dante's heart and think he's closer to the player he was in BET then this last year but we need upgrades (and development) across the board.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 6, 2022 11:32:25 GMT -5
In my humble opinion, losing Dante would be disastrous.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 6, 2022 13:45:15 GMT -5
I am really bummed if this comes to fruition. Yes, Dante didn’t have a great year….but love the heart he plays with and everything he stands forS. This sucks!!
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 6, 2022 15:25:05 GMT -5
It is really hard to blame him for leaving is this is true. He is part of a team where there is a mass exodus, friends are leaving and he is completely unsure of what the team will look like next year. As of right now the returning scholarship players are Motumbo, Riley, Holloway, Bristol and Wilson (although that rumor mill is swirling too). He is probably looking for a stable situation where he is certain he can develop more. He didn't construct the roster so I don't see how he has to take any blame for the lack of a team around him. I would not "blame" someone for doing something that they have every right to do. Still, it's difficult to see that Dante should have any complaint with the treatment he's received here--at least from an on court perspective. As far as the departures go, we are losing teammates, so he'll leave for somewhere where he has all new teammates? I wish him well, but, unless he's been told "we see you as a backup next year," a transfer doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. This is not what I meant by he should take blame. I meant he should take some blame for how he played as the PG. He didn't shoot well, he didn't create for teammates and his D regressed. He needs to own that and work on getting better so the team can get better. Depending on who comes back Dante won't find a better situation to showcase his skills. If I was Dante I wouldn't make a decision until Aminu decides to stay in the draft. At worse he may have to go down a level for a year by delaying. But GTown with Aminu, Jordan and Wayne is a better situation than being a backup on a similar level team or going down a level.
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 6, 2022 15:41:16 GMT -5
I am really bummed if this comes to fruition. Yes, Dante didn’t have a great year….but love the heart he plays with and everything he stands forS. This sucks!! I would be a little surprised and a little disappointed if Dante decides to transfer. I do understand that he was probably very disappointed in how last year turned out both for the team and him personally, but I don't think the staff or program could have given him anymore opportunity than they did, he played a huge amount of minutes and was given as much freedom as I can remember any player having recently, even when he was having tough games. In that sense the program was very committed to him as a player and a leader on the team and it would be disappointing to see him leave. I do understand that players get frustrated when they are not winning, and they should be that way, but I would hope the staff talked to him and laid out a plan to improve the team for the upcoming year. If that plan did not include him as a central part of that improved team, then I guess I understand him moving on but I got the sense that Ewing always really liked Dante as a player and a competitor. I hope the young man stays a Hoya
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Post by beenaround on Apr 6, 2022 15:54:05 GMT -5
I had just decided to try and focus on the few positives regarding the program, ie fresh new assistants with recruiting chops, and hopefully a few good transfers. I had promised myself not to bash PE or the admin for keeping him…after all life’s too short. But when the coaches FAVORITE guys keep transferring , it’s no longer “bad luck” or the landscape of college Bball. Finger has to again point at PE!!
Maybe I can start my resolution of positivity tomorrow.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 6, 2022 17:15:33 GMT -5
Moderator note: Board rules prohibit speculating about status of current players. Hearsay that someone is transferring falls under that. That's enough handwringing posts on this subject. Have some respect for the student athlete and wait until he makes some announcement (if indeed he plans to).
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 8, 2022 10:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 23, 2022 18:15:57 GMT -5
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Apr 23, 2022 18:48:21 GMT -5
Saw it’s deleted. What did it say?
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Post by thedragon on Apr 23, 2022 18:49:09 GMT -5
Saw it’s deleted. What did it say? It was a peace sign. Then he deleted his account. Could mean he was peacing out of Twitter. Or....
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Post by BeantownHoya on Apr 23, 2022 18:51:45 GMT -5
Saw it’s deleted. What did it say? I think it was literally just a peace sign...I don't know like "peace out" he's gone? I am 45 year old dude...do kids still say peace out?
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Post by thedragon on Apr 23, 2022 18:54:36 GMT -5
Saw it’s deleted. What did it say? I think it was literally just a peace sign...I don't know like "peace out" he's gone? I am 45 year old dude...do kids still say peace out? Peace sign means "I'm out". I'm out from where is anyone's guess.
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Post by wponds on Apr 23, 2022 18:57:01 GMT -5
Could easily just be a social media hiatus. He's done it before. Hoping that's the case, but idk
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Post by thedragon on Apr 23, 2022 18:57:57 GMT -5
Could easily just be a social media hiatus. He's done it before. Hoping that's the case, but idk 100% possible.
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