drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Feb 16, 2022 11:22:25 GMT -5
Assists are overrated - if you pass the ball to a wide open teammate and they miss the shot no assist. Unlike football - pass to a wide open receiver and he drops it - incomplete pass and it's in the record books. Turnovers however are more telling though. Agree that assists may not be an accurate indicator of a bad team but they sure as heck are an accurate indicator of a good team, or at least a team that is playing well in a game, i.e. clicking on all cylinders. I think, more than anything, the number of assists our defense gives up says a lot about how bad our defense is.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 16, 2022 11:28:00 GMT -5
I understand the roster isn’t exactly stacked, but a team cannot have a 35% shooter leading the team in shots per game. Sure, he’s getting open looks, but that’s how teams are playing him.
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beenaround
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Post by beenaround on Feb 16, 2022 13:12:59 GMT -5
Folks. We can nitpick at Dante and Beard , suggest they improve this or that. But the fact is that the roster is a combination of players that cannot compete...even with mid tier Ivy or A 10 teams. ( Not saying there is not some talent, ie Aminu or Ryan, who are frosh, but it is not enhanced on this team.)I concur with the 99 % who want a new coach next year. Hoping Dante finishes better at the rim, or Tyler gets more confidence, etc etc is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 16, 2022 13:23:16 GMT -5
I understand the roster isn’t exactly stacked, but a team cannot have a 35% shooter leading the team in shots per game. Sure, he’s getting open looks, but that’s how teams are playing him. iowa this isn't true. Nobody is playing off Dante giving him 15ft Js. He usually is hitting the defender with a cross, clearing space and rising. Now I admit that he is missing more than hitting but it's a good shot that he needs to make.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 16, 2022 13:31:04 GMT -5
I understand the roster isn’t exactly stacked, but a team cannot have a 35% shooter leading the team in shots per game. Sure, he’s getting open looks, but that’s how teams are playing him. iowa this isn't true. Nobody is playing off Dante giving him 15ft Js. He usually is hitting the defender with a cross, clearing space and rising. Now I admit that he is missing more than hitting but it's a good shot that he needs to make. No they’re giving him space to shoot 3’s, he chooses to dribble into pull up 15 footers. If it’s a screen the big usually drops back or follows into the lane to contest or block the shot. Bottom line is that opponents want him to shoot it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 18:31:46 GMT -5
In case you're wondering, Harris' 24 shots were the 2nd most for a Hoya in a single game in the last 15 years.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 16, 2022 18:38:13 GMT -5
In case you're wondering, Harris' 24 shots were the 2nd most for a Hoya in a single game in the last 15 years. Who was first?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 18:53:56 GMT -5
In case you're wondering, Harris' 24 shots were the 2nd most for a Hoya in a single game in the last 15 years. Who was first? Jessie had a 26 shot game vs Providence his senior year.
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Feb 16, 2022 19:19:59 GMT -5
As long as they are open and in control, Dante could take 30 shots as far as I am concerned, they are still likely the best 30 shots we are gonna get on those possessions. I think there is a much better chance of Dante bumping up his shooting percentage than one of our 7-footers suddenly growing a low post game like some mushrooms around a tree after a rainy day
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Feb 16, 2022 19:38:03 GMT -5
As long as they are open and in control, Dante could take 30 shots as far as I am concerned, they are still likely the best 30 shots we are gonna get on those possessions. I think there is a much better chance of Dante bumping up his shooting percentage than one of our 7-footers suddenly growing a low post game like some mushrooms around a tree after a rainy day Disagree. Just like what other teams do to us to get the best shot, GU should use the shot clock the same way. Pass it around and move. When the shot clock is down to 10 seconds, then anything goes, including Dante’s 17-footers.
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 16, 2022 19:47:00 GMT -5
The simple fact is that we need better from Dante. He can take as many of those elbow shots as he wants. That is his shot. His play last game was a flat out embarrassment, and I root for the kid. If he thinks that is helping, he is wrong.
Run the freaking offense and move the ball. Go watch some Terrell Allen videos. These no pass possessions have to end.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Feb 16, 2022 20:05:51 GMT -5
As long as they are open and in control, Dante could take 30 shots as far as I am concerned, they are still likely the best 30 shots we are gonna get on those possessions. I think there is a much better chance of Dante bumping up his shooting percentage than one of our 7-footers suddenly growing a low post game like some mushrooms around a tree after a rainy day Disagree. Just like what other teams do to us to get the best shot, GU should use the shot clock the same way. Pass it around and move. When the shot clock is down to 10 seconds, then anything goes, including Dante’s 17-footers. I do agree that we need to "pass" the ball a little more but I disagree with you that Dante shouldn't shoot the ball. He is our most effective player and when he's on. His shots are not falling now and I think it is due to the many injuries he's had over he course of the season. However if he can make the right adjustments (when to pass and when to shoot), his shots are going to drop and the team is gonna benefit because it is going to make it harder for teams to focus on Aminu and Carey. Plus if Carey and Dante are hitting mid range and long range shots, that is going to open up the lanes even more for Aminu. Right now it is too much pressure on Carey and Aminu and we need Dante to become that third scoring threat.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 16, 2022 21:59:12 GMT -5
We will have a new coach next season. That coach will not hand the reigns to Harris.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 17, 2022 6:28:34 GMT -5
The write-up of the game on the main page is incorrect. Dante was 5-12 last night, not 5-15.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 17, 2022 6:37:32 GMT -5
Dante played well last night.
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dense
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Post by dense on Feb 17, 2022 8:11:46 GMT -5
The simple fact is that we need better from Dante. He can take as many of those elbow shots as he wants. That is his shot. His play last game was a flat out embarrassment, and I root for the kid. If he thinks that is helping, he is wrong. Run the freaking offense and move the ball. Go watch some Terrell Allen videos. These no pass possessions have to end. Or these let me get in so deep and not have a plan cause I can't finish in traffic drives also. This kid needs a floater bad to be a reliable Div 1 player. He can get to that 10ft area but never takes 1.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 17, 2022 9:08:02 GMT -5
Ewing's offenses have been predicated on great point guard/combo guard play (Mac/Akinjo, Mac/Terrell Allen/Jagan, Dante/Senior Blair). Dante has taken a great step back offensively as well as defensively (where people are shooting 3s over him like he isn't even there. Part of that is a length issue). The alternative Beard, while looking to pass first can't score inside, midrange or outside and his handles are a little shaky and slow. If the point guard/combo guard problem were solved the rest of the team would actually be pretty good this year. But when we don't have a QB or driver, then it doesn't matter if you are driving a Ferrari or a Mini, the result will be the same.
I think if Dante can perfect his Curtis Staples 3pt shot he will be quite good. He seems well aware that he needs to add it to his arsenal and can't just rely on 2003's most inefficient shot in the universe, the midrange. But right now his 3pt shot is an automatic turnover. This year it's the 3pt shot-put shot and it probably won't be till next year that it is good.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Feb 17, 2022 11:00:37 GMT -5
FWIW, Dante is too short to implement the PNR. I noticed last night that he had at least one pass to the PNR man tapped away and intercepted. Ewing has to understand this.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Feb 17, 2022 11:02:29 GMT -5
FWIW, Dante is too short to implement the PNR. I noticed last night that he had at least one pass to the PNR man tapped away and intercepted. Ewing has to understand this. Bahahahah and I guess because his favorite food is oatmeal he can’t finish left either huh?
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 17, 2022 11:21:02 GMT -5
FWIW, Dante is too short to implement the PNR. I noticed last night that he had at least one pass to the PNR man tapped away and intercepted. Ewing has to understand this. DrQ Chris Paul is 6'0". He is probably one of the better if not the best PnR guards ever. Dante has to improve on his decision making and the option rolling has to be better. Creighton attempted to run the same PnR game against us last year but it didn't work as well. We defended better last year and their bigs were worse last year.
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