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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 23:06:12 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on Dec 13, 2020 23:25:36 GMT -5
He has 16 points through five games. Really like what I’ve seen from him too but I would slow down a bit on whether or not he’s over performing based on rank. Have you seen enough yet to determine whether he is outplaying his rank? Yes I did.
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 13, 2020 23:26:45 GMT -5
A nice mix of Markel Starks and a skinny kid names Charles Smith. He is a lot of fun to watch play, great instincts and great compete level. Let's enjoy watching him develop. Charles Smith...one helluva player! I am enjoying him, love the confidence, and the diversified game. He is enjoying this moment. So happy we won tonight, Dante led the way!!
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 13, 2020 23:57:31 GMT -5
We joke a lot about every Ewing recruit being a "diamond in the rough", underrated sleeper. I think for once we may have a guy who truly fits this description. Most of Ewing's better players have been guys who outplay their rankings. He and his staff can find those dudes after they lose out on their initial choices.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 14, 2020 0:13:18 GMT -5
A nice mix of Markel Starks and a skinny kid names Charles Smith. He is a lot of fun to watch play, great instincts and great compete level. Let's enjoy watching him develop. Nothing in his quickness, build or shooting form that reminds me of Charles. As for Markel Dante has a step on him, a better burst. he can also seems more effective at getting to the hoop and scoring. Admittedly Dante has a ways to go to match the careers of those two, especially Smitty. But there is no doubt he is FAR ahead of both at the same stage. Those other two guys weren't seeing the court much as freshmen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 0:16:03 GMT -5
The reason why Harris gets this 50/50 and not Posh is he was in a basketball ready position when it popped loose. He really does a good job of staying locked in. In a lot of ways he plays just as intense as Akinjo. He just doesn't wear it on his sleeve like AK.
We'll see how he looks going forward, but he was top flight tonight.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 14, 2020 0:34:09 GMT -5
He could end up being at least as good as RJ Davis by the end of this season.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 14, 2020 0:51:44 GMT -5
He needs to play 30 minutes a night for the remainder of the season.
I thought this before tonight, but the reason I thought it was because Jalen Harris simply isn't a big east starting level point guard. So we were simply wasting reps for Dante with every minute we were playing Jalen.
But now I think this because Dante is a dynamic talent. Posh Alexander is an elite defender, and Dante ate his lunch. That was impressive to watch
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 14, 2020 0:54:41 GMT -5
A nice mix of Markel Starks and a skinny kid names Charles Smith. He is a lot of fun to watch play, great instincts and great compete level. Let's enjoy watching him develop. Nothing in his quickness, build or shooting form that reminds me of Charles. As for Markel Dante has a step on him, a better burst. he can also seems more effective at getting to the hoop and scoring. Admittedly Dante has a ways to go to match the careers of those two, especially Smitty. But there is no doubt he is FAR ahead of both at the same stage. Those other two guys weren't seeing the court much as freshmen. In fairness, neither of those two saw the court much because they were in stacked backcourts as freshmen. And in Charles' case, we were still in 80's mentality, where 90 percent of freshmen were there to learn and never play. If Dante were on either of those teams, he would never have seen the court either. Heck, he was barely playing THIS season before tonight. That being said, I agree Dante is ready to play at the Big East level, obviously. I hope that we are good at developing kids, because if he develops, he has a chance to be special
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 14, 2020 0:56:59 GMT -5
Thank you Dante. That is all. I said this before the season started he is good and should be starting now.Jalen Harris should be the back up. Dante Harris is solid right now. Jalen shouldn't be the back up. He should be out of the rotation entirely. Dante, Juggy and TJ should be getting the vast majority of the backcourt minutes. Jalen should be situational.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 14, 2020 1:01:17 GMT -5
jctnhoya4ever deserves some props for being all over the forum trying to tell us how good this kid is from the day he signed. He hit the nail on the head on this one. 100%. If I didn't at one point say he was being extreme, I definitely thought it. He was completely right. He was right that Dante should be starting and will be a legit piece immediately. He was completely right. Dante is a baller. Plain and simple. He proved it tonight. He has the it factor.
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Post by tribeninerhoya on Dec 14, 2020 6:12:42 GMT -5
In the land of hyperbolic reactions born from excitement, I couldn’t help but think of Iverson.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 14, 2020 6:28:49 GMT -5
Nothing in his quickness, build or shooting form that reminds me of Charles. As for Markel Dante has a step on him, a better burst. he can also seems more effective at getting to the hoop and scoring. Admittedly Dante has a ways to go to match the careers of those two, especially Smitty. But there is no doubt he is FAR ahead of both at the same stage. Those other two guys weren't seeing the court much as freshmen. In fairness, neither of those two saw the court much because they were in stacked backcourts as freshmen. And in Charles' case, we were still in 80's mentality, where 90 percent of freshmen were there to learn and never play. If Dante were on either of those teams, he would never have seen the court either. Heck, he was barely playing THIS season before tonight. That being said, I agree Dante is ready to play at the Big East level, obviously. I hope that we are good at developing kids, because if he develops, he has a chance to be special One could argue Smitty wouldn't have seen the court as a junior if it hadn't been for PJ Carlesimo giving him minutes on some summer team, or at least that is what I heard. Thompson even warned Smith when recruiting him that he would not play at Georgetown except for some needed substituting occasionally on defense. Smith not playing much those first two seasons had less to do with a stacked backcourt ahead of him and more about Thompson not knowing what he had or Smith not yet being ready for the big lights. Markel as the fourth guard on the Hoyas his frosh season should have seen more minutes despite the three studs on the roster. III kept him on that bench though so Markel too may not have been ready. I highly doubt he would have had such a wonderful debut in his first two Big East games as Dante just did.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 14, 2020 6:31:41 GMT -5
In the land of hyperbolic reactions born from excitement, I couldn’t help but think of Iverson. I thought of that in regards to the blow-by-speed and getting to whatever spot he wanted. Iverson though also had that freakish athleticism which Dante does not possess.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 14, 2020 6:43:02 GMT -5
We should have a board rule against AI comparisons. 😉 Jalen may have jinxed himself by wearing the number “3”. You dare wear that number, you better deliver.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 14, 2020 7:01:54 GMT -5
In fairness, neither of those two saw the court much because they were in stacked backcourts as freshmen. And in Charles' case, we were still in 80's mentality, where 90 percent of freshmen were there to learn and never play. If Dante were on either of those teams, he would never have seen the court either. Heck, he was barely playing THIS season before tonight. That being said, I agree Dante is ready to play at the Big East level, obviously. I hope that we are good at developing kids, because if he develops, he has a chance to be special One could argue Smitty wouldn't have seen the court as a junior if it hadn't been for PJ Carlesimo giving him minutes on some summer team, or at least that is what I heard. Thompson even warned Smith when recruiting him that he would not play at Georgetown except for some needed substituting occasionally on defense. Smith not playing much those first two seasons had less to do with a stacked backcourt ahead of him and more about Thompson not knowing what he had or Smith not yet being ready for the big lights. Markel as the fourth guard on the Hoyas his frosh season should have seen more minutes despite the three studs on the roster. III kept him on that bench though so Markel too may not have been ready. I highly doubt he would have had such a wonderful debut in his first two Big East games as Dante just did. Smith cemented his playing time as a junior after his 22 point breakout game against Ohio State in the ncaa tourney...
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 14, 2020 7:59:08 GMT -5
So this game against Ohio State happened in the post season of his sophomore year? If so that was two years before my time as a Hoya viewer. But throughout his senior year I kept hearing/reading about the whole PJ thing. I guess the media oversimplified all of it.
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Post by paranoia2 on Dec 14, 2020 8:07:22 GMT -5
You could see in earlier games that Dante had fire in his eyes. His shot was fluid, he was just missing. Very good handle. His most important trait is BALLS. His tweet before the game was something like “7:30 pm Kill or be killed” & that is awesome.
Kobe Clark has that too. Kobe can hopefully take the minutes of Bile, get sweet shooting Berger some more minutes and win some games.
The spacing with Dante & a little Berger added to Blair, Pickett, Carey should insure Wahab having some serious room to maneuver in the paint.
Patrick needs to deploy his weapons properly because there are wins in this team.
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Post by paranoia2 on Dec 14, 2020 8:15:13 GMT -5
So this game against Ohio State happened in the post season of his sophomore year? If so that was two years before my time as a Hoya viewer. But throughout his senior year I kept hearing/reading about the whole PJ thing. I guess the media oversimplified all of it. Freshman year Charles Smith was a rarely used defensive waterbug that would harass & use his quick feet trying to draw charges on damn near every defensive possession. Think Joesph Toumou but a serious one with less buffoonery. I believe Big John told him he would never get serious playing time. The OSU game would be so much more epic if the team had not laid the major egg vs. Providence in Elite 8. Smith just started draining 3’s against the Buckeyes erasing a 15 point halftime deficit. Next season he had the coast to coast to be Syracuse and the bank shot to beat LSU in NCAA tournament and had developed a series of jerky jerk floaters along the way. Became he team leader.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 14, 2020 8:18:25 GMT -5
Remember that this kid was putting out positive energy and good leadership during the spring and summer too. Not just a player-a leader
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