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Post by hoyanewyorka on Nov 7, 2019 18:42:38 GMT -5
Yes...the 6'8" 4-Star Junior who averaged six ppg in 2018-19 & scored 6 points against Mount St. Mary. That Jamorko. HA - so instead you want to see the 6'6" former 4 Star recruit that could barely get on the floor at LSU didn't even average 2 points a game shot 18% from the 3 played Junior College last year and went 1 for 5 against St Mary's...you mean that Galen? What an odd argument and to be crystal clear I am thrilled to have Galen on this team...but typically the term enough is enough is saved for repeated examples of something occurring and needing a change not after 1 game where Pickett had a solid night and Galen was at best mediocre. Your timing is bizarre to say the least... Hell yes! PE has given Jamorko EVERY opportunity to succeed. We keep waiting for the "potential" of Jamorko to emerge. For the sleeping giant to wake up. Myself included! I realized late last season, & last night reaffirmed, that he is just not the guy who we all want him to be. This is a guy who scored TWO points in our N.I.T. loss to Harvard. Against the Mount Jamorko scored 6 points in 28 minutes...Galen scored 5 in 15. You give Galen the 28 minutes he scores in double figures. With Jamorko, it's just MOTS.
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Post by justsaying on Nov 7, 2019 18:54:39 GMT -5
HA - so instead you want to see the 6'6" former 4 Star recruit that could barely get on the floor at LSU didn't even average 2 points a game shot 18% from the 3 played Junior College last year and went 1 for 5 against St Mary's...you mean that Galen? What an odd argument and to be crystal clear I am thrilled to have Galen on this team...but typically the term enough is enough is saved for repeated examples of something occurring and needing a change not after 1 game where Pickett had a solid night and Galen was at best mediocre. Your timing is bizarre to say the least... Hell yes! PE has given Jamorko EVERY opportunity to succeed. We keep waiting for the "potential" of Jamorko to emerge. For the sleeping giant to wake up. Myself included! I realized late last season, & last night reaffirmed, that he is just not the guy who we all want him to be. This is a guy who scored TWO points in our N.I.T. loss to Harvard. Against the Mount Jamorko scored 6 points in 28 minutes...Galen scored 5 in 15. You give Galen the 28 minutes he scores in double figures. With Jamorko, it's just MOTS. He and Blair was on the floor when the defense started to take its toll and I saw Pickett rebounding on a high level. I’ve seen advancements in his game. He was one of the better players on the floor over the course of the whole game for that game. If you are judging by only points scored then you will have a different take.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 18:55:08 GMT -5
HA - so instead you want to see the 6'6" former 4 Star recruit that could barely get on the floor at LSU didn't even average 2 points a game shot 18% from the 3 played Junior College last year and went 1 for 5 against St Mary's...you mean that Galen? What an odd argument and to be crystal clear I am thrilled to have Galen on this team...but typically the term enough is enough is saved for repeated examples of something occurring and needing a change not after 1 game where Pickett had a solid night and Galen was at best mediocre. Your timing is bizarre to say the least... Hell yes! PE has given Jamorko EVERY opportunity to succeed. We keep waiting for the "potential" of Jamorko to emerge. For the sleeping giant to wake up. Myself included! I realized late last season, & last night reaffirmed, that he is just not the guy who we all want him to be. This is a guy who scored TWO points in our N.I.T. loss to Harvard. Against the Mount Jamorko scored 6 points in 28 minutes...Galen scored 5 in 15. You give Galen the 28 minutes he scores in double figures. With Jamorko, it's just MOTS. Yeah but he had 8 boards, and was 3-6 from the field. Alexander, who I thought played fine, was 1-5 and had 2 boards. I don't think what you need in the starting lineup is another scorer. We're going to need both of those kids to play well for us to be good. Plenty of minutes at the 3-4 spot to go around.
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 7, 2019 20:05:23 GMT -5
I think Pickett and Mosely both played well last night.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 7, 2019 20:59:34 GMT -5
Blair can shoot, but he’s streaky not consistent.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 7, 2019 22:48:12 GMT -5
Blair can shoot, but he’s streaky not consistent. During the post-game press conference, Pat explained what he said to Blair after seeing him miss open shots. Basically, Blair has to make open shots. Then he said something like Jordan, Miller, etc... are shooters and shooters make open shots. If Blair thinks of himself as a shooter, then he has to make the open shots.
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Post by ewingitrust on Nov 7, 2019 22:59:50 GMT -5
I think Pickett and Mosely both played well last night. Jagan Jamorko and Jahvon...bare minimum 2 outta the 3 need to play well to ensure success.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 8, 2019 11:27:20 GMT -5
If we employ the press (as I think we should) we are going to need everyone and a lot of fresh legs to do it. They all play a role. That said, Jamarko made some big plays down the stretch and was solid overall. His game has matured and I see no reason to yank him from the line up after one game...that’s just absurd.
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 8, 2019 11:53:04 GMT -5
If we employ the press (as I think we should) we are going to need everyone and a lot of fresh legs to do it. They all play a role. That said, Jamarko made some big plays down the stretch and was solid overall. His game has matured and I see no reason to yank him from the line up after one game...that’s just absurd. I thought Jamorko was good the other night. I think the expectations people have for him after his freshman year might be a little unrealistic with this current team, but he defended and rebounded well and finished the shots he took. If can fill that role on a consistent basis and play with the effort and energy he showed he will be an important part of a winning team.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 8, 2019 11:58:05 GMT -5
KEEP SHOOTING!!!
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Post by rhw485 on Nov 8, 2019 12:13:52 GMT -5
Hell yes! PE has given Jamorko EVERY opportunity to succeed. We keep waiting for the "potential" of Jamorko to emerge. For the sleeping giant to wake up. Myself included! I realized late last season, & last night reaffirmed, that he is just not the guy who we all want him to be. This is a guy who scored TWO points in our N.I.T. loss to Harvard. Against the Mount Jamorko scored 6 points in 28 minutes...Galen scored 5 in 15. You give Galen the 28 minutes he scores in double figures. With Jamorko, it's just MOTS. Yeah but he had 8 boards, and was 3-6 from the field. Alexander, who I thought played fine, was 1-5 and had 2 boards. I don't think what you need in the starting lineup is another scorer. We're going to need both of those kids to play well for us to be good. Plenty of minutes at the 3-4 spot to go around. Agree on this point. I actually think whichever player shows more of an ability to create his own shot should not start and be in the second unit. Pickett was fine on Wednesday. He didn't force shots, actually finished a drive to the hoop, only committed one turnover and rebounded well. In first half still saw moments where our guards forced their own shot instead of making the extra pass (there's one from McClung where Pickett was in the corner is fresh in my mind but I'm sure there's others). That is not on Pickett. Galen missed a bunny that Pickett would get killed for. They're both going to be good for us and would actually like to see them together as 3/4 when LeBlanc is out.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 8, 2019 12:55:36 GMT -5
For Pickett to effectively help us, all he needs to do is defend well, rebound, not turn it over (a consistent problem the first two years), and stay within himself on offense (not forcing shots). He did that on Wednesday, and I think it worked fairly well.
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Post by hoyanewyorka on Nov 8, 2019 18:05:07 GMT -5
If we employ the press (as I think we should) we are going to need everyone and a lot of fresh legs to do it. They all play a role. That said, Jamarko made some big plays down the stretch and was solid overall. His game has matured and I see no reason to yank him from the line up after one game...that’s just absurd. Its not one game. I mentioned that PE has given him EVERY opportunity to succeed. That part about one game is your idea.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Nov 8, 2019 18:31:41 GMT -5
I think Pickett will need to increase his fg% though in order to another scoring threat on the floor. He's a career sub 40% shooter from 2 and he's at 35% from the 3pt land. He's gonna have to really step it up some though (granted it's just one game). I do get the sense from some fans that he tends to disappear on the court and not to be heard from again.
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Post by hoyanewyorka on Nov 8, 2019 18:49:18 GMT -5
For Pickett to effectively help us, all he needs to do is defend well, rebound, not turn it over (a consistent problem the first two years), and stay within himself on offense (not forcing shots). He did that on Wednesday, and I think it worked fairly well. If you review the Mount game you can see there were numerous times where failed to cover the switch on the screen. He consistently has this problem. That was how Mosley picked up his first foul the other night trying to cover Picketts man. In 2018-19 this young man did not have a single double/double in Big East Play. NOT ONE! In the road loss to Creighton he went scoreless in 16 minutes and was BENCHED by PE the following game. That cost him his starting job to Mosley. In his first game back after the benching he went scoreless again in 12 minutes. I'm willing to pay anyone who can find video of JP diving on the ground for a 50/50 ball or positioning himself for & taking a charge the ENTIRE time he has been here. And yes, I see the 117 rebounds last year. Yes he can rebound. We finished with 19 wins in 2018-19. If we are going to better that this year JP has GOT to put the ball in the basket in the average of at least 12 ppg. Playing "well" against the Mount for Jamorko, to me, disappointing. For GU to dance and advance IN the dance, this young man has to play "exceptionally well". The reason we are even having this discussion is because of his mediocre overall (or should I say "well") play.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 19:29:42 GMT -5
By that logic Alexander shouldn't play either because he couldn't get off the bench Freshman year at LSU...There's no rule that states guys can't improve from year to year.
What he did last year has no bearing on what he can, or will do this year. Don't understand the desire to dump on a kid who had a pretty descent game just because.
We don't need Marko to average 12pts a game to go dancing. We need him to be good in his role.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Nov 8, 2019 21:03:35 GMT -5
We don't need Marko to average 12pts a game to go dancing. We need him to be good in his role. Honestly, I think we do need him to increase in his role and also be efficient by increasing his scoring average too. He's a career 7.8 ppg/3.8 rbs per., so perhaps we'll be able to see it come to fruition this year and beyond.
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 9, 2019 6:27:58 GMT -5
thought jamarko steady and its the d and the rebbies we need and to hit SOME good shots.. Javon is Javon ie when hes got he hits when not WHOAAAA. so hes gotta be more consistant as a shooter to be good and help the team. Just way off last game. GO HOYAS ALL NEED TO CONTRIBUTE ALL AROUND GAME
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 9, 2019 10:33:26 GMT -5
I think the goal is to have ALL of them performing at a high level when they are in the game. To me, who starts and who does not is largely irrelevant.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 9, 2019 14:23:59 GMT -5
KEEEEEEP SHOOOOOOOOTING!!!!!
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