dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Jul 8, 2019 9:54:06 GMT -5
Alexander's physique is well developed and he handles, is quick. He is very confident. Not sure about his jump shot.
I like Jamorko, and want to see how he handles the competition from Alexander and Gardner. Watching him Saturday, he looks like he's still growing. He's slim and has not filled out yet. There will be a good place for him on this team.
Wilson has lots of development to do. He's relatively fast, he's quick and can catch the ball. He's quite slender and needs to work on skills. He will be great by the time he leaves the program.
I haven't seen Gardner play at Kenner, but I expect a lot of good things from him. He will contribute.
I watched a couple of games on Saturday.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 8, 2019 10:26:51 GMT -5
Last year we were 6th in 3FGAs in the BE and 4th in %, but we lost our best 3-pt shooter in Jessie. The good news is that with the new distance, next year will be an adjustment year for everyone, while we're strong inside.
Since we will not have a 3-pt specialist on the roster and it looks like Omer will be the best 3-pt shooter, Pat will need to figure out a lineup that sets Omer up for 3-pt shots a la Govan. Is that with Qudus or Josh or Pickett at the 4?
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 8, 2019 11:06:51 GMT -5
Last year we were 6th in 3FGAs in the BE and 4th in %, but we lost our best 3-pt shooter in Jessie. The good news is that with the new distance, next year will be an adjustment year for everyone, while we're strong inside.Since we will not have a 3-pt specialist on the roster and it looks like Omer will be the best 3-pt shooter, Pat will need to figure out a lineup that sets Omer up for 3-pt shots a la Govan. Is that with Qudus or Josh or Pickett at the 4? I think the biggest adjustments to the new length will be on the defensive side of the ball... I don't think it will have much impact offensively, teams are still gonna shoot a lot of threes ...
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Post by prhoya on Jul 8, 2019 12:16:08 GMT -5
Last year we were 6th in 3FGAs in the BE and 4th in %, but we lost our best 3-pt shooter in Jessie. The good news is that with the new distance, next year will be an adjustment year for everyone, while we're strong inside.Since we will not have a 3-pt specialist on the roster and it looks like Omer will be the best 3-pt shooter, Pat will need to figure out a lineup that sets Omer up for 3-pt shots a la Govan. Is that with Qudus or Josh or Pickett at the 4? I think the biggest adjustments to the new length will be on the defensive side of the ball... I don't think it will have much impact offensively, teams are still gonna shoot a lot of threes ... Someone posted an article on how shooting percentages are affected downward the first season after the change of distance and take a few seasons to get back to previous percentages. If we use that as precedent, there will be a drop this year throughout college basketball.
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Post by wponds on Jul 8, 2019 13:36:33 GMT -5
Last year we were 6th in 3FGAs in the BE and 4th in %, but we lost our best 3-pt shooter in Jessie. The good news is that with the new distance, next year will be an adjustment year for everyone, while we're strong inside.Since we will not have a 3-pt specialist on the roster and it looks like Omer will be the best 3-pt shooter, Pat will need to figure out a lineup that sets Omer up for 3-pt shots a la Govan. Is that with Qudus or Josh or Pickett at the 4? I think the biggest adjustments to the new length will be on the defensive side of the ball... I don't think it will have much impact offensively, teams are still gonna shoot a lot of threes ... This is a good point that I think has been overlooked (by myself too). We had defensive connectivity problems last year and we're definitely going to need to improve drastically in that this year, especially with more space to cover. Can't just bank on our opponents having an off game
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 8, 2019 17:15:19 GMT -5
I think the biggest adjustments to the new length will be on the defensive side of the ball... I don't think it will have much impact offensively, teams are still gonna shoot a lot of threes ... Someone posted an article on how shooting percentages are affected downward the first season after the change of distance and take a few seasons to get back to previous percentages. If we use that as precedent, there will be a drop this year throughout college basketball. I don't believe the drop & shooting % will be large enough to affect the way teams play on the offensive end though... Teams are going to shoot a lot of open threes because defenses are going to have a hard time closing out on kick outs this season... I just don't think the distance change will be any type of advantage for Gtown this coming season, as you seemed to imply in your original post... Here's an article that speaks to the stats you're referring to... www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2019-06-05/mens-college-basketball-3-point-line-extended-internationalWhen the line was moved before the 2008-09 season, the distance went from 19 feet, 9 inches to 20 feet, 9 inches. The percentage of 3-point shots made during that season compared with the previous season declined from 35.2% to 34.4%. The percentage of made 3-point field goals steadily increased back to 35.2% in Division I by the 2017-18 season.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 8, 2019 17:56:43 GMT -5
This is what I wrote: "Last year we were 6th in 3FGAs in the BE and 4th in %, but we lost our best 3-pt shooter in Jessie. The good news is that with the new distance, next year will be an adjustment year for everyone, while we're strong inside." You wrote: "I just don't think the distance change will be any type of advantage for Gtown this coming season, as you seemed to imply in your original post"
Yes, next year, IMO teams that shoot a lot of 3s should be affected slightly, while teams that drive and have a strong inside presence will benefit from the extra space. Therefore, IMO, with more drivers than ever in recent memory, an aggressive 7' in the Kente and more rebounders, GU should benefit from the new rule, while also benefitting from other teams making a few less 3s.
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 8, 2019 20:36:00 GMT -5
This is what I wrote: "Last year we were 6th in 3FGAs in the BE and 4th in %, but we lost our best 3-pt shooter in Jessie. The good news is that with the new distance, next year will be an adjustment year for everyone, while we're strong inside." You wrote: "I just don't think the distance change will be any type of advantage for Gtown this coming season, as you seemed to imply in your original post" Yes, next year, IMO teams that shoot a lot of 3s should be affected slightly, while teams that drive and have a strong inside presence will benefit from the extra space. Therefore, IMO, with more drivers than ever in recent memory, an aggressive 7' in the Kente and more rebounders, GU should benefit from the new rule, while also benefitting from other teams making a few less 3s. I don't think your numbers will add up PR, teams making a "few less 3's" per game would mean a significant drop in shooting % for programs, not a slight one... Of course, time will tell...
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Post by prhoya on Jul 9, 2019 1:22:47 GMT -5
We shall see, but I think the distance change will be to GU’s advantage next year.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 9, 2019 1:32:04 GMT -5
The distance change is meaningful and may help bigs well beyond this season. It will be interesting to observe.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jul 9, 2019 5:24:22 GMT -5
Three quick observations.
First, the farther out you move the line, theoretically the bigger the impact to shooting percentages (at least initially until practice and reps adapts). That is to say, the effect on shooting percentages when moving to 22’ 2” should be larger than when moving to 20’9” feet.
Second, the change this year adds an additional 1’5”. The prior move added only 1’. Again, this should mean a bigger impact on 3PFG% than before.
Finally, teams with higher volume of 3s will be disproportionately affected. If we assume a 1% drop in 3PFG% on the Hoyas conference volume last year, the team would have missed 4.3 more 3PFG, or lost 13 points in 18 conference games. On the other hand, Villanova would have missed 5.6 more 3PFG, or lost 17 points in 18 conference games. Not huge, but perhaps a -4 point differential is enough to negatively impact a team’s conference win/loss record in a league with many 1-2 point game outcomes.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 9, 2019 6:06:38 GMT -5
I see airballs and long rebounds galore! 🤪
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 9, 2019 14:59:17 GMT -5
The shooters are still gonna shoot. But the players, especially some of the bigs, who were already pushing their range limits at the old distance, may hesitate at the extended arc, for confidence reasons if for nothing else.
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 9, 2019 15:12:51 GMT -5
Three quick observations. First, the farther out you move the line, theoretically the bigger the impact to shooting percentages (at least initially until practice and reps adapts). That is to say, the effect on shooting percentages when moving to 22’ 2” should be larger than when moving to 20’9” feet. Second, the change this year adds an additional 1’5”. The prior move added only 1’. Again, this should mean a bigger impact on 3PFG% than before. Finally, teams with higher volume of 3s will be disproportionately affected. If we assume a 1% drop in 3PFG% on the Hoyas conference volume last year, the team would have missed 4.3 more 3PFG, or lost 13 points in 18 conference games. On the other hand, Villanova would have missed 5.6 more 3PFG, or lost 17 points in 18 conference games. Not huge, but perhaps a -4 point differential is enough to negatively impact a team’s conference win/loss record in a league with many 1-2 point game outcomes. Doesn't this -4 pt differential between Gtown & Villanova have to be divided over the 18 conference games?
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jul 9, 2019 15:33:15 GMT -5
Three quick observations. First, the farther out you move the line, theoretically the bigger the impact to shooting percentages (at least initially until practice and reps adapts). That is to say, the effect on shooting percentages when moving to 22’ 2” should be larger than when moving to 20’9” feet. Second, the change this year adds an additional 1’5”. The prior move added only 1’. Again, this should mean a bigger impact on 3PFG% than before. Finally, teams with higher volume of 3s will be disproportionately affected. If we assume a 1% drop in 3PFG% on the Hoyas conference volume last year, the team would have missed 4.3 more 3PFG, or lost 13 points in 18 conference games. On the other hand, Villanova would have missed 5.6 more 3PFG, or lost 17 points in 18 conference games. Not huge, but perhaps a -4 point differential is enough to negatively impact a team’s conference win/loss record in a league with many 1-2 point game outcomes. Doesn't this -4 pt differential between Gtown & Villanova have to be divided over the 18 conference games? You could, but points aren't divided in actual game play. So, you would have to assume that a -4 point differential would manifest itself in Villanova scoring 1 less point in 4 games, 2 less points in 2 games, 4 less points in 1 game, or some variation thereof. It's highly theoretical, but it is possible that a -4 point differential could have impacted one of Nova's conference wins. If movement of the 3P line out to 22'2" impacts 3PFG% closer to 2%, a resulting -8 point differential would obviously have a larger effect. Heck, maybe 3PFG% won't drop at all. We'll find out soon enough....
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 16, 2019 16:17:19 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on Jul 16, 2019 16:21:05 GMT -5
Ball Handlers: Akinjo, McClung, Allen, Mosely
Wings: Pickett, Alexander, Blair, Gardner
Bigs: Yurtseven, Leblanc, Wahab, Ighoefe, Wilson
Not too many tweeners. Feel like each of those guys fit comfortably into one or the other category.
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Post by drquigley on Jul 16, 2019 19:14:54 GMT -5
Saw Alexander at Kenner on Saturday. Unless Pickett significantly improves his handle there is no way in my mind (and the mind of those I talked to at Kenner) that Jamorko starts for us this year. Alexander is explosive something Jamorko most definitely is not. Alexander can handle the ball, can take it to the hoop, and can shoot off the dribble - all things Jamorko could not do the last two years. I really hope I'm wrong but like I said, unless he really ups his game, there are just too many talented forwards on this team for Jamorko to see more than 5-10 minutes a game this year.
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Post by trillesthoya on Jul 16, 2019 19:46:52 GMT -5
Saw Alexander at Kenner on Saturday. Unless Pickett significantly improves his handle there is no way in my mind (and the mind of those I talked to at Kenner) that Jamorko starts for us this year. Alexander is explosive something Jamorko most definitely is not. Alexander can handle the ball, can take it to the hoop, and can shoot off the dribble - all things Jamorko could not do the last two years. I really hope I'm wrong but like I said, unless he really ups his game, there are just too many talented forwards on this team for Jamorko to see more than 5-10 minutes a game this year. Morko is the X-factor on defense. Given our scoring options elsewhere in the starting lineup, that might be marginally more important. Haven't seen enough of Alexander's defensive game to know who's better in that regard, but we do know Pickett's length gives other teams fits.
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Post by kbones17 on Jul 16, 2019 21:22:22 GMT -5
Saw Alexander at Kenner on Saturday. Unless Pickett significantly improves his handle there is no way in my mind (and the mind of those I talked to at Kenner) that Jamorko starts for us this year. Alexander is explosive something Jamorko most definitely is not. Alexander can handle the ball, can take it to the hoop, and can shoot off the dribble - all things Jamorko could not do the last two years. I really hope I'm wrong but like I said, unless he really ups his game, there are just too many talented forwards on this team for Jamorko to see more than 5-10 minutes a game this year. Morko is the X-factor on defense. Given our scoring options elsewhere in the starting lineup, that might be marginally more important. Haven't seen enough of Alexander's defensive game to know who's better in that regard, but we do know Pickett's length gives other teams fits. Agree that Pickett’s defense will keep him on the court (as long as he stayed committed to it) for some minutes (my initial guess is 15-20min). We can’t really tell about Alexander or Gardner’s defense from Kenner. Honestly if Pickett could rebound better and bang just a little he could be earn some minutes as a “big” as well.
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