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Post by teddy16 on May 14, 2019 8:11:08 GMT -5
Agreed. BE, in general, should continue to pursue transfers. particularly grad transfers. these athletes can be impact players in the conference. (Creighton,Xavier and Butler seem active) its too bad this year that blue bloods like UNC and KY were competition - typically they are not - hope this offseason is an aberration. coach Ewing has been wise to augment his recruiting in this manner. it can pay big dividends this year
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 8:39:27 GMT -5
Thornton is simply roster fill at this point.
SJU is going to be terrible this year.
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Post by 95hoya on May 14, 2019 10:58:28 GMT -5
People on this board assume every commit is good. Thornton is not good. Big East does not look to be very strong next year once again.
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Post by EtomicB on May 14, 2019 11:11:54 GMT -5
People on this board assume every commit is good. Thornton is not good. Big East does not look to be very strong next year once again. He may not be good but he's better than what St. John's has right now ball handling wise so in my view Thornton would be a good get for St. John's...
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Post by mdtd on May 14, 2019 14:18:48 GMT -5
People on this board assume every commit is good. Thornton is not good. Big East does not look to be very strong next year once again.Villanova, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall would all dispute that claim. Heck, DePaul is going to be good next year. That claim that you, and others have made is going to be 100% wrong. Add in the Hoyas and the league is competing for best in the country next year.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 14, 2019 14:29:44 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 14, 2019 14:44:33 GMT -5
Villanova, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall would all dispute that claim. Heck, DePaul is going to be good next year. Except that DePaul loses Eli Cain, Max Strus, and Femi Olujobi, who accounted for an average of 46 points per game last season. That's a lot to backfill for a team that still finished last in the Big East for yet another season. "Since DePaul joined the conference in 2005, the Blue Demons have finished in last place nine times in 14 seasons." depauliaonline.com/41483/sports/commentary-after-four-years-the-time-to-win-is-long-overdue/
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Post by 95hoya on May 14, 2019 14:54:24 GMT -5
People on this board assume every commit is good. Thornton is not good. Big East does not look to be very strong next year once again.Villanova, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall would all dispute that claim. Heck, DePaul is going to be good next year. That claim that you, and others have made is going to be 100% wrong. Add in the Hoyas and the league is competing for best in the country next year. Marquette just lost the Hauser twins. DePaul stinks. It looks a lot like this past year where the Big East didn't have a legit top 25 team. Conference stinks right now and needs to step it up. Recruiting has to pick up. Not many NBA talents in the league.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 14:56:05 GMT -5
People on this board assume every commit is good. Thornton is not good. Big East does not look to be very strong next year once again.Villanova, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, Providence and Seton Hall would all dispute that claim. Heck, DePaul is going to be good next year. That claim that you, and others have made is going to be 100% wrong. Add in the Hoyas and the league is competing for best in the country next year. I don't see too many people making either claim - that the league won't be stronger or that it's going to be #1. I think most people think those teams will be better (though less so with a couple of high-profile departures) and the league will be stronger across the middle than this year. Far more important to me is that we don't backslide. Whether or not our .500 conference record was aided by a weak BE season, I think we're all expecting even more from our team next year. That same record or worse this year would feel like a giant letdown. I realize we're gonna have a tougher schedule in & out of conference... but if we're not going to make a Memphis type splash in recruiting (and we're not), then we've got to have incremental and noticeable improvements year over year. For next year, that means - to me, at least - a winning conference record and a trip to the NCAAs.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 15:11:58 GMT -5
You guys are missing the boat on DePaul.
Strus was a chucker and Cain was a bad Justin Simon.
Paul Reed was their best player by the end of the year, and will be again this season. He's a pro. Coleman-Lands was a top 50 HS transfer who got hurt early last year but will be back. Gage will be a solid PG. Their incoming (#3 BE class + xfer Carteare Gordon) is as good as anybody besides Nova.
They're going to be much better.
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 14, 2019 23:17:57 GMT -5
Most amazing thing to me is SJU appears to have had no clue about what to do after discarding Mullin. Arguments can and have been made for and against keeping him, but to let him go with no idea of what to do next? Very poor leadership...and, as always, in every organization, leadership starts at the TOP! Sad to see what's happening in Queens. If it were happening in Syracuse.... hooray! But to an original Big East team? Embarrassing and a a bad look for the Conference. Hard to see how this one has a happy ending. Almost as bad as UCLA teasing Calipari and then being stuck with Mick Cronin for the next 7 years. And the embarrassment of a low APR. collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/05/14/report-ucla-in-danger-of-missing-2021-ncaa-tournament-through-apr/
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Post by FromTheBeginning on May 15, 2019 10:03:42 GMT -5
Let's not confuse excellent college teams with the number of NBA prospects on a team - they are not always the same thing.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 15, 2019 11:29:40 GMT -5
Let’s get this straight, all college coaches would love NBA prospects. Non-blue bloods have to figure out how to recruit and win without them. Duke recruiting has shifted to the Calipari model- one-and-dones, constantly recruit over kids, force lesser players out, bend the rules, etc.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 15, 2019 11:31:55 GMT -5
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Post by wponds on May 15, 2019 13:40:55 GMT -5
Huge for coach Anderson
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 15, 2019 14:10:59 GMT -5
Figueroa staying at St. John's is smart. He fits Coach Anderson's style of play to a tee. With Figueroa back in the fold, St. John's has pieces to work with including Heron, and sit out transfers who will be eligible in Eli Wright and David Caraher. Coach Anderson absolutely needs to find at minimum a starting caliber PG, another legit Big and a playmaker/perimeter threat from the wing. 2/3 of those needs filled and St. John's will be able to be competitive. Didn't think that was even remotely possible during the disastrous handling of Chris Mullin and the impending coaching search....
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Post by hoyaboya on May 15, 2019 18:01:00 GMT -5
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Post by 95hoya on May 16, 2019 12:50:06 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this, but Kenny Johnson is likely replacing Broadus at UMD. Broadus was a really good recruiter for them, and they end up hiring someone even better. Ugh. I guess it's not really going to impact the Hoyas if we aren't really going to bother with local recruits.
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Post by jld54 on May 16, 2019 13:04:48 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this, but Kenny Johnson is likely replacing Broadus at UMD. Broadus was a really good recruiter for them, and they end up hiring someone even better. Ugh. I guess it's not really going to impact the Hoyas if we aren't really going to bother with local recruits. I am not sure of the basis of the statement that we are not trying to get local recruits. Pat got Pickett late in his first class, and kept Walker in the fold. While Mac and Qudus are not in the immediate DMV, their travel team on a big player in Virginia. It looks like we are recruiting locals like Williams, Timberlake etc for 2020, I think it is too early to make a judgment on our success,, but to say we do not try is a bit much.
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Post by 95hoya on May 16, 2019 13:15:44 GMT -5
We really have not been in on the top locals for years. Walker was not highly recruited. I am talking about the top recruits in the DMV.
We have no shot at Timberlake. Extending offers is not the same thing as recruiting a kid. Every 5 star kid will get an offer from Georgetown.
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