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Post by SSHoya on Apr 3, 2019 8:54:06 GMT -5
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 3, 2019 9:07:56 GMT -5
If I am a Nova fan, I'm probably not mad about this. Kid seemed to feel entitled. Washington transferring from Minny. What is with these kids? When the going gets tough, they all transfer. I get it if a coach leaves but Booth is gone next year and minutes are available. Maybe just work on your game a little.
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 3, 2019 9:19:21 GMT -5
Jeez...what did that young man do to you? Do you believe that D1, Big East teams should give roster spots to guys who cannot play, whose sole qualification for being on the squad is their relentless clowning in support of the team? And we played poor,y enough for him to actually get in the game. It is not what he did - DU giving him a roster spot is embarrassing, but not nearly as much so as our squad sucking so bad that he actually got one of his five minutes all year against us. Give him a bullhorn and make him a cheerleader, but calling him a player is a disgrace. And call me old school, but anyone who acts like that on the bench should be punched in the face - it is not a stage or a dance floor. I have a different take. That player is not my cup of tea (and it Editeded me off immensely when he went into the game against us), but I believe he is on the roster for his style of ‘leadership.’ Without going too deep, I have been a student of leadership for many, many years. We are all leaders... and followers. When we are leaders, we show others through our words and actions how to proceed into an uncertain future to obtain a desired future. There are times when bench players show excitement and energy and that helps all the players both on and off the bench. And there are times when bench players sulk demonstrating ‘negative leadership’ to their teammates sucking energy and enthusiasm out of the environment. We saw this year how important energy and effort was to the performance of the Hoyas. One could argue that that kid’s antics were an energy accelerator to his teammates and the team’s fans. When he was having fun, it helped everyone have more fun and play loose with tons of energy.. Sometimes, it looked forced, but sometimes leaders have to force things. So while you see no reason to include him on the roster, I think I understand exactly what Depaul’s Coach does so. If we could find a player who would never play a minute, but make everyone on the team perform better, I would take him in a heartbeat.
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Post by teddy16 on Apr 3, 2019 9:24:21 GMT -5
neither quinnerly nor Willard (potential) developments are surprising. as far as BE Conf - Willard is the far bigger loss. another example of big conference economics throwing shade on BE. Hoiberg getting $3.5mm (approx.) per year for 7 years at Nebraska. that's probably going rate - Willard would 3X his compensation if offered. what's the Hall's response to that? Holtman tripled his comp when he vacated Butler HC job for OSU 2 years ago. Mack probably similar deal w/Louisville. Big10, ACC (with their war chests from rich tv deals) preying on BE coaches.
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 3, 2019 9:31:53 GMT -5
No surprise here. I am sure the Quinerly kid was disappointed he could not break into the rotation on a regular basis. He had the one outburst on social media after a game during the year but then was quiet for the rest of the year, but you had to think a 5 star kid like him was going to look for a place where he was a major contributor right away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 9:33:12 GMT -5
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 3, 2019 9:39:00 GMT -5
If Willard leaves, it would be big loss for Seton Hall and the conference. I was never huge fan of his and thought he always looked like a whiner on the sidelines, but you have to give him credit for how hard his teams play. They lost a huge part of their team last year and had no right to be a good team this year in the Big East, but he found a way to get them to compete hard every night and make the tournament. I am sure Seton Hall could find some young, up and coming coach to take the job (it is still a Big East school even if they can't pay like the Big 10 and ACC) but it probably means the program takes a step back for at least a year or so as a new staff comes in and implements their program.
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Post by kettlehill on Apr 3, 2019 9:42:07 GMT -5
Why would Quinerly transfer to Pitt? Xavier Johnson!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 9:43:54 GMT -5
Why would Quinerly transfer to Pitt? Xavier Johnson! He likes the view from the bench?
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 3, 2019 9:51:58 GMT -5
Why would Quinerly transfer to Pitt? Xavier Johnson! Pitt's backcourt with the two freshman they had this year is really strong. Not sure if Quinerly would be great fit there. I think one of the issues at Nova was that the style of play never fit his game. He appears to be a guy that needs to have the ball in his hands a lot and wants to play a lot of pick and roll and isolation to try to utilize his one on one skills. Nova does use some pick and roll but they always seemed to be more of a ball movement/team oriented offensive system and Quinerly looked out of place most of the time. Maybe I am wrong about that, and he just got outplayed by other guys on Nova, but it never seemed to be a good fit.
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Post by vv83 on Apr 3, 2019 10:12:35 GMT -5
If Willard leaves, it would be big loss for Seton Hall and the conference. I was never huge fan of his and thought he always looked like a whiner on the sidelines, but you have to give him credit for how hard his teams play. They lost a huge part of their team last year and had no right to be a good team this year in the Big East, but he found a way to get them to compete hard every night and make the tournament. I am sure Seton Hall could find some young, up and coming coach to take the job (it is still a Big East school even if they can't pay like the Big 10 and ACC) but it probably means the program takes a step back for at least a year or so as a new staff comes in and implements their program. One Seton Hall rumor circulating is Tim Cluess (Iona) if Willard leaves for Va Tech. Iona plays really up tempo, 3 point heavy offense, and they have won a lot of games under Cluess. But he is 60 years old, and it is not too common for a coach to get his first major conference head coach job at 60. The guy is, however, a good coach - it would be interesting to see what he could do at a higher level program. Recruiting would probably be the biggest question mark, having never recruited at a Big East level before. Wonder of Myles Powell might rethink his initial plan to return for his senior year if Willard leaves? If Cluess did end up as the new coach - Powell would get as many shots as he wanted in that system, so it could be to his advantage to stay and put up monster scoring numbers.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 3, 2019 11:00:07 GMT -5
If Willard leaves, it would be big loss for Seton Hall and the conference. I was never huge fan of his and thought he always looked like a whiner on the sidelines, but you have to give him credit for how hard his teams play. They lost a huge part of their team last year and had no right to be a good team this year in the Big East, but he found a way to get them to compete hard every night and make the tournament. I am sure Seton Hall could find some young, up and coming coach to take the job (it is still a Big East school even if they can't pay like the Big 10 and ACC) but it probably means the program takes a step back for at least a year or so as a new staff comes in and implements their program. One Seton Hall rumor circulating is Tim Cluess (Iona) if Willard leaves for Va Tech. Iona plays really up tempo, 3 point heavy offense, and they have won a lot of games under Cluess. But he is 60 years old, and it is not too common for a coach to get his first major conference head coach job at 60. The guy is, however, a good coach - it would be interesting to see what he could do at a higher level program. Recruiting would probably be the biggest question mark, having never recruited at a Big East level before. Wonder of Myles Powell might rethink his initial plan to return for his senior year if Willard leaves? If Cluess did end up as the new coach - Powell would get as many shots as he wanted in that system, so it could be to his advantage to stay and put up monster scoring numbers. Have to think the AD will bring Holloway back to take Willards place if he leaves...
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Post by mdtd on Apr 3, 2019 11:47:20 GMT -5
If Willard leaves, it would be big loss for Seton Hall and the conference. I was never huge fan of his and thought he always looked like a whiner on the sidelines, but you have to give him credit for how hard his teams play. They lost a huge part of their team last year and had no right to be a good team this year in the Big East, but he found a way to get them to compete hard every night and make the tournament. I am sure Seton Hall could find some young, up and coming coach to take the job (it is still a Big East school even if they can't pay like the Big 10 and ACC) but it probably means the program takes a step back for at least a year or so as a new staff comes in and implements their program. Willard is an excellent coach, though he's not fun to watch on our side. I fully expect Seton Hall to offer him a raise and that is what makes him stay, he seems to be a very loyal guy.*Note, I also expected something similar with Mack, but not as significant as this one.* But, if they don't, he should and probably will leave. Cluess is an excelent coach and has done absolute wonders with Iona. The team he had this year was well below average on their roster, yet they rolled through the MAAC tourney aside from a scare against St. Peters and gave UNC a run for their money early on. They play very fast and let the players play, something that could work for that current roster. Powell may want to leave, but he'd be a good fit for Cluess. I'm a big Tim Cluess fan.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 3, 2019 11:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 3, 2019 12:05:17 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that PE should make a run at Webster Polo? If so I agree 1000%
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 3, 2019 12:20:16 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that PE should make a run at Webster Polo? If so I agree 1000% I mean, if Coach Ewing is considering making a change on the coaching staff, Webster would have to be an obvious person to call right? From DC, played and coached at Harvard, coached at UCF and Virginia Tech, and has been linked with the recruitment of Landers Nolley, Anthony Harris, Emanuel Miller, Isaiah Wilkins, and Yavuz Gultekin. He was also the lead recruiter from Virginia Tech for Qudus Wahab.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 3, 2019 13:28:05 GMT -5
Jeez...what did that young man do to you? Do you believe that D1, Big East teams should give roster spots to guys who cannot play, whose sole qualification for being on the squad is their relentless clowning in support of the team? And we played poor,y enough for him to actually get in the game. It is not what he did - DU giving him a roster spot is embarrassing, but not nearly as much so as our squad sucking so bad that he actually got one of his five minutes all year against us. Give him a bullhorn and make him a cheerleader, but calling him a player is a disgrace. And call me old school, but anyone who acts like that on the bench should be punched in the face - it is not a stage or a dance floor. He's a walk-on...smh. Coach Leitao can have who ever he wants as a walk on. Also you have no idea if he's not a decent basketball player. I coached high school, AAU and college basketball. I always had a student-athlete like this young man on the end of my bench because his enthusiasm is infectious. He probably brings a lot of energy and effort to practice that is really really helpful in January when mental fatigue starts to set in. He comes across like the type of young man who will run through a wall if Coach Leitao asked him to. He plays his role (end of the bench) to the best of his abilities, with a smile on his face, and it's into every moment of the game knowing there is very little chance he will ever play in a game all season. His teammates and coaching staff seem to love him and that's all that really matters. He's completely sold and ecstatic to be part of the program. Did the Monmouth bench players a few years ago bother you? If so ask your self why? The real question is what's wrong with you? You gotta a lot of issues to talk about someone's child like that. Keyboard tough guy wanting to punch somebody's kid in the face because you don't like how they celebrate at the end of the bench on a program that hasn't had much to be excited about fit over a decade. I wonder if he was at the end of Georgetown's bench would you be saying the thing...
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 3, 2019 13:46:05 GMT -5
One Seton Hall rumor circulating is Tim Cluess (Iona) if Willard leaves for Va Tech. Iona plays really up tempo, 3 point heavy offense, and they have won a lot of games under Cluess. But he is 60 years old, and it is not too common for a coach to get his first major conference head coach job at 60. The guy is, however, a good coach - it would be interesting to see what he could do at a higher level program. Recruiting would probably be the biggest question mark, having never recruited at a Big East level before. Wonder of Myles Powell might rethink his initial plan to return for his senior year if Willard leaves? If Cluess did end up as the new coach - Powell would get as many shots as he wanted in that system, so it could be to his advantage to stay and put up monster scoring numbers. Have to think the AD will bring Holloway back to take Willards place if he leaves... He would have to be considered. Holloway recruited pretty much the entire team. He was there for their win on Senior day over Villanova and the whole team ran over to him and grouped hugged him. Would make roster continuity easier to manage. I'm still not sure Willard should leave with such a strong team coming back. His team could be in line to win the BIG EAST next year and have a deep NCAA run putting Willard in even higher demand a year from now Where he could be in line for even a better job than V-Tech. All this noise with V-Tech could also be negotiating ploy for Seton Hall. Could also be a negotiating ploy to squeeze every last dollar he can from V-Tech. Curious to see what he does...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 3, 2019 14:00:05 GMT -5
Do you believe that D1, Big East teams should give roster spots to guys who cannot play, whose sole qualification for being on the squad is their relentless clowning in support of the team? And we played poor,y enough for him to actually get in the game. It is not what he did - DU giving him a roster spot is embarrassing, but not nearly as much so as our squad sucking so bad that he actually got one of his five minutes all year against us. Give him a bullhorn and make him a cheerleader, but calling him a player is a disgrace. And call me old school, but anyone who acts like that on the bench should be punched in the face - it is not a stage or a dance floor. He's a walk-on...smh. Coach Leitao can have who ever he wants as a walk on. Also you have no idea if he's not a decent basketball player. Would you believe he played with Jaren Jackson Jr. at La Lumiere? www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/2/13/16964618/depaul-walk-on-pantelis-xidias-college-basketball-greatest-hype-man
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 3, 2019 14:20:43 GMT -5
Have to think the AD will bring Holloway back to take Willards place if he leaves... He would have to be considered. Holloway recruited pretty much the entire team. He was there for their win on Senior day over Villanova and the whole team ran over to him and grouped hugged him. Would make roster continuity easier to manage. I'm still not sure Willard should leave with such a strong team coming back. His team could be in line to win the BIG EAST next year and have a deep NCAA run putting Willard in even higher demand a year from now Where he could be in line for even a better job than V-Tech. All this noise with V-Tech could also be negotiating ploy for Seton Hall. Could also be a negotiating ploy to squeeze every last dollar he can from V-Tech. Curious to see what he does... Honestly tech seem like a downgrade for Willard. A football first school out in the middle of nowhere in Deep South country. Quite different than the bright lights of an east coast basketball first school. Buzz took the job because he had problem with Marquette admin and saw va tech as a stepping stone to the UT or A&M job.
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