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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 14:46:23 GMT -5
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 19, 2020 22:48:27 GMT -5
Georgetown: “They obviously had a tough go early on this season with a lot of players leaving [four transferred]. Same thing, I could come in at that three spot and start right away. Coach [Pat] Ewing is no-nonsense, a big yeller. I love that program, they’ve been recruiting me for a while now, since Grade 11 or 10.”
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 19, 2020 23:09:56 GMT -5
Why not! I would welcome that! We have two big holes to fill when Jagan and Terrell leave. We could use a big athletic guy with great confidence and is willing to be a great team player.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 20, 2020 8:41:17 GMT -5
Georgetown: “They obviously had a tough go early on this season with a lot of players leaving [four transferred]. Same thing, I could come in at that three spot and start right away. Coach [Pat] Ewing is no-nonsense, a big yeller. I love that program, they’ve been recruiting me for a while now, since Grade 11 or 10.” I like the fact that he acknowledges that coach Ewing is a no nonsense guy and he embraces that type of coaching. I do worry some times that some recruits are not attracted to that type of hard coaching and it may cost the Hoyas some players they might get otherwise. A lot of the higher level recruits have not had to be coached hard for most of their high school careers, they have always been the best athlete on the floor and have not heard much criticism from coaches. This is not to say these guys don't put the effort into their development, because in order to get to a high major D1 level, these kids all work hard, but some have not heard, and don't want to hear, a coach talk to them about their mistakes and what they need to do better. I look at Coach Ewing as an "old school" type of coach and hopefully there are enough talented recruits that want that type of coaching and understand the benefits that can come from it if you embrace that mentality.
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Post by hoyas315 on Jan 20, 2020 9:02:57 GMT -5
Matthew Moncrieffe-Alexander, PF, Orangeville One of the best available prospects in the country, Moncrieffe-Alexander played with energy and showed his athleticism in the open court. A versatile 6-foot-7 forward, Moncriefe-Alexander is an elite high school athlete. He was particularly effective in transition, where he played above the rim and finished. There’s potential here defensively, as he’s capable of guarding multiple positions. He finished 10-for-15 from the field and scored 21 points in a loss to Hargrave. Recruiting; Moncrieffe-Alexander has scheduled official visits to Georgetown and Oklahoma State.
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Post by njhoyalawya on Jan 20, 2020 9:40:16 GMT -5
Georgetown: “They obviously had a tough go early on this season with a lot of players leaving [four transferred]. Same thing, I could come in at that three spot and start right away. Coach [Pat] Ewing is no-nonsense, a big yeller. I love that program, they’ve been recruiting me for a while now, since Grade 11 or 10.” I like the fact that he acknowledges that coach Ewing is a no nonsense guy and he embraces that type of coaching. I do worry some times that some recruits are not attracted to that type of hard coaching and it may cost the Hoyas some players they might get otherwise. A lot of the higher level recruits have not had to be coached hard for most of their high school careers, they have always been the best athlete on the floor and have not heard much criticism from coaches. This is not to say these guys don't put the effort into their development, because in order to get to a high major D1 level, these kids all work hard, but some have not heard, and don't want to hear, a coach talk to them about their mistakes and what they need to do better. I look at Coach Ewing as an "old school" type of coach and hopefully there are enough talented recruits that want that type of coaching and understand the benefits that can come from it if you embrace that mentality. I agree completely, and thought the same thing after reading his quote. Also, if you saw the recent video clip on twitter of Terrance Williams, it kind of references the same thing (he ultimately went with a coach that better fit his personality). With 3 years out there now, recruits will have a clear picture of PE's approach and whether it fits their personalities. Hopefully, time will attract those who are best fits with the culture and approach of the program, and help iron out those who are not. I would venture to say that out of the recent transfers, one definitely was not cut out for PE's "old school" ways and needed more stroking of the ego. I'd rather loose a recruit early on, because they could not handle the approach, then have to deal with a transfer later. I get the sense PE makes no apologies for who he is (just ask Thompson never did), nor should he as it is part of what made him one of the greatest to ever play the game. I trust he'll consistently start finding his "best fit" players.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 20, 2020 10:23:20 GMT -5
Quite frankly, that’s what it’s all about. You can’t remake yourself; you have to be who you are. I am a middle school teacher, old school. There are kids who can’t stand me in the first couple of weeks of school. Then they come to realize my kind of approach and love/discipline is what they need. I have parents of former students of mine tell the administrators, I want this other child of mine in Mr Smith’s class. I am not here to stroke anyone’s ego, especially an 11-14 year old.
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Post by s4hoyas on Jan 20, 2020 10:55:49 GMT -5
Do we know dates of his visits yet? He seems to be a very attractive recruit based on his "elite athleticism", open court ability, and defensive versatility...my question would be, how's his shooting (both mid range and 3 pt) or is this "a work in progress"?
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 20, 2020 11:04:30 GMT -5
I like the fact that he acknowledges that coach Ewing is a no nonsense guy and he embraces that type of coaching. I do worry some times that some recruits are not attracted to that type of hard coaching and it may cost the Hoyas some players they might get otherwise. A lot of the higher level recruits have not had to be coached hard for most of their high school careers, they have always been the best athlete on the floor and have not heard much criticism from coaches. This is not to say these guys don't put the effort into their development, because in order to get to a high major D1 level, these kids all work hard, but some have not heard, and don't want to hear, a coach talk to them about their mistakes and what they need to do better. I look at Coach Ewing as an "old school" type of coach and hopefully there are enough talented recruits that want that type of coaching and understand the benefits that can come from it if you embrace that mentality. I agree completely, and thought the same thing after reading his quote. Also, if you saw the recent video clip on twitter of Terrance Williams, it kind of references the same thing (he ultimately went with a coach that better fit his personality). With 3 years out there now, recruits will have a clear picture of PE's approach and whether it fits their personalities. Hopefully, time will attract those who are best fits with the culture and approach of the program, and help iron out those who are not. I would venture to say that out of the recent transfers, one definitely was not cut out for PE's "old school" ways and needed more stroking of the ego. I'd rather loose a recruit early on, because they could not handle the approach, then have to deal with a transfer later. I get the sense PE makes no apologies for who he is (just ask Thompson never did), nor should he as it is part of what made him one of the greatest to ever play the game. I trust he'll consistently start finding his "best fit" players. I saw Williams in AAU practices. That coach was a yeller. Maybe he just wanted a different approach. Kid never really appeared sold on Hoyas.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 20, 2020 11:24:35 GMT -5
Quite frankly, that’s what it’s all about. You can’t remake yourself; you have to be who you are. I am a middle school teacher, old school. There are kids who can’t stand me in the first couple of weeks of school. Then they come to realize my kind of approach and love/discipline is what they need. I have parents of former students of mine tell the administrators, I want this other child of mine in Mr Smith’s class. I am not here to stroke anyone’s ego, especially an 11-14 year old. I 100% agree that Coach Ewing needs to be who he is, if not the players see through guys who are phony and they don't respect those guys long term. I think when he first got the job he knew he needed to upgrade the talent level to play the way he wants to play so he may have taken a few chances on some guys who had talent/athleticism but might not have been the best fit personality wise with the culture he is trying to develop. Some have worked out, some have not. This year has probably shown him that he needs guys who buy in and want to be part of what he is building and hopefully he can go out and find a group of recruits that fit.
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Post by hoyazeke on Jan 20, 2020 11:29:27 GMT -5
I call BS on the coaching style argument. No one coaches harder than K or Izzo and neither has issues getting 4* and better recruits...none of our 4 transfers left because of being coached too hard and TWill didn't decommitt because of that either...if we are say 17-2 now with a win over Duke, Nova or SH, TWill is still onboard and excited about his future team....imo
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Post by njhoyalawya on Jan 20, 2020 11:30:15 GMT -5
Quite frankly, that’s what it’s all about. You can’t remake yourself; you have to be who you are. I am a middle school teacher, old school. There are kids who can’t stand me in the first couple of weeks of school. Then they come to realize my kind of approach and love/discipline is what they need. I have parents of former students of mine tell the administrators, I want this other child of mine in Mr Smith’s class. I am not here to stroke anyone’s ego, especially an 11-14 year old. You are my favorite kind of teacher, and the type I always want my kids to have. Your students are lucky to have you! The first time my daughter had such a teacher was in elementary school. She had previously had the warm, fuzzy and, quite honestly, easier type of teacher. She was intimidated and a bit discouraged at first. No parent or former student had a good thing to say about him. At the first parent-teacher conference, I quickly realized he was spot on with every strength and weakness of my daughter, and was giving her the tools to work on the things he thought she could certainly improve upon. I told her how it was the best parent-teacher conference I had ever been to, to trust his approach, and that she will realize one day that he will be one of the best teachers she ever had. Fast forward to High School, and that did prove to be true. (And I have gone back to the teacher and let him know it!)
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Post by njhoyalawya on Jan 20, 2020 11:34:57 GMT -5
I agree completely, and thought the same thing after reading his quote. Also, if you saw the recent video clip on twitter of Terrance Williams, it kind of references the same thing (he ultimately went with a coach that better fit his personality). With 3 years out there now, recruits will have a clear picture of PE's approach and whether it fits their personalities. Hopefully, time will attract those who are best fits with the culture and approach of the program, and help iron out those who are not. I would venture to say that out of the recent transfers, one definitely was not cut out for PE's "old school" ways and needed more stroking of the ego. I'd rather loose a recruit early on, because they could not handle the approach, then have to deal with a transfer later. I get the sense PE makes no apologies for who he is (just ask Thompson never did), nor should he as it is part of what made him one of the greatest to ever play the game. I trust he'll consistently start finding his "best fit" players. I saw Williams in AAU practices. That coach was a yeller. Maybe he just wanted a different approach. Kid never really appeared sold on Hoyas. Interesting. I do think it will work out for the best in the end. I did not like the interview clip I saw. You never burn bridges, and I do think he could have responded to the reporter without the reference to Georgetown, which did seem to put Georgetown in a negative light. But, he is just a kid, and will learn. I wish him the best in the end. We'll get our "right fit" Hoyas!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 20, 2020 12:23:23 GMT -5
I call BS on the coaching style argument. No one coaches harder than K or Izzo and neither has issues getting 4* and better recruits...none of our 4 transfers left because of being coached too hard and TWill didn't decommitt because of that either...if we are say 17-2 now with a win over Duke, Nova or SH, TWill is still onboard and excited about his future team....imo Izzo and K both struggled in the first years at MSU and Duke. They were not getting 4 and 5 star kids. They built success incrementally, then started getting big time recruits. If you are going to be a tough love coach, you need a successful program to attract many of the top recruits. So when we win, they will come play for a coach who pushes them hard.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 21, 2020 19:33:44 GMT -5
Georgetown: “They obviously had a tough go early on this season with a lot of players leaving [four transferred]. Same thing, I could come in at that three spot and start right away. Coach [Pat] Ewing is no-nonsense, a big yeller. I love that program, they’ve been recruiting me for a while now, since Grade 11 or 10.” Pat Ewing = Old Yeller!
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 26, 2020 12:37:55 GMT -5
On the recruiting front, Moncrieffe has already visited Seton Hall officially and has others like Georgetown, Oklahoma State, South Carolina and St. John's involved. He'll be hitting the visit trail in just a few days. "I've got Oklahoma State coming up on the 26, 27th and 28th and then I'm going to do Georgetown February 4th, 5th and sixth," said Moncrieffe. "Then after that we are going to do two more after that." WHAT'S NEXT? As Moncrieffe said, he's got visits the next two weeks and then two more to play with. South Carolina and St. John's are obviously in play as potential spots and Kansas reached out to his coach during the week. Most likely more will reach out because he is too tough and too talented to not try and take a run at. Playing time and the ability to make an impact along with relationship with the staff are going to be keys. While he doesn't have a set timeline, Moncrieffe isn't exactly looking to drag his feet on making a decision. "I'm probably looking late February," said Moncrieffe. "it could go all the way to mid March and maybe April. I don't have any official date (to decide)." basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/four-star-matthew-alexander-moncrieffe-hitting-visit-trail
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 26, 2020 21:35:53 GMT -5
He would get plenty of time here!
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 31, 2020 0:49:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 12:38:33 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Jan 31, 2020 13:42:54 GMT -5
These highlights only make me want Moncrieff even more. What an elite athlete. Fingers crossed.
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