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Post by professorhoya on Mar 30, 2019 22:41:34 GMT -5
One year after facing a ton of scorn for his slow pace and style after the 16 seed loss, Bennett and Virginia find themselves in the Final Four. Bennett is an excellent coach. Bennett’s first 2 seasons after taking over a struggling UVA program in 2009: 15-6, 16-15, no postseasons. I wonder if UVA fans debated whether the program was actually improving at the time? Like Nova, UVA and Bennett benefited from the rules since Pack Line is about the only defense that isn't hurt by Freedom of Movement. Bennett and his Dad have been playing that slow down Packline style for years back to when they were at Wisconsin-Green Bay. |
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 30, 2019 22:43:39 GMT -5
One year after facing a ton of scorn for his slow pace and style after the 16 seed loss, Bennett and Virginia find themselves in the Final Four. Bennett is an excellent coach. And he wouldn't be any less of an excellent coach had UVA not caught a pretty decent break on the missed free throw before OT. But the idea is to keep being there and eventually something goes your way. |
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Post by tashoya on Mar 30, 2019 22:46:24 GMT -5
I have no idea what you all are talking about. College basketball ended a couple of weeks ago ;(
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Post by madgesiq92 on Mar 31, 2019 4:34:08 GMT -5
One year after facing a ton of scorn for his slow pace and style after the 16 seed loss, Bennett and Virginia find themselves in the Final Four. Bennett is an excellent coach. Bennett’s first 2 seasons after taking over a struggling UVA program in 2009: 15-16, 16-15, no postseasons. I wonder if UVA fans debated whether the program was actually improving at the time? UVAs KenPom ratnking had improved from 90 to 76 over his first two years so there was statistical evidence of improvement. Georgetown’s KenPom has dropped from 69 to 95 and we just witnessed the worst defensive efficiency in the history of the program— so improvement can certainly be debated because there is no statistical basis for it. |
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Post by seaweed on Mar 31, 2019 5:24:55 GMT -5
Bennett’s first 2 seasons after taking over a struggling UVA program in 2009: 15-16, 16-15, no postseasons. I wonder if UVA fans debated whether the program was actually improving at the time? UVAs KenPom ratnking had improved from 90 to 76 over his first two years so there was statistical evidence of improvement. Georgetown’s KenPom has dropped from 69 to 95 and we just witnessed the worst defensive efficiency in the history of the program— so improvement can certainly be debated because there is no statistical basis for it. No statistical basis for improvement, if you look at one ranking and ignore, you know, record. There is no requirement that there be a turd in every pool - you are allowed to be happy, even optimistic. |
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 31, 2019 8:15:07 GMT -5
Carsen Edwards was super last night! He nade a helluva effort in a losing cause. That shot by Diakite was a nail in the coffin.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 31, 2019 9:03:57 GMT -5
UVAs KenPom ratnking had improved from 90 to 76 over his first two years so there was statistical evidence of improvement. Georgetown’s KenPom has dropped from 69 to 95 and we just witnessed the worst defensive efficiency in the history of the program— so improvement can certainly be debated because there is no statistical basis for it. No statistical basis for improvement, if you look at one ranking and ignore, you know, record. There is no requirement that there be a turd in every pool - you are allowed to be happy, even optimistic. Highest offensive efficiency in conference play since 2010. Every single starter actually improved their efficiency from the non-con to.conference play except...Jessie Govan. Defense in conference improved YoY as well. Is there a kenpom subscription that doesn't allow scrolling or clicking? Literally the only way you could argue a team starting three freshmen didn't improve this year is to look at the headline kenpom ranking full year. So yes if we get a flux capacitor and everyone is a freshmen in November again, this team will not be any better next year. |
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 9:25:29 GMT -5
Edwards for Purdue is 1 of those guards that would definitely put up 30+ on the Hoyas this year. I miss the big man battles in college but the guard play in the tourney has been fun to watch. He’s like top 3 best current guard in the country. Not three years down the line, today. |
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 9:26:20 GMT -5
One year after facing a ton of scorn for his slow pace and style after the 16 seed loss, Bennett and Virginia find themselves in the Final Four. Bennett is an excellent coach. They got a lot of luck though. Missing the free throw and getting a long rebound like that rarely is successful. Purdue had a really good team with a lot of matchup problems. The 7-3 Dutch guy is really mobile which helps him avoid foul trouble. Edwards was on fire but is only .34% from 3 during the season. Luck is part of the equation. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 31, 2019 9:29:39 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 9:29:53 GMT -5
Bennett’s first 2 seasons after taking over a struggling UVA program in 2009: 15-16, 16-15, no postseasons. I wonder if UVA fans debated whether the program was actually improving at the time? UVAs KenPom ratnking had improved from 90 to 76 over his first two years so there was statistical evidence of improvement. Georgetown’s KenPom has dropped from 69 to 95 and we just witnessed the worst defensive efficiency in the history of the program— so improvement can certainly be debated because there is no statistical basis for it. That’s the most basic of basic analyses. Is that really how you measure the quality of a team and state of a program? |
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 31, 2019 13:19:19 GMT -5
Virginia was my preseason pick to cut down the nets. Was worried about them getting past the fist weekend because of possible lingering doubt based upon last year. Almost all of their games have been tight and they've gotten lucky but they made it to the Final Four nonetheless which is such a big step forward for them that they can play free and loose next weekend.
What a game that was! Carsen Edwards. Stud! Where was he ranked coming out of high school? Perhaps one of our freshman guards will be able to "go off" somewhat like that down the road in the NCAA tourney.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 31, 2019 13:49:55 GMT -5
Virginia was my preseason pick to cut down the nets. Was worried about them getting past the fist weekend because of possible lingering doubt based upon last year. Almost all of their games have been tight and they've gotten lucky but they made it to the Final Four nonetheless which is such a big step forward for them that they can play free and loose next weekend. What a game that was! Carsen Edwards. Stud! Where was he ranked coming out of high school? Perhaps one of our freshman guards will be able to "go off" somewhat like that down the road in the NCAA tourney. Lookin at the wrong guard. Akinjo is too much of a facilitator. But the guy who put up 47 in his HS state championship game, and put up 17 in the first half against Nova, is the guy who will put up 40 in a game sometime soon (assuming PE lets him play 30+ minutes). |
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2019 13:50:04 GMT -5
Virginia was my preseason pick to cut down the nets. Was worried about them getting past the fist weekend because of possible lingering doubt based upon last year. Almost all of their games have been tight and they've gotten lucky but they made it to the Final Four nonetheless which is such a big step forward for them that they can play free and loose next weekend. What a game that was! Carsen Edwards. Stud! Where was he ranked coming out of high school? Perhaps one of our freshman guards will be able to "go off" somewhat like that down the road in the NCAA tourney. Funny you mention Edwards. As I watched him last night, I kept envisioning James Akinjo doing that in a tourney game for us. |
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Post by seaweed on Mar 31, 2019 14:00:23 GMT -5
Game of 5 on 8 breaking out in KC
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Post by drquigley on Mar 31, 2019 14:00:54 GMT -5
Virginia was my preseason pick to cut down the nets. Was worried about them getting past the fist weekend because of possible lingering doubt based upon last year. Almost all of their games have been tight and they've gotten lucky but they made it to the Final Four nonetheless which is such a big step forward for them that they can play free and loose next weekend. What a game that was! Carsen Edwards. Stud! Where was he ranked coming out of high school? Perhaps one of our freshman guards will be able to "go off" somewhat like that down the road in the NCAA tourney. Funny you mention Edwards. As I watched him last night, I kept envisioning James Akinjo doing that in a tourney game for us. In order to do that you have to be willing to throw up a lot of threes, unafraid to score among the trees in the paint and be basically shameless. That's a description of Mac. Not saying Akinjo can't do it but my money's on Mac. |
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 31, 2019 14:42:05 GMT -5
UVAs KenPom ratnking had improved from 90 to 76 over his first two years so there was statistical evidence of improvement. Georgetown’s KenPom has dropped from 69 to 95 and we just witnessed the worst defensive efficiency in the history of the program— so improvement can certainly be debated because there is no statistical basis for it. That’s the most basic of basic analyses. Is that really how you measure the quality of a team and state of a program? Is it any more basic than measuring the same based on a W-L record? Or should I say a not overly meaningful difference? |
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 14:51:21 GMT -5
That’s the most basic of basic analyses. Is that really how you measure the quality of a team and state of a program? Is it any more basic than measuring the same based on a W-L record? Or should I say a not overly meaningful difference? It’s more. Hence, most basic (Kenpom ranking mind you, not even efficiency) of basic (W-L and most statistics in general). Just my opinion though. |
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 31, 2019 15:30:23 GMT -5
Almost positive I saw Kaleb behind or very close by the Kentucky bench just now...
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Mar 31, 2019 15:41:14 GMT -5
Almost positive I saw Kaleb behind or very close by the Kentucky bench just now... I think you are correct. I just saw the same thing. |
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