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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 21, 2019 18:17:07 GMT -5
I was watching some of the Marquette vs butler game last night and Pete Gillian was doing the game he said the committee is really looking how well teams do on the road he said each road win is like adding 10 points off your net ranking.hoyas are 4-4 on the road so far.and home win over nova.if that is really a big factor then if Hoyas can go 9-9 in big east regular season,then win at least 1 in big east tournament they might have a chance to get in that would take 3-2 down the stretch to get to 9-9. I hope they can but they are up and down.go gu. The road wins are great and help a lot, but the 3-4 record at home counterbalances that to some extent.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 21, 2019 18:21:42 GMT -5
I was watching some of the Marquette vs butler game last night and Pete Gillian was doing the game he said the committee is really looking how well teams do on the road he said each road win is like adding 10 points off your net ranking.hoyas are 4-4 on the road so far.and home win over nova.if that is really a big factor then if Hoyas can go 9-9 in big east regular season,then win at least 1 in big east tournament they might have a chance to get in that would take 3-2 down the stretch to get to 9-9. I hope they can but they are up and down.go gu. The road wins are great and help a lot, but the 3-4 record at home counterbalances that to some extent. Debbie Downer!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 21, 2019 18:31:01 GMT -5
I was watching some of the Marquette vs butler game last night and Pete Gillian was doing the game he said the committee is really looking how well teams do on the road he said each road win is like adding 10 points off your net ranking.hoyas are 4-4 on the road so far.and home win over nova.if that is really a big factor then if Hoyas can go 9-9 in big east regular season,then win at least 1 in big east tournament they might have a chance to get in that would take 3-2 down the stretch to get to 9-9. I hope they can but they are up and down.go gu. The road wins are great and help a lot, but the 3-4 record at home counterbalances that to some extent. To some extent. But since the NCAA's are neutral sites, you get more credit for road wins than you do debit for home losses.
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Post by guru on Feb 21, 2019 20:33:24 GMT -5
The road wins are great and help a lot, but the 3-4 record at home counterbalances that to some extent. Debbie Downer! Shocking
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Feb 21, 2019 22:02:07 GMT -5
The team's issue hasn't been upside; it's been game to game consistency, both in effort and less in our control, shooting. Until they string a few games of consistent effort together, it's tough to talk tourney. Because the team's MO has been more "two games trying, one game not" than anything. I think I would say it slightly differently. How about "two games where the effort and preparation are clear, one game where they are less apparent?" Especially with such a young team, I don't assume that some of the ugly games are due to a lack of effort. Sometimes they may result from misapplied effort or a lack of focus.
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Feb 21, 2019 22:19:49 GMT -5
Holy crap we beat Ohio State with only 4 guys scoring?! I think the win over Ohio State is one of the underrated wins of JT III's tenure. Everybody remembers the win over #1 Duke at MCI that season, but, in my mind, beating the second-seeded Ohio State in Dayton in the NCAA tourney was an even bigger deal.
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Post by theboardkatt on Feb 21, 2019 22:33:29 GMT -5
Also gave Florida their toughest match of the tournament - they only beat us by 4. The remainder of their games were won by 13-26 point margins.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Feb 21, 2019 22:48:08 GMT -5
Also gave Florida their toughest match of the tournament - they only beat us by 4. The remainder of their games were won by 13-26 point margins. And Darrell Owens had a really good look to take the lead and potentially win that game late.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 21, 2019 23:51:54 GMT -5
Holy crap we beat Ohio State with only 4 guys scoring?! I think the win over Ohio State is one of the underrated wins of JT III's tenure. Everybody remembers the win over #1 Duke at MCI that season, but, in my mind, beating the second-seeded Ohio State in Dayton in the NCAA tourney was an even bigger deal. I agree. Someone made a comment recently about watching III's teams wasn't fun - and this was the first game I thought of. That game was a lot of fun. I'm pretty sure Ashanti Cook was at the game last night (sitting courtside next to Alonzo). I was disappointed they didn't put him up on the big board (unless I missed it).
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 21, 2019 23:59:14 GMT -5
The team's issue hasn't been upside; it's been game to game consistency, both in effort and less in our control, shooting. Until they string a few games of consistent effort together, it's tough to talk tourney. Because the team's MO has been more "two games trying, one game not" than anything. I think I would say it slightly differently. How about "two games where the effort and preparation are clear, one game where they are less apparent?" Especially with such a young team, I don't assume that some of the ugly games are due to a lack of effort. Sometimes they may result from misapplied effort or a lack of focus. That's a nicer way of saying it.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 22, 2019 1:12:46 GMT -5
The road wins are great and help a lot, but the 3-4 record at home counterbalances that to some extent. Debbie Downer! Just trying to provide a realistic take is all. It's just easy to forget that as weak as the bubble might be, a lot of other teams have positive factors going for them too (in this case, many bubble teams don't have losses like LMU and SMU - in the end those losses will hurt us a lot more than any Big East home loss unless we lose to DePaul). I know you're just joking, but sometimes providing a realistic take is taken by some as being negative, when in reality, I would be ecstatic if we made the NCAA tournament in any capacity. And as I've said before, even the NIT would be a good accomplishment for this group and Ewing in his second year.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 22, 2019 6:27:31 GMT -5
Just trying to provide a realistic take is all. It's just easy to forget that as weak as the bubble might be, a lot of other teams have positive factors going for them too (in this case, many bubble teams don't have losses like LMU and SMU - in the end those losses will hurt us a lot more than any Big East home loss unless we lose to DePaul). I know you're just joking, but sometimes providing a realistic take is taken by some as being negative, when in reality, I would be ecstatic if we made the NCAA tournament in any capacity. And as I've said before, even the NIT would be a good accomplishment for this group and Ewing in his second year. My realistic take is that 10-8 plus 1 BET win gets us in. Let’s see if it happens first.
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Post by daveg023 on Feb 22, 2019 7:09:10 GMT -5
www.bracketmatrix.comUp to next 4 out; “in” 5 more brackets than we previously were. I really don’t think Indiana, Nebraska, and Furman would be taken over us either as they are currently shown. Win at Creighton and at a minimum we should be in the first 4 out category. That being said, I’m trying to stay realistic though about our chances (mostly as to not get my hopes up), because I think 3-2 down the stretch is our most likely outcome, which I don’t see being good enough. Take your pick of SMU, LMU, or Syracuse losses, and flip even just one and we are in much better shape. I actually think we stand a better chance of winning 3 games in 3 days at MSG (conference parity, our depth, etc) than going 4–1 down the stretch. Avoiding Wednesday will be key, but 9 wins should be enough, and honestly 8 may be too to sneak in with the 6 seed. At this point it would likely be some path of SJ/SHU/Butler, then Nova, then take your chances in the finals against Marquette (where I’d like to think we’d have lots of crowd support).
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Post by prhoya on Feb 22, 2019 7:55:48 GMT -5
www.bracketmatrix.comUp to next 4 out; “in” 5 more brackets than we previously were. I really don’t think Indiana, Nebraska, and Furman would be taken over us either as they are currently shown. Nebraska is 5-11 in confrence and has 4 games left, each against a ranked team, with two away games and without Copeland. Uphill to say the least...
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Post by MEGAFAN on Feb 22, 2019 8:01:14 GMT -5
Let's take it one game at a time... game by game... step by step... Scratch that! Let's win out, take home another BET title, and dance, baby, dance!!! Last Call. Get your non-stop one-way express train to MEGAFANLAND. All aboard! #InPatWeTrust #Mackinjo #WeAreGeorgetown #HoyaSaxa I have ridden the MEGALAND Express. It is a fun ride, although a confounding number of peaks and valleys. And its track record the last few years has been less than satisfying - it has gone off the rails too often in February and early March! All aboard! Get your one-way non-stop EXPRESS tickets to MEGAFANLAND!!! It’s more of a roller coaster ride than a train ride, but who would ask for anything less with our beloved glorious “Heart Attack Hoyas!” #InPatWeTrust #Mackinjo #WeAreGeorgetown #HoyaSaxa
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 22, 2019 9:57:36 GMT -5
Just trying to provide a realistic take is all. It's just easy to forget that as weak as the bubble might be, a lot of other teams have positive factors going for them too (in this case, many bubble teams don't have losses like LMU and SMU - in the end those losses will hurt us a lot more than any Big East home loss unless we lose to DePaul). I know you're just joking, but sometimes providing a realistic take is taken by some as being negative, when in reality, I would be ecstatic if we made the NCAA tournament in any capacity. And as I've said before, even the NIT would be a good accomplishment for this group and Ewing in his second year. I think it’s extremely realistic that we aren’t on the Bubble. ESPN doesn’t even mention us and that’s completely fair. Win a few more games and we deserve to be in the conversation, but we didn’t exactly cover ourselves in glory by losing to a crappy team like SMU. For the record, they are barely .500.
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Post by hoyas315 on Feb 22, 2019 10:26:38 GMT -5
www.bracketmatrix.comUp to next 4 out; “in” 5 more brackets than we previously were. I really don’t think Indiana, Nebraska, and Furman would be taken over us either as they are currently shown. Nebraska is 5-11 in confrence and has 4 games left, each against a ranked team, with two away games and without Copeland. Uphill to say the least...
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 22, 2019 10:33:12 GMT -5
Just trying to provide a realistic take is all. It's just easy to forget that as weak as the bubble might be, a lot of other teams have positive factors going for them too (in this case, many bubble teams don't have losses like LMU and SMU - in the end those losses will hurt us a lot more than any Big East home loss unless we lose to DePaul). I know you're just joking, but sometimes providing a realistic take is taken by some as being negative, when in reality, I would be ecstatic if we made the NCAA tournament in any capacity. And as I've said before, even the NIT would be a good accomplishment for this group and Ewing in his second year. I think it’s extremely realistic that we aren’t on the Bubble. ESPN doesn’t even mention us and that’s completely fair. Win a few more games and we deserve to be in the conversation, but we didn’t exactly cover ourselves in glory by losing to a crappy team like SMU. For the record, they are barely .500. ESPN has Georgetown in the "Next 4 Out" list!
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Post by drquigley on Feb 22, 2019 11:04:15 GMT -5
I'm officially ignoring this thread until after next Saturday. If we win our next two then I'll come back because our NCAA hopes would deserve a discussion. But a loss to either Creighton or SH effectively ends our hopes absent a BET tourney win.
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 22, 2019 11:04:43 GMT -5
I think it’s extremely realistic that we aren’t on the Bubble. ESPN doesn’t even mention us and that’s completely fair. Win a few more games and we deserve to be in the conversation, but we didn’t exactly cover ourselves in glory by losing to a crappy team like SMU. For the record, they are barely .500. ESPN has Georgetown in the "Next 4 Out" list! There arent in the Bubble Watch. I should have clarified.
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