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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 17:37:42 GMT -5
Iowa's Kim Reynolds may self isolate after her White House visit Wednesday. WH officials have been in contact with Iowa officials about situation. Iowa state medical director, Dr. Caitlin Pedati, who was also in coronavirus task force mtg Weds with VP staff, self isolating.
In conversations this weekend, President Trump has expressed concern that aides contracting coronavirus would undercut his message that the outbreak is waning and states should begin reopening, according to a person who spoke to him.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 10:42:21 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on May 11, 2020 20:00:59 GMT -5
Biden's question answers itself - because Trump doesn't give a flying #%&@ about the American public, and never has. In three to four weeks, his message will be lost in the explosion of new cases, and Trump, assuming he hasn't caught it himself by then, will blame the governors, because everything he does is perfect and nothing is his fault.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 21:22:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 20:08:36 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on May 13, 2020 9:07:38 GMT -5
Can someone point me to the part of the constitution where it says that the president's son-in-law has a say if or when an election happens?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 10:22:01 GMT -5
And they complain that China is hiding information?
Yesterday- Dr Fauci testified that the COVID-19 death toll is likely meaningfully higher than the 80,000 reported.
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Post by Elvado on May 13, 2020 17:42:41 GMT -5
So a week after the 1/5 Oval Office Meeting Bidens attempted to again unmask Flynn on 1/12/17.
He can’t recall.
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Post by badgerhoya on May 14, 2020 12:17:47 GMT -5
So a week after the 1/5 Oval Office Meeting Bidens attempted to again unmask Flynn on 1/12/17. he can’t recall. I mean, when unmasking takes place between 10k-20k times per year, it would be kind of hard to keep it straight, no? Edited. Refrain from perjorative comments on mental health, especially unproven ones.--Admin
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Post by SSHoya on May 14, 2020 12:20:16 GMT -5
I'm not going to get into this again but unmasking sounds mysterious and it is not. It not unusual in the least to help the IC understand the nature of the intelligence it has gathered. Most people have zero understanding of what it means but it sure sounds nefarious. 18 USC Section 1801(h). The pertinent phrase in 1801(h)(2) requires minimization and that intelligence information "shall not be disseminated in a manner that identifies any United States person, without the person's consent, u nless such person's identity is necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or assess its importance." Flynn is overheard on properly authorized electronic surveillance of non-U.S. person Ambassador Kislyak. An intelligence report is generated which states something along the lines: "On December 17, 2016, an identified U.S. Person associated with a political campaign discusses sanctions imposed by the USG against Russia with the Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergey Kisylak." In the bizarro world of the Republican Party and the Fox News Trump cultists, the upper echelons of the USIC should sit quietly and not determine the identity of U.S. Person referenced in the above intelligence report in order to determine if there is threat to U.S. national security. Morons. www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/CLPT-USP-Dissemination-Paper---FINAL-clean-11.17.17.pdf
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Post by Elvado on May 14, 2020 12:36:52 GMT -5
Edited. Refrain from perjorative comments on mental health, especially unproven ones.--Admin
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Post by SSHoya on May 14, 2020 13:08:19 GMT -5
All true but what did the Delaware Demented need 8 days from leaving office? The Office of the VP also has its own NSA. In Biden's case it was Jake Sullivan. It is likely that Sullivan did not have unmasking authority as Susan Rice as NSA for Obama did. The benign and proper reason for Biden to request the unmasking is to provide a turnover to Pence and his incoming NSA. Sullivan would likely not necessarily be on the dissemination list from Rice's unmasking as dissemination is close hold in my experience. Biden could have been preparing Pence for a transition and here are matters pending that may be of importance for the incoming Vice President and his NSA. Thus, the Obama/Biden turnover to Trump/Pence would have been parallel. Interestingly, Flynn admittedly lied to Pence about his contact with the Russian Ambassador. (In my work I typically did the opposite of "unmasking" by minimizing the name of U.S. Persons when it was not necessary to know the identity in order to understand the intelligence information. Those procedures are governed by the Standard Minimization Procedures (SMPs) which the Attorney General through the DOJ National Security Division proposes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court which then approves the SMPs).
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Post by blueeagle on May 14, 2020 13:12:11 GMT -5
Name calling. Check.
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Post by Elvado on May 14, 2020 13:20:48 GMT -5
He is from Delaware and the rest is self-evident
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Post by Elvado on May 14, 2020 13:25:51 GMT -5
All true but what did the Delaware Demented need 8 days from leaving office? The Office of the VP also has its own NSA. In Biden's case it was Jake Sullivan. It is likely that Sullivan did not have unmasking authority as Susan Rice as NSA for Obama did. The benign and proper reason for Biden to request the unmasking is to provide a turnover to Pence and his incoming NSA. Sullivan would likely not necessarily be on the dissemination list from Rice's unmasking as dissemination is close hold in my experience. Biden could have been preparing Pence for a transition and here are matters pending that may be of importance for the incoming Vice President and his NSA. Thus, the Obama/Biden turnover to Trump/Pence would have been parallel. Interestingly, Flynn admittedly lied to Pence about his contact with the Russian Ambassador. (In my work I typically did the opposite of "unmasking" by minimizing the name of U.S. Persons when it was not necessary to know the identity in order to understand the intelligence information. Those procedures are governed by the Standard Minimization Procedures (SMPs) which the Attorney General through the DOJ National Security Division proposes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court which then approves the SMPs). And with that benign reason and apparently above board hand off of information, they let Comey’s guys In to interview Flynn without counsel. Right.
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Post by hoya9797 on May 14, 2020 14:06:53 GMT -5
He still had the job so maybe he was still doing it?
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Post by Elvado on May 14, 2020 14:13:26 GMT -5
Or....
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Post by SSHoya on May 14, 2020 14:16:40 GMT -5
The Office of the VP also has its own NSA. In Biden's case it was Jake Sullivan. It is likely that Sullivan did not have unmasking authority as Susan Rice as NSA for Obama did. The benign and proper reason for Biden to request the unmasking is to provide a turnover to Pence and his incoming NSA. Sullivan would likely not necessarily be on the dissemination list from Rice's unmasking as dissemination is close hold in my experience. Biden could have been preparing Pence for a transition and here are matters pending that may be of importance for the incoming Vice President and his NSA. Thus, the Obama/Biden turnover to Trump/Pence would have been parallel. Interestingly, Flynn admittedly lied to Pence about his contact with the Russian Ambassador. (In my work I typically did the opposite of "unmasking" by minimizing the name of U.S. Persons when it was not necessary to know the identity in order to understand the intelligence information. Those procedures are governed by the Standard Minimization Procedures (SMPs) which the Attorney General through the DOJ National Security Division proposes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court which then approves the SMPs). And with that benign reason and apparently above board hand off of information, they let Comey’s guys In to interview Flynn without counsel. Right. I assume you took Crim Law & Procedure in law school. And who is "they"? The Trump Administration? You know nothing about proper foreign counterintelligence investigations or everything you learned about FCI is from Fox News. I won't waste my time responding to you anymore. www.lawfareblog.com/why-flynn-interview-was-predicated
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Post by hoyajinx on May 14, 2020 15:04:51 GMT -5
And with that benign reason and apparently above board hand off of information, they let Comey’s guys In to interview Flynn without counsel. Right. I assume you took Crim Law & Procedure in law school. And who is "they"? The Trump Administration? You know nothing about proper foreign counterintelligence investigations or everything you learned about FCI is from Fox News. I won't waste my time responding to you anymore. www.lawfareblog.com/why-flynn-interview-was-predicatedI also don’t understand the argument that he should have be informed he was the subject of an investigation. The same people who applaud tactics by police officers, the least coercive of which is not informing a suspect that they are indeed a suspect during an interview, apparently have a huge problem that this information wasn’t disclosed to Flynn. Also, I’ve seen people throwing around “entrapment” without the foggiest idea as to what that means. These are probably the same people who think undercover officers have to disclosed such information if you ask before you try to sell them drugs. If this somehow constitutes entrapment, then any time an FBI agent asks someone a question to which they already know the answer and that person chooses to lie, that would also constitute entrapment. It’s all just nonsense, but the Trump administration and Fox News know that only a small percentage of his followers will understand any of this, so they keep banging the same misinformation drum and throwing around buzzwords.
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Post by hoya9797 on May 14, 2020 15:52:40 GMT -5
It seems that Trump wants to run against Obama which will surely rile up his base but I’m not so sure that’s a great idea to appeal to the 80% of us who are not white supremacists.
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