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Post by TC on Sept 19, 2018 13:52:54 GMT -5
You guys are wonderful. The intolerance for any opinion other than your own is really a joy to behold. We could be having substantial conversations on this board, where people offer opinions in good faith and discuss issues. Ten years ago, we had that a lot more. You're the one who prevents that. You don't get to continually argue in insincere bad faith, change goal posts, never stick to a principle or opinion and then whine that you're being treated unfairly when people don't want to play your game and call you out. You don't want tolerance or opinion, you just want someone to try to kick the football.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 19, 2018 14:11:46 GMT -5
You guys are wonderful. The intolerance for any opinion other than your own is really a joy to behold. We could be having substantial conversations on this board, where people offer opinions in good faith and discuss issues. Ten years ago, we had that a lot more. You're the one who prevents that. You don't get to continually argue in insincere bad faith, change goal posts, never stick to a principle or opinion and then whine that you're being treated unfairly. You don't want tolerance or opinion, you just want someone to try to kick the football. Check please. And Edited.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 7:34:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 10:02:49 GMT -5
Steve makes a good point about Dr. Ford. If she's lying it doesn't seem make sense that she would be pining for the opportunity to expose herself to criminal charges. Doesn't mean the judge is guilty of anything, but in Anita Hill's case the FBI took 3 days...
Seems foolish for R's not to do this considering the current climate...
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Post by njhoya78 on Sept 20, 2018 11:10:48 GMT -5
Steve makes a good point about Dr. Ford. If she's lying it doesn't seem make sense that she would be pining for the opportunity to expose herself to criminal charges. Doesn't mean the judge is guilty of anything, but in Anita Hill's case the FBI took 3 days... Seems foolish for R's not to do this considering the current climate... They don't care about the current climate. The only thing that the GOP seems to care about is putting a conservative jurist on the bench, and effect an attack on prior "liberal" court decisions such as Roe v. Wade. This can be accomplished with a nominee with less baggage, but the issue now is timing; they may not have the time to "vet" a new nominee before the election, and the votes to confirm another nominee after the election.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 20, 2018 13:33:18 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 20, 2018 13:44:06 GMT -5
How about the $200K in credit card debt that suddenly and mysteriously disappeared? Why isn’t anyone looking closer at that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 14:01:18 GMT -5
How about the $200K in credit card debt that suddenly and mysteriously disappeared? Why isn’t anyone looking closer at that? The baseball tickets? I'm guessing that one is actually innocuous: he fronted for season tickets for a group of people, and they reimbursed him promptly. Probably wanted to use his credit card for the airline points or whatever.
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 20, 2018 19:52:24 GMT -5
There's really not much point in rehashing ancient history, but Robert Bork disqualified himself for a seat on the Supremen Court when he carried out the Saturday Night Massacre. He couldn't have been approved by Democrats for dogcatcher after that. Robert Bork was confirmed by unanimous consent of the United States Senate in 1982 for the D.C. Court of Appeals. While I did not recall this and am somewhat surprised that no Dems voted against Bork at that level, it's still totally apples and oranges, and you know it. The level of scrutiny for a Supreme Court justice exceeds the scrutiny for court of appeals judges by about a thousand fold.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 20, 2018 21:50:15 GMT -5
The latest theory that Dr Ford got confused and mistook Kavanaugh for someone else is a real doozy.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 21, 2018 5:32:46 GMT -5
This is exactly why an FBI investigation may be useful contrary to at least one simplistic opinion posted here. The FBI can interview Whelan and track down the person identified by Whelan and interview the purported attacker. If Whelan is incorrect, isn't he facing a defamation lawsuit? If Whelan is correct, it may exonerate Kavanaugh (although the alleged victim denies any mistaken identification). And of course the GOP and the White House distanced themselves -- it shows how useful an FBI investigation may be. So why is Kavanaugh and the GOP so fearful of the FBI reopening Kavanaugh's background investigation?? Ed Whelan, a former clerk to the late justice Antonin Scalia and president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, pointed to floor plans, online photographs and other information to suggest a location for the house party in suburban Maryland that Ford described. He also named and posted photographs of the classmate he suggested could be responsible. Republicans on Capitol Hill and White House officials immediately sought to distance themselves from Whelan’s claims and said they were not aware of his plans to identify the former classmate, now a middle school teacher, who could not be reached for comment and did not answer the door at his house Thursday night. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-vows-to-move-ahead-with-kavanaugh-vote-if-his-accuser-doesnt-testify-monday/2018/09/20/a7132ee8-bcf5-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.9f3aec7fb7fe
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Post by TC on Sept 21, 2018 8:43:22 GMT -5
How involved was Kavanaugh in this libel?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 8:50:03 GMT -5
Conspiracy Cons....
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 21, 2018 8:57:00 GMT -5
It’s hard to understand why more women don’t come forward with stuff like this. They are treated with so much respect and definitely given the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by TC on Sept 21, 2018 9:01:24 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why, if you're trying to prevent an FBI investigation, you would go and accuse some random middle school teacher to muddy the waters just because you've got yearbook pictures of both of them that look sort of similar? If it were a remotely believable accusation that Whelan were trotting out, wouldn't that increase the need for an FBI investigation?
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 21, 2018 9:07:14 GMT -5
They are definitely acting like people who think there is nothing to see here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 9:08:02 GMT -5
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) on Ford: “mistaken” and “mixed up,”
Deleted it right after Whelan started posting his nutballs doppleganger theory on line.. They say it wasn't coordinated... mmhmm...
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 21, 2018 9:08:58 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 21, 2018 9:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 9:35:27 GMT -5
So basically Republicans are calling free speech bribery.... Can you believe the audacity of this bunch of NON-Billionaires who are using their money to try and get their preferred outcomes? Bribery! Amirite?
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