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Post by SSHoya on Nov 15, 2021 16:38:07 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Nov 15, 2021 19:39:18 GMT -5
At least something passed, for a change, that the majority of voters actually want, regardless of political bent. Democracy is pretty great when the main focus isn't cultivating donors and staying in office. It's almost like democracy should be for the people. |
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 2, 2021 6:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Dec 2, 2021 12:31:15 GMT -5
We know the "issues" Trump supporters actually vote on. If the cognitive dissonance hasn't kicked in prior to this, it certainly won't now. |
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 2, 2021 12:36:43 GMT -5
We know the "issues" Trump supporters actually vote on. If the cognitive dissonance hasn't kicked in prior to this, it certainly won't now. Please note I have promoted Trump from "sociopath" to "psychopath." 😁 |
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Post by tashoya on Dec 2, 2021 12:38:14 GMT -5
We know the "issues" Trump supporters actually vote on. If the cognitive dissonance hasn't kicked in prior to this, it certainly won't now. Please note I have promoted Trump from "sociopath" to "psychopath." 😁 Took you long enough. |
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Post by aleutianhoya on Dec 2, 2021 12:58:38 GMT -5
We know the "issues" Trump supporters actually vote on. If the cognitive dissonance hasn't kicked in prior to this, it certainly won't now. I disagree. There's a long history of voters reacting when something they perceive as negative occurs and punishing the party in charge for it. More simply: If Roe is overturned (either fully or in significant part), far many more pro-choice voters will be galvanized and moved to vote than will pro-life voters who now will be looking to reinforce or reward the new status quo. That's one of American history's enduring political lessons. It's one of the reasons that voters are not likely to reward Democrats or Biden for the social spending programs, even if they have positive effects on the voter's own life. This is all agnostic with respect to whether Roe is good or bad...or the social spending programs are good or bad. Indeed, it's almost the central political tenet of Mitch McConnell's career. Actively try to make EVERYTHING as bad as possible when democrats are in charge (even if that means voting against things you normally would want) so that people turn against the party in charge when things seem bad. |
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Post by tashoya on Dec 3, 2021 8:26:36 GMT -5
We know the "issues" Trump supporters actually vote on. If the cognitive dissonance hasn't kicked in prior to this, it certainly won't now. I disagree. There's a long history of voters reacting when something they perceive as negative occurs and punishing the party in charge for it. More simply: If Roe is overturned (either fully or in significant part), far many more pro-choice voters will be galvanized and moved to vote than will pro-life voters who now will be looking to reinforce or reward the new status quo. That's one of American history's enduring political lessons. It's one of the reasons that voters are not likely to reward Democrats or Biden for the social spending programs, even if they have positive effects on the voter's own life. This is all agnostic with respect to whether Roe is good or bad...or the social spending programs are good or bad. Indeed, it's almost the central political tenet of Mitch McConnell's career. Actively try to make EVERYTHING as bad as possible when democrats are in charge (even if that means voting against things you normally would want) so that people turn against the party in charge when things seem bad. I don't know exactly what the Venn diagram of Trump voters and pro-life people looks like. However, Trump voters have shown that they'll vote party over common sense or personal well being. If there are Trump folks that are pro-choice, I'm betting they're voting party over policy as they have since 2016. |
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 3, 2021 9:49:32 GMT -5
I disagree. There's a long history of voters reacting when something they perceive as negative occurs and punishing the party in charge for it. More simply: If Roe is overturned (either fully or in significant part), far many more pro-choice voters will be galvanized and moved to vote than will pro-life voters who now will be looking to reinforce or reward the new status quo. That's one of American history's enduring political lessons. It's one of the reasons that voters are not likely to reward Democrats or Biden for the social spending programs, even if they have positive effects on the voter's own life. This is all agnostic with respect to whether Roe is good or bad...or the social spending programs are good or bad. Indeed, it's almost the central political tenet of Mitch McConnell's career. Actively try to make EVERYTHING as bad as possible when democrats are in charge (even if that means voting against things you normally would want) so that people turn against the party in charge when things seem bad. I don't know exactly what the Venn diagram of Trump voters and pro-life people looks like. However, Trump voters have shown that they'll vote party over common sense or personal well being. If there are Trump folks that are pro-choice, I'm betting they're voting party over policy as they have since 2016. Venn diagram of the psychopath's voters with White Christian evangelicals would yield same result. |
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Post by TC on Dec 7, 2021 11:50:58 GMT -5
I think this is the perfect juxtaposition - Hillary Clinton did something less secure for the sake of expediency and basically it dominated the headlines for a year.
Kamala Harris chooses a practice that is inherently *more secure* for the sake of security at the expense of her own convenience and POLITICO tries to beat her over the head for it for no good reason.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 20:46:40 GMT -5
The Georgia restructurings are part of a national Republican effort to expand control over election administration in the wake of Trump’s false voter-fraud claims. Republican-led states such as Florida, Texas and Arizona have enacted new curbs on voter access this year. Backers of Trump’s false stolen-election claims are running campaigns for secretary of state - the top election official - in battleground states. And some Republicans in Wisconsin are seeking to eliminate the state’s bipartisan election commission and threatening its members with prosecution. |
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Post by tashoya on Dec 9, 2021 22:10:55 GMT -5
Your "Republican" party: if you lose, screw democracy. Just cheat. Taking "snowflake" to a whole new and authoritarian level. If you continue to support these agendas, while you're continuing to adjust to being called racists, saddle up and get ready to be labeled as traitors. I don't think either label is remotely hyperbolic at this point. We're all watching the slow-moving coup. And, we know the segments of the population that are being targeted with regard to their voting rights and access. We also know that systems are being put in place to help facilitate overturning free and fair elections if the old white folks don't like the results. Voting to support these things is well beyond un-American. Strap in, folks. It's only going to get uglier from here for all of us.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 10, 2021 10:45:47 GMT -5
I'm shocked that Elvado hasn't already posted that jobless claims fell to the lowest level in over 50 years. I know how "concerned" he has been about the labor market.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 10, 2021 11:17:26 GMT -5
I'm shocked that Elvado hasn't already posted that jobless claims fell to the lowest level in over 50 years. I know how "concerned" he has been about the labor market. Self-cancelled like all of our stalwart HoyaTalk "Republicans"? Perhaps they've recognized the folly of repeating Fox "News" talking points (see e.g., Hunter Biden's laptop, Biden leaving Black Hawk helicopters in Afghanistan for the Taliban, CRT, etc). is a sorry substitute for attempting to defend the MAGA GOP cult of White grievance. Also, the labor force participation rate in the US edged up to 61.8 percent in November of 2021 from 61.6 percent in October, the highest since March 2020. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 22:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Dec 13, 2021 0:45:45 GMT -5
Congrats to all HoyaTalk "Republicans" for continuing to participate in repeated attempts to topple American democracy. Are tax cuts, overturning Roe and keeping people of color from voting really THAT important to you all? Apparently, the answer is, "yes." If that's the case, realize that the names you're called are entirely appropriate. And, if you continue to vote for these things, you'll yearn for the halcyon days when you lamented only being called racists.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 13, 2021 8:06:21 GMT -5
Congrats to all HoyaTalk "Republicans" for continuing to participate in repeated attempts to topple American democracy. Are tax cuts, overturning Roe and keeping people of color from voting really THAT important to you all? Apparently, the answer is, "yes." If that's the case, realize that the names you're called are entirely appropriate. And, if you continue to vote for these things, you'll yearn for the halcyon days when you lamented only being called racists. Voter suppression and if that fails, voter nullification. And let's throw children back into poverty. That's their MAGA GOP cult agenda. |
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Post by hoyajinx on Feb 21, 2022 9:57:43 GMT -5
Critical race theory certainly played a role. I’d say Glen ran on education, defending parents, tax reform, creating jobs… But if you wanna keep painting everything you don’t like as racism feel free to do so. It’s a losing strategy. Education lol If you keep ‘em dumb and angry, you keep ‘em Republican. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 10:03:57 GMT -5
He ran on critical race theory and election integrity. So, racism and BS. Feel free to make a counterpoint. Critical race theory certainly played a role. I’d say Glen ran on education, defending parents, tax reform, creating jobs… But if you wanna keep painting everything you don’t like as racism feel free to do so. It’s a losing strategy. Education lol |
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