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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 15, 2018 8:46:20 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 15, 2018 9:19:19 GMT -5
Off topic slightly but does apply to Akok. With kids looking to get exposure and get to the NBA asap, how does Syracuse still pull in high level players? JT3 recruiting was apparently effected by his style of play as it was falsely stated that he played a style that didn't translate to the NBA (Every team in the association has some Princeton principles in their offense). If that's the case, what part of the Syracuse zone translates to the NBA?
This is not meant to rehash JT3'S offense as it definitely needed to be modernized but to put a spotlight on the zone defense that Syracuse only plays which absolutely doesn't translate much to the NBA PNR, PNP, heavy switching to find mismatches game. Yet it doesn't seem to hurt their recruiting? Just a thought...
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Post by chep3 on Aug 15, 2018 9:59:21 GMT -5
Off topic slightly but does apply to Akok. With kids looking to get exposure and get to the NBA asap, how does Syracuse still pull in high level players? JT3 recruiting was apparently effected by his style of play as it was falsely stated that he played a style that didn't translate to the NBA (Every team in the association has some Princeton principles in their offense). If that's the case, what part of the Syracuse zone translates to the NBA? This is not meant to rehash JT3'S offense as it definitely needed to be modernized but to put a spotlight on the zone defense that Syracuse only plays which absolutely doesn't translate much to the NBA PNR, PNP, heavy switching to find mismatches game. Yet it doesn't seem to hurt their recruiting? Just a thought... Jabari Parker: "They don't pay players to play defense." That's obviously not true, but I think a lot of people in high school, college, and early on in the NBA can think that way.
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 15, 2018 20:02:27 GMT -5
stockrisers.com/2018/08/15/1-on-1-with-2019-4-star-elite-two-way-prospect-akok-akok/LJ: Being a great defender. Is that something you take pride in? Akok: Yes I do. Each game my coach challenges me to see how many blocks I can get. Defending leads to offense and that’s what’s won most of our games this summer. LJ: What type of offense do you like to play in? Akok: I like to stretch the floor, shooting three balls, pick and rolls, pick and pops scenarios and just getting to the hoop. LJ: You were offered by Georgetown in April. How is the relationship between you and the Hoyas been since then? Akok: Me and coach Ewing’s relationship been great since April. He talks to me about how Georgetown is a great fit for me and my goals for the future. LJ: Who recruits you from Georgetown? Do you plan to visit? When? Akok: Coach Ewing, I’m going to try to visit Georgetown sometime in the future. LJ: What do you like about Georgetown? Would you place them among your top teams? Akok: Well first off if the players play for a hall of fame coach it doesn’t get better than that. I would say Georgetown is up there with my schools as of right now.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Aug 15, 2018 21:31:22 GMT -5
stockrisers.com/2018/08/15/1-on-1-with-2019-4-star-elite-two-way-prospect-akok-akok/LJ: Being a great defender. Is that something you take pride in? Akok: Yes I do. Each game my coach challenges me to see how many blocks I can get. Defending leads to offense and that’s what’s won most of our games this summer. LJ: What type of offense do you like to play in? Akok: I like to stretch the floor, shooting three balls, pick and rolls, pick and pops scenarios and just getting to the hoop. LJ: You were offered by Georgetown in April. How is the relationship between you and the Hoyas been since then? Akok: Me and coach Ewing’s relationship been great since April. He talks to me about how Georgetown is a great fit for me and my goals for the future. LJ: Who recruits you from Georgetown? Do you plan to visit? When? Akok: Coach Ewing, I’m going to try to visit Georgetown sometime in the future. LJ: What do you like about Georgetown? Would you place them among your top teams? Akok: Well first off if the players play for a hall of fame coach it doesn’t get better than that. I would say Georgetown is up there with my schools as of right now. Others have said it before, but I will reiterate; Georgetown is a successful 2018-2019 campaign away from BLOWING UP on the recruiting trail. These players love Pat and want to play for him. If he can show that he is a winner too, players will come in droves.
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Post by Hoyaholic on Aug 15, 2018 23:50:08 GMT -5
Off topic slightly but does apply to Akok. With kids looking to get exposure and get to the NBA asap, how does Syracuse still pull in high level players? They are chasing the TBT $$$
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Post by kbones17 on Aug 15, 2018 23:56:30 GMT -5
stockrisers.com/2018/08/15/1-on-1-with-2019-4-star-elite-two-way-prospect-akok-akok/LJ: Being a great defender. Is that something you take pride in? Akok: Yes I do. Each game my coach challenges me to see how many blocks I can get. Defending leads to offense and that’s what’s won most of our games this summer. LJ: What type of offense do you like to play in? Akok: I like to stretch the floor, shooting three balls, pick and rolls, pick and pops scenarios and just getting to the hoop. LJ: You were offered by Georgetown in April. How is the relationship between you and the Hoyas been since then? Akok: Me and coach Ewing’s relationship been great since April. He talks to me about how Georgetown is a great fit for me and my goals for the future. LJ: Who recruits you from Georgetown? Do you plan to visit? When? Akok: Coach Ewing, I’m going to try to visit Georgetown sometime in the future. LJ: What do you like about Georgetown? Would you place them among your top teams? Akok: Well first off if the players play for a hall of fame coach it doesn’t get better than that. I would say Georgetown is up there with my schools as of right now. The rest of this article he talks about visits he’s planning to UConn, Syracuse and Providence with much more certainty than when he talked about us. So, I’d say it’s likely a three team race and we’re not one of the three.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 16, 2018 0:21:39 GMT -5
stockrisers.com/2018/08/15/1-on-1-with-2019-4-star-elite-two-way-prospect-akok-akok/LJ: Being a great defender. Is that something you take pride in? Akok: Yes I do. Each game my coach challenges me to see how many blocks I can get. Defending leads to offense and that’s what’s won most of our games this summer. LJ: What type of offense do you like to play in? Akok: I like to stretch the floor, shooting three balls, pick and rolls, pick and pops scenarios and just getting to the hoop. LJ: You were offered by Georgetown in April. How is the relationship between you and the Hoyas been since then? Akok: Me and coach Ewing’s relationship been great since April. He talks to me about how Georgetown is a great fit for me and my goals for the future. LJ: Who recruits you from Georgetown? Do you plan to visit? When? Akok: Coach Ewing, I’m going to try to visit Georgetown sometime in the future. LJ: What do you like about Georgetown? Would you place them among your top teams? Akok: Well first off if the players play for a hall of fame coach it doesn’t get better than that. I would say Georgetown is up there with my schools as of right now. The rest of this article he talks about visits he’s planning to UConn, Syracuse and Providence with much more certainty than when he talked about us. So, I’d say it’s likely a three team race and we’re not one of the three. Yeah this article reminded me of the Hoya247 interview with CJ Walker where he raved about Georgetown and Coach Ewing's Hall of Fame credentials and his desire to visit officially in the fall, only to remove the Hoyas from consideration the next day. The article as a whole leads you to believe that Providence, Syracuse and UCONN are ahead of the Hoyas at this point because they have secured OV's. We will see how it shakes out. Akok Akok interview with Stock Risers
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 16, 2018 16:40:04 GMT -5
The rest of this article he talks about visits he’s planning to UConn, Syracuse and Providence with much more certainty than when he talked about us. So, I’d say it’s likely a three team race and we’re not one of the three. Yeah this article reminded me of the Hoya247 interview with CJ Walker where he raved about Georgetown and Coach Ewing's Hall of Fame credentials and his desire to visit officially in the fall, only to remove the Hoyas from consideration the next day. The article as a whole leads you to believe that Providence, Syracuse and UCONN are ahead of the Hoyas at this point because they have secured OV's. We will see how it shakes out. Akok Akok interview with Stock RisersA friend who's close to the Uconn program says their staff wants Akok more than anyone in 2019, obviously due to his skill & upside but Hurley also wants inroads into the Rivals aau program... He's not as confident as the person who sent the tweet below, however...
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Post by s4hoyas on Aug 16, 2018 22:28:32 GMT -5
Why the hell if you are a big man would you ever want to play for Danny Hurley over Patrick Ewing?
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Post by Elvado on Aug 17, 2018 4:17:19 GMT -5
Perhaps Akok wants to play for a cock...
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 17, 2018 7:36:14 GMT -5
Why the hell if you are a big man would you ever want to play for Danny Hurley over Patrick Ewing? In fairness, Hurley has been recruiting for years now, he has a tried & true pitch to kids.. The thing that jumped out at me about that article is the Akok spoke about assistant coaches for every program except for Gtown, seems that the staff is still working out the recruiting kinks..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 9:04:56 GMT -5
"Akok Akok is a 6-10, 180-pound Power Forward from Putnam, CT.
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 17, 2018 9:29:36 GMT -5
"Akok Akok is a 6-10, 180-pound Power Forward from Putnam, CT. He goes to prep school in CT but he's not a CT kid.. pretty sure he grew up in Mass or New Hampshire before transferring to PSA for his Jr. Year..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 9:32:24 GMT -5
"Akok Akok is a 6-10, 180-pound Power Forward from Putnam, CT. He goes to prep school in CT but he's not a CT kid.. pretty sure he grew up in Mass or New Hampshire before transferring to PSA for his Jr. Year.. Manchester NH. Transferred to Putnam after 2 years of high school in NH.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 9:35:11 GMT -5
"Akok Akok is a 6-10, 180-pound Power Forward from Putnam, CT. He goes to prep school in CT but he's not a CT kid.. pretty sure he grew up in Mass or New Hampshire before transferring to PSA for his Jr. Year.. I know, but look at his list, and look at their proximity to the locations you just mentioned. I know nothing about him personally but it appears to be connected..
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 17, 2018 9:49:55 GMT -5
Why the hell if you are a big man would you ever want to play for Danny Hurley over Patrick Ewing? In fairness, Hurley has been recruiting for years now, he has a tried & true pitch to kids.. The thing that jumped out at me about that article is the Akok spoke about assistant coaches for every program except for Gtown, seems that the staff is still working out the recruiting kinks..I see that completely different. Akok's a rising senior who's being primarily recruited by the Head Coach himself. Not being handed down or split time with an assistant. Typically the head coach takes over recruiting on rising seniors that they are extremely high on to be the closer. The staff didn't offer Akok until April so they were way behind Syracuse and Providence by at minimum a year. UCONN literally has home court advantage and because of that advantage the most familiarity. By Coach Ewing jumping into his recruiting and handling it himself, it tells me Coach Ewing is extremely high on Akok and handling his recruiting himself as the closer since they are at a disadvantage and playing catching up. When Akinjo decommited, it wasn't Coach Orr, Kirby, or Waheed. It was Ewing in Cali as soon as Akinjo's release was granted. With McClung it was the entire staff at his home immediately after his decommit. With LeBlanc we assume it was Coach Kirby and Coach Ewing with an assist from a former player in Owens. You also here all the time how a prospect will commit in the fall and then decommit in the spring when an assistant leaves the program for another job. So there's no exact science in locking down recruits, but the most important relationship is always with the Head Coach. What 17-19 year old recruits infer from who and how they are being recruited by a staff is a completely different conversation...
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 17, 2018 11:07:40 GMT -5
In fairness, Hurley has been recruiting for years now, he has a tried & true pitch to kids.. The thing that jumped out at me about that article is the Akok spoke about assistant coaches for every program except for Gtown, seems that the staff is still working out the recruiting kinks..I see that completely different. Akok's a rising senior who's being primarily recruited by the Head Coach himself. Not being handed down or split time with an assistant. Typically the head coach takes over recruiting on rising seniors that they are extremely high on to be the closer. The staff didn't offer Akok until April so they were way behind Syracuse and Providence by at minimum a year. UCONN literally has home court advantage and because of that advantage the most familiarity. By Coach Ewing jumping into his recruiting and handling it himself, it tells me Coach Ewing is extremely high on Akok and handling his recruiting himself as the closer since they are at a disadvantage and playing catching up. When Akinjo decommited, it wasn't Coach Orr, Kirby, or Waheed. It was Ewing in Cali as soon as Akinjo's release was granted. With McClung it was the entire staff at his home immediately after his home. With LeBlanc we assume it was Coach Kirby and Coach Ewing with an assist from a former player in Owens. You also here all the time how a prospect will commit in the fall and then decommit in the spring when an assistant leaves the program for another job. So there's no exact science in locking down recruits, but the most important relationship is always with the head coach. What 17-19 year old recruits infer from who and how they are being recruited by a staff is a completely different conversation... PE being the lead doesn't mean his assistants can't build solid relationships with these kids too right? You're right that there's not an exact science to recruiting but it can't hurt to have as many staff members as possible trying to build relationships with recruits.. The article reminded me of Whitney saying he really only spoke with Orr during his recruitment. Not trying to say it would have swayed him.. In Akok's case I'll agree that PC & Cuse had a head start but Uconn got in around a similar timeframe to Gtown..
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 17, 2018 12:43:22 GMT -5
I see that completely different. Akok's a rising senior who's being primarily recruited by the Head Coach himself. Not being handed down or split time with an assistant. Typically the head coach takes over recruiting on rising seniors that they are extremely high on to be the closer. The staff didn't offer Akok until April so they were way behind Syracuse and Providence by at minimum a year. UCONN literally has home court advantage and because of that advantage the most familiarity. By Coach Ewing jumping into his recruiting and handling it himself, it tells me Coach Ewing is extremely high on Akok and handling his recruiting himself as the closer since they are at a disadvantage and playing catching up. When Akinjo decommited, it wasn't Coach Orr, Kirby, or Waheed. It was Ewing in Cali as soon as Akinjo's release was granted. With McClung it was the entire staff at his home immediately after his home. With LeBlanc we assume it was Coach Kirby and Coach Ewing with an assist from a former player in Owens. You also here all the time how a prospect will commit in the fall and then decommit in the spring when an assistant leaves the program for another job. So there's no exact science in locking down recruits, but the most important relationship is always with the head coach. What 17-19 year old recruits infer from who and how they are being recruited by a staff is a completely different conversation... PE being the lead doesn't mean his assistants can't build solid relationships with these kids too right? You're right that there's not an exact science to recruiting but it can't hurt to have as many staff members as possible trying to build relationships with recruits.. The article reminded me of Whitney saying he really only spoke with Orr during his recruitment. Not trying to say it would have swayed him.. In Akok's case I'll agree that PC & Cuse had a head start but Uconn got in around a similar timeframe to Gtown.. Kahlil Whitney article from 8/1/18 I mean, who knows with Akok. Most people think he has a stronger relationship with some of those other schools, so maybe that's why he's mentioning the assistant coaches. Maybe he's just closer with Ewing than the Georgetown assistants. Or maybe it's a bigger deal to him that Ewing is talking with him as opposed to the Georgetown assistants that are in contact with him. We know that assistants are out there with Ewing. We see pictures of them with him at tournaments. Even Kirby was in photos on Ewing's infamous California trip to meet with Akinjo. So I'm not sure how much we can infer about the assistant coaches from one article about one recruit.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 17, 2018 13:16:51 GMT -5
I see that completely different. Akok's a rising senior who's being primarily recruited by the Head Coach himself. Not being handed down or split time with an assistant. Typically the head coach takes over recruiting on rising seniors that they are extremely high on to be the closer. The staff didn't offer Akok until April so they were way behind Syracuse and Providence by at minimum a year. UCONN literally has home court advantage and because of that advantage the most familiarity. By Coach Ewing jumping into his recruiting and handling it himself, it tells me Coach Ewing is extremely high on Akok and handling his recruiting himself as the closer since they are at a disadvantage and playing catching up. When Akinjo decommited, it wasn't Coach Orr, Kirby, or Waheed. It was Ewing in Cali as soon as Akinjo's release was granted. With McClung it was the entire staff at his home immediately after his home. With LeBlanc we assume it was Coach Kirby and Coach Ewing with an assist from a former player in Owens. You also here all the time how a prospect will commit in the fall and then decommit in the spring when an assistant leaves the program for another job. So there's no exact science in locking down recruits, but the most important relationship is always with the head coach. What 17-19 year old recruits infer from who and how they are being recruited by a staff is a completely different conversation... PE being the lead doesn't mean his assistants can't build solid relationships with these kids too right? You're right that there's not an exact science to recruiting but it can't hurt to have as many staff members as possible trying to build relationships with recruits.. The article reminded me of Whitney saying he really only spoke with Orr during his recruitment. Not trying to say it would have swayed him.. In Akok's case I'll agree that PC & Cuse had a head start but Uconn got in around a similar timeframe to Gtown..As I previously mentioned UCONN has the location advantage. If you look at what seems to be or reported to be his top 3 schools (Providence, UCONN and Syracuse), they all have proximity to his home in common. It could simply come down to the fact that he wants to stay closer to home. Makai Ashton-Langford's recruitment came down to location and really not much else as he only considered Providence and UCONN and after he decommited from UCONN, he immediately committed to the Friars. In terms of Akok, we will get more insight if location is the major factor in his decision making when he announces his final list and OV scheduled. If he only visits the 3 local ish schools then we know there's nothing Coach Ewing could do to pitch Akok and really get his attention.
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