hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Jan 29, 2021 4:33:09 GMT -5
Every GU center should be able to do it... by practicing it like crazy... It's a very difficult shot but it isn't unteachable. Dikembe's was close and nearly as accurate.
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Post by DallasHoya on Jan 29, 2021 10:06:12 GMT -5
In my opinion, it's one of the finest, most beautiful and indefensible shots in the history of basketball. Agreed. Like of piece of artwork.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 29, 2021 11:50:29 GMT -5
How about underhanded free throws while we’re at it! 😋
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 29, 2021 12:20:20 GMT -5
How about underhanded free throws while we’re at it! 😋 Rick Barry!!
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jan 29, 2021 15:44:23 GMT -5
If you can shoot 85%+ like Rick did - go for it!
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 29, 2021 20:35:22 GMT -5
How about underhanded free throws while we’re at it! 😋 I never understood why Shaq didn't learn the underhanded free throw. He would have averaged 60+ a game with that shot and been completely unstoppable.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 1, 2021 20:02:14 GMT -5
How about underhanded free throws while we’re at it! 😋 I never understood why Shaq didn't learn the underhanded free throw. He would have averaged 60+ a game with that shot and been completely unstoppable. Shaq would have done great if the free throw line were moved to within a foot of the basket.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 3:02:27 GMT -5
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Post by southernhoyafan on Feb 11, 2021 9:48:46 GMT -5
Dikembe Mutombo’s Legacy Continues Through Son www.ajc.com/sports/high-school-sports-blog/mutombos-legacy-continues-through-son/3NFPS7SOMFEKXOTXTDH2JJIBP4/Dikembe Mutombo parlayed his time at Georgetown (1988-91) into an 18-year NBA career that culminated with an induction into the Basketball Hall of Fame as part of the 2015 class. His son, Ryan Mutombo, finds himself on the same path to the pros, having signed his letter of intent to play at Georgetown. Mutombo, a senior at Lovett, is 6-foot-11 and rated by the 247Sports Composite as the No. 16 center in country. Although the comparisons with his father are constant and obvious, Ryan is determined to put his own stamp on the Mutombo basketball legacy, and he’s willing to put in the work. In addition to playing for the Lions, ranked No. 4 in Class 2A, he is working with different personal coaches and strength trainers on his time. As soon as he gets out of bed, he knocks out 500 squats. He does 200-300 push-ups throughout the day. His before-school workouts run from 5:20-7:30 a.m. Dikembe Mutombo, who played for the Hawks, even recalls instances where Ryan woke up around 1 a.m., unable to sleep, and knocked out a quick workout before going back to bed. “I understand that the NBA is the elite of the elite, and I’m nowhere near where I want to be yet,” Ryan said. “It’s the little stuff that’s going to get you to the next level because it builds character, and ultimately it’s what the greats do. So as far as waking up at 1 a.m., or 5:20 a.m., that’s what I enjoy about the game. It’s all part of the process, and I love it.” When Ryan gets to Georgetown, he’ll have a familiar face coaching him — Patrick Ewing, another Hall of Fame center who played for Georgetown before embarking on a 17-year NBA career, mostly with the New York Knicks. In fact, Ewing served as a mentor for Dikembe throughout his basketball career. Ewing is such as fixture in the Mutombos’ lives that Ryan refers to him as “Uncle Ewing.” “He used to call him that, but now he has to call him coach Ewing,” Ryan’s dad said with a laugh. “(Ewing) took me in and carried me to the promised land. He taught me the game and work ethic, and really embraced me like I was his brother.” Said Ryan: “I have the opportunity to be coached by a Hall of Famer in Patrick Ewing. At the end of the day, that’s a culture I couldn’t pass on being a part of. I consider him extended family and now he’s my coach. ... He’s really just focused on helping me get better now, which I really appreciate.” Mutombo’s primary mission at Georgetown is to get to the NBA as quickly as possible. He also listed his goals as making the starting five, being in contention for Big East freshman of the year, winning a conference title and earning a reputation for being one of the country’s best defenders. “All of that, I feel, is within my grasp,” he said. “I’m just excited to get up to D.C. and get to work.” He’s also won’t be shy about declaring for the draft after his freshman season if the opportunity arises. He will enter Georgetown undeclared on a major — he’s interested in a health-studies degree — and evaluate his draft stock after his freshman year. “Whether you’re a late first-rounder or early second-rounder, you definitely want to be in that (NBA) environment, if that’s your goal,” Mutombo said, “because if you stay in college for a long time, you never know what could happen. You could get injured. New players come along and you lose your focus. So if you’re really serious about the NBA, then you’ll take the opportunity to go when you can, for sure.” Mutombo’s skill set is on par with the versatility now required at the center position in the NBA and its rules shifting toward it being a faster-pace, guard-oriented league. His perimeter game and ball-handling skills are beyond those of his father’s, so it’s on defense where he hopes to improve most between now and a potential NBA career. Ewing and Dikembe, who possessed the traditional big-man skills on defense, rebounding and post-up offense, can help Ryan with that. “I want him to become the best defender as possible because that’s what will take him to the next level,” Dikembe said. “He continues to learn the game and imitate a lot of the things his father was able to do defensively. That’s something that brings me joy watching him. “I’m proud of him.”
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 11, 2021 12:18:27 GMT -5
"Mutombo’s primary mission at Georgetown is to get to the NBA as quickly as possible. He also listed his goals as making the starting five, being in contention for Big East freshman of the year, winning a conference title and earning a reputation for being one of the country’s best defenders.
“All of that, I feel, is within my grasp,” he said. “I’m just excited to get up to D.C. and get to work.”
He’s also won’t be shy about declaring for the draft after his freshman season if the opportunity arises. He will enter Georgetown undeclared on a major — he’s interested in a health-studies degree — and evaluate his draft stock after his freshman year.
“Whether you’re a late first-rounder or early second-rounder, you definitely want to be in that (NBA) environment, if that’s your goal,” Mutombo said, “because if you stay in college for a long time, you never know what could happen." Unpopular opinion but... Is anyone annoyed at this comment? I appreciate enthusiasm, but if your stated "primary mission" at Georgetown is to be a one and done, maybe Georgetown isn't that place, especially with where this program is right now. There's a more than likely chance he's not starting in 2021-22. Ewing is not sitting Qudus Wahab to accommodate Ryan Mutombo's NBA ambitions, and arguably, if Tim Ighoefe can somehow pick up the pace, Ryan could arrive behind him as well. Not starting means you're not likely to be BE freshman of the year, and if you're Aminu Mohammed or Jordan Hawkins or Ty-Ty Washington, they might have something to say about that, too and I'll add Jordan Riley to that list. Being #104 on the Rivals.com list is not a ticket to the elite upon entrance, and if Ryan can contribute with 8 ppg and 5 rpg, great. If he thinks he's the next Zion Williamson, Ewing will have some problems ahead of him. Next season is going to be a very contentious year regardless. Georgetown needs players who put the "we" before the "I", otherwise, it's going to be a wreck.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 11, 2021 12:23:30 GMT -5
"utombo’s primary mission at Georgetown is to get to the NBA as quickly as possible. He also listed his goals as making the starting five, being in contention for Big East freshman of the year, winning a conference title and earning a reputation for being one of the country’s best defenders.
“All of that, I feel, is within my grasp,” he said. “I’m just excited to get up to D.C. and get to work.”
He’s also won’t be shy about declaring for the draft after his freshman season if the opportunity arises. He will enter Georgetown undeclared on a major — he’s interested in a health-studies degree — and evaluate his draft stock after his freshman year.
“Whether you’re a late first-rounder or early second-rounder, you definitely want to be in that (NBA) environment, if that’s your goal,” Mutombo said, “because if you stay in college for a long time, you never know what could happen" Unpopular opinion but... Is anyone annoyed at this comment? I appreciate enthusiasm, but if your stated "primary mission" at Georgetown is to be a one and done, maybe Georgetown isn't that place, especially with where this program is right now. There's a more than likely chance he's not starting in 2021-22. Ewing is not sitting Qudus Wahab to accommodate Ryan Mutombo's NBA ambitions, and arguably, if Tim Ighoefe can somehow pick up the pace, Ryan could arrive behind him as well. Not starting means you're not likely to be BE freshman of the year, and if you're Aminu Mohammed or Jordan Hawkins or Ty-Ty Washington, they might have something to say about that, too and I'll add Jordan Riley to that list. Being #104 on the Rivals.com list is not a ticket to the elite upon entrance, and if Ryan can contribute with 8 ppg and 5 rpg, great. If he thinks he's the next Zion Williamson, Ewing will have some problems ahead of him. Next season is going to be a very contentious year regardless. Georgetown needs players who put the "we" before the "I", otherwise, it's going to be a wreck. I see him as a 4-year player, but wish him to reach his goal. He would need to improve so much to be a starter, but I like the attitude and he's working for it with pro trainers so who knows. If he wins the starting spot from Q, it means that the team will be that much better. As of now, I'm not even sure he's Q's back-up at C or whether he can play 4 to be that starter. Would the NCAA allow him to keep his trainer(s) around once he's at GU during the school year (i.e., help him practice during off hours during the season)? Finally, under Pat, Aminu will play more than any other frosh in the league. I can see him playin 35 mpg if he's up to it or not. He'll have so much playing time compared to Ryan that I would put Aminu as the front-runner for the BE Rookie award over all league rookies. But, best wishes to Ryan because the more Hoyas in the BE Rookie team, the merrier...
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 11, 2021 12:31:26 GMT -5
If Ryan thinks his D will be the butter for his bread in the NBA, then he should have the ability to guard bigger college 4s. I don't fault him for any of those statements but I assume that any considerations of the NBA after FR year would quickly lead to the decision to return. Ryan clearly has lofty goals and has the work effort to achieve it, lets let him prove it on the court.
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Post by trotters10 on Feb 11, 2021 12:32:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I find Ryan can often toe-the-line on being confident, and then mildly ignorant. Most of the time it comes off as he's a confident guy who believes in his abilities (which is great). But on this occasion it came off pretty arrogant to openly state your intention is to get to the NBA, as a one-and-done if possible. No mention of playing for the team and the name on the front of the jersey.
I personally did not like these comments from Ryan, but I've seen other interview snippets where he doesn't really talk like this, so it's hard to say he's solely focused on just himself. I still like his work ethic to be the best player he can be, which is great. He'll probably be an upgrade over Tim and Malcolm next year based on his basketball IQ alone, but doubtful he'll start over Qudus. Compare it to Aminu who's a 5-star, but Aminu only ever talks about helping Georgetown and being whatever they need him to be. Aminu clearly has NBA intentions, but he also doesn't seem to come out and just openly state it. Confident on the court, humble off it though seems to be a rarity these days.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 11, 2021 12:55:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I find Ryan can often toe-the-line on being confident, and then mildly ignorant. Most of the time it comes off as he's a confident guy who believes in his abilities (which is great). But on this occasion it came off pretty arrogant to openly state your intention is to get to the NBA, as a one-and-done if possible. No mention of playing for the team and the name on the front of the jersey. I personally did not like these comments from Ryan, but I've seen other interview snippets where he doesn't really talk like this, so it's hard to say he's solely focused on just himself. I still like his work ethic to be the best player he can be, which is great. He'll probably be an upgrade over Tim and Malcolm next year based on his basketball IQ alone, but doubtful he'll start over Qudus. Compare it to Aminu who's a 5-star, but Aminu only ever talks about helping Georgetown and being whatever they need him to be. Aminu clearly has NBA intentions, but he also doesn't seem to come out and just openly state it. Confident on the court, humble off it though seems to be a rarity these days. On some level I assume all these kids are pretty delusional. I heard rumors Mikael Hopkins family thought he was one and done. Reality is a bitch. The only NBA centers are stretch players or rim running shot blockers. It is tougher and tougher to make it as a big. Just ask Jahlil Okafor and that guy was a consensus top 10 player entering Duke. I hope he works his butt off but I also hope his dad is in his ear about the reality of getting to the NBA. Enjoy college kids and develop.
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Post by kbones17 on Feb 11, 2021 13:38:35 GMT -5
Based on this article I think Ryan is in for a rude awakening.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 13:49:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I find Ryan can often toe-the-line on being confident, and then mildly ignorant. Most of the time it comes off as he's a confident guy who believes in his abilities (which is great). But on this occasion it came off pretty arrogant to openly state your intention is to get to the NBA, as a one-and-done if possible. No mention of playing for the team and the name on the front of the jersey. I personally did not like these comments from Ryan, but I've seen other interview snippets where he doesn't really talk like this, so it's hard to say he's solely focused on just himself. I still like his work ethic to be the best player he can be, which is great. He'll probably be an upgrade over Tim and Malcolm next year based on his basketball IQ alone, but doubtful he'll start over Qudus. Compare it to Aminu who's a 5-star, but Aminu only ever talks about helping Georgetown and being whatever they need him to be. Aminu clearly has NBA intentions, but he also doesn't seem to come out and just openly state it. Confident on the court, humble off it though seems to be a rarity these days. On some level I assume all these kids are pretty delusional. I heard rumors Mikael Hopkins family thought he was one and done. Reality is a bitch. The only NBA centers are stretch players or rim running shot blockers. It is tougher and tougher to make it as a big. Just ask Jahlil Okafor and that guy was a consensus top 10 player entering Duke. I hope he works his butt off but I also hope his dad is in his ear about the reality of getting to the NBA. Enjoy college kids and develop. The funny part about the Mikael anecdote is that was probably his best chance to get drafted (after FR yr). He wasn't exactly a household name, but he was a top 100 kid who played behind some good bigs on a pretty solid Hoya team. And physically -- he certainly wasn't your average 19 year old. I remember in one of those limited FR appearances, he spun left and banked a hook off glass from about 8ft. Very polished -- Duncan-esque, even. And then... AFA Ryan goes... meh. Nothing wrong with a healthy ego & big dreams. He's a very big fish in a small pond right now. Maybe he just needs a dose of battling Q & Big Tim in practice for a couple of months. I can't imagine he'll be a prima donna about it. He'll work as hard as he needs to to be successful here.
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 11, 2021 16:09:37 GMT -5
I don't mind what Ryan said at all. That is what I expect all Top 100ish players to think. Hopefully he doesn't play selfishly and doesn't compete with his teammates. I don't believe he's 1nD but I do hope he can beat out Tim for backup minutes. He doesn't have to start to get noticed..... Unlike Q and Tim, Ryan should have been getting real training on how to work in the paint....
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Post by jester on Feb 11, 2021 16:43:02 GMT -5
Vernon Carey too - #3 ranked player, went to Duke, put up 18 ppg/ 8 reb/ 38% from 3, didnt even get drafted in first round, has played a total of 6 minutes in NBA. Its not easy for the big guys. I am sure Carey was envisioning playing minutes by now too.
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 13, 2021 10:33:57 GMT -5
If Ryan does meet that stated goal and goes to the NBA after his FR year that means we've had an amazing year. If we've had that kind of year, to me that means that Beard, Aminu, Riley, and Ryan all showed out fab 5 style.
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Post by bigelephant on Feb 13, 2021 10:49:54 GMT -5
Ditto
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