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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 12, 2018 10:49:40 GMT -5
Others beat me to posting the stats (and KenPom should be updating soon with preliminary 2019 rankings, which will help us get a sense of how our schedule compares to everyone else's), but to me, a few things are clear:
(1) The schedule is better than last season but that's a low bar.
(2) The Illinois game, which is one of the best additions, is something we were bound to get in some form since we had to have a Gavitt game. Still, it's a much improved game than what we had last year.
(3) The tournament in Jamaica is an improvement over last year's MEAC/SWAC games and our 5+ games against awful teams, but it's still one of the weaker tournaments. Maybe Ewing wanted it that way, but in future years, we need to move on to the more premiere events. We certainly shouldn't be scared of these even though they are early tests. Pulling out of the Nike tournament still bothers me.
(4) The games against Little Rock, Liberty, Richmond, and Appalachian State are okay and the types of games we should fill out the edges of the schedule with.
(5) We should not play Howard and Eastern Shore. We should never play a team that's ranked 349. Or anything close to that (let's keep the numbers in the 200s and above?). Yes, I realize that JT3 even scheduled a few of those games in his last couple of years (though he counterbalanced it with very tough games, which we largely do not have) but those games really have little use and they drag down stats examined for tournament selection.
Overall, I am happy it's an improved schedule on last year. At least, unlike last year, it doesn't essentially disqualify us from Day 1, but it's also not doing us a ton of favors if we are on the bubble or looking for a better seed to avoid a play-in game. Still, if we can get some wins and finish over .500 in the Big East, we can probably make the tournament.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Sept 12, 2018 13:07:24 GMT -5
Others beat me to posting the stats (and KenPom should be updating soon with preliminary 2019 rankings, which will help us get a sense of how our schedule compares to everyone else's), but to me, a few things are clear: (1) The schedule is better than last season but that's a low bar. (2) The Illinois game, which is one of the best additions, is something we were bound to get in some form since we had to have a Gavitt game. Still, it's a much improved game than what we had last year. (3) The tournament in Jamaica is an improvement over last year's MEAC/SWAC games and our 5+ games against awful teams, but it's still one of the weaker tournaments. Maybe Ewing wanted it that way, but in future years, we need to move on to the more premiere events. We certainly shouldn't be scared of these even though they are early tests. Pulling out of the Nike tournament still bothers me. On #2: Next year we should have a home Gavitt game (against a better Big 10 team). Also, I haven't heard anything lately, but there were rumors of a Big East/Big 12 challenge, which would be a nice addition. On #3: The tournament is better than a bunch of weak home games, but it's probably one of the weakest tournaments in the country, and our four opponents are all in the bottom half (or Campbell is actually the 7th toughest) of our 13 games. A better tourney would do wonders. I wonder if (and hope that) Ewing was just late to the party in getting involved in tournaments for this season. If the rumored tournament with Duke/Texas/Cal comes into being for next year, that'd be a good addition. Progress made, more to be done.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 12, 2018 14:24:56 GMT -5
I presume, without having knowledge, that there was huge pressure on Patrick from the "home folks" in Jamaica to participate in their tourney; it will earn the young tournament more media attention than it would otherwise get, and could help it become more prominent over the next couple of years. I have zero problem with Patrick making Jamaica our first tournament destination.
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Post by charlietao on Sept 12, 2018 14:48:35 GMT -5
Just curious about how the OOC schedules are made. Are they usually made via mutual interest of both schools, cold calls, or coaches' connections? Also a selfish question. Just curious when Hoyas will be able to come to play UCLA and USC at Los Angeles in future OOC schedule. I notice we last played UCLA at MSG in 12-13 season, and have never played USC before.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 12, 2018 15:28:25 GMT -5
Just curious about how the OOC schedules are made. Are they usually made via mutual interest of both schools, cold calls, or coaches' connections? Also a selfish question. Just curious when Hoyas will be able to come to play UCLA and USC at Los Angeles in future OOC schedule. I notice we last played UCLA at MSG in 12-13 season, and have never played USC before. "When" or "If". Two very different things.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Sept 12, 2018 15:58:47 GMT -5
Just curious about how the OOC schedules are made. Are they usually made via mutual interest of both schools, cold calls, or coaches' connections? Also a selfish question. Just curious when Hoyas will be able to come to play UCLA and USC at Los Angeles in future OOC schedule. I notice we last played UCLA at MSG in 12-13 season, and have never played USC before. I always prayed they would play at George Mason when I went to school there lol.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 12, 2018 16:09:45 GMT -5
(5) We should not play Howard and Eastern Shore. We should never play a team that's ranked 349. Or anything close to that (let's keep the numbers in the 200s and above?). I think Howard will be in the 200s by season's end.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 12, 2018 16:22:10 GMT -5
I can live with one local cupcake a season, but we don't need two.
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Post by calhoya on Sept 12, 2018 17:11:48 GMT -5
No one enjoyed the tougher schedule of JT III more than me, but it's time for a reality check. This is very much a team in transition and while there is more talent than last year, it is mostly very young talent. Govan, Johnson and Mosley are experienced. Everyone else that will play is either a freshman or sophomore, with the exception of a mature Mourning, who likely has less career playing time than two of the sophomores, and the transfer Malinowski, who sat out last year.
I think that this is a team that needs to develop chemistry and confidence in the OOC portion of the schedule. I would not be surprised if there are not some serious growing pains and 2-3 losses in the pre-conference schedule while adjustments are made.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 12, 2018 17:50:18 GMT -5
Just curious about how the OOC schedules are made. Are they usually made via mutual interest of both schools, cold calls, or coaches' connections? Also a selfish question. Just curious when Hoyas will be able to come to play UCLA and USC at Los Angeles in future OOC schedule. I notice we last played UCLA at MSG in 12-13 season, and have never played USC before. Most recent Georgetown visit by the nation's 20 largest media markets: 1. New York: 2017-18 2. Los Angeles: 2009-10 3. Chicago: 2017-18 4. Dallas-Fort Worth: Never (scheduled in 2019-20) 5. Houston: 2000-01 6. Washington: 2017-18 7. Miami: 2016-17 8. Philadelphia: 2017-18 9. Atlanta: 2006-07 10. Boston: 2004-05 11. Phoenix: 1992-93 12. San Francisco: 1999-2000 13. Detroit: 1978-79 14. Seattle: 1983-84 15. Minneapolis-St. Paul: 2005-06 16. San Diego: 1980-81 17. Tampa-St. Petersburg: 2012-13 18. Denver: Never 19. Baltimore: 1985-86 20. St. Louis: 1971-72
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Post by boxout05 on Sept 12, 2018 18:49:20 GMT -5
Schedule is a definite upgrade. In a vacuum, I don't think anyone would say it's awful nor would anyone boast about playing a murderers row. However, I think it seems like a let down because it was shaping up as the type of schedule everyone wanted, and then the last two teams named were 330+ clunkers. If you subbed out one of them for a team that finished 75 spots higher, that'd obviously be much better. Even if the mix of teams was the same, but Howard was disclosed two weeks ago and we just heard about, say, App State, it wouldn't leave a bad taste.
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Post by blueandgray on Sept 13, 2018 0:30:06 GMT -5
Just curious about how the OOC schedules are made. Are they usually made via mutual interest of both schools, cold calls, or coaches' connections? Also a selfish question. Just curious when Hoyas will be able to come to play UCLA and USC at Los Angeles in future OOC schedule. I notice we last played UCLA at MSG in 12-13 season, and have never played USC before. Most recent Georgetown visit by the nation's 20 largest media markets: 1. New York: 2017-18 2. Los Angeles: 2009-10 3. Chicago: 2017-18 4. Dallas-Fort Worth: Never (scheduled in 2019-20) 5. Houston: 2000-01 6. Washington: 2017-18 7. Miami: 2016-17 8. Philadelphia: 2017-18 9. Atlanta: 2006-07 10. Boston: 2004-05 11. Phoenix: 1992-93 12. San Francisco: 1999-2000 13. Detroit: 1978-79 14. Seattle: 1983-84 15. Minneapolis-St. Paul: 2005-06 16. San Diego: 1980-81 17. Tampa-St. Petersburg: 2012-13 18. Denver: Never 19. Baltimore: 1985-86 20. St. Louis: 1971-72 Didn’t we play in Atlanta in 2007? Corrected.--Admin
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Post by BigmanU on Sept 13, 2018 7:59:41 GMT -5
This is essentially Ewing's first team of his own. He has his hand chosen backcourt of Akinjo & McClung. Both are freshman who will go through growing pains, the team will be as good as they can carry it. He's trying to give them time to grow, why would he play a murderer's row schedule. One step up the ladder scheduling this year and I'm fine with that.
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Post by bigelephant on Sept 13, 2018 8:37:04 GMT -5
This is essentially Ewing's first team of his own. He has his hand chosen backcourt of Akinjo & McClung. Both are freshman who will go through growing pains, the team will be as good as they can carry it. He's trying to give them time to grow, why would he play a murderer's row schedule. One step up the ladder scheduling this year and I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that and agree with you.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 13, 2018 9:30:56 GMT -5
(5) We should not play Howard and Eastern Shore. We should never play a team that's ranked 349. Or anything close to that (let's keep the numbers in the 200s and above?). I think Howard will be in the 200s by season's end. I hope so. Under Kevin Nickelberry, Howard has only been above 300 once (259 in 2015), so that would mean it was one of Howard's better teams in the last 10-20 years.
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Post by drquigley on Sept 13, 2018 11:26:50 GMT -5
I think Howard will be in the 200s by season's end. I hope so. Under Kevin Nickelberry, Howard has only been above 300 once (259 in 2015), so that would mean it was one of Howard's better teams in the last 10-20 years. Saw the Howard guards play at Kenner. This definitely will be one of Howards better teams and I guarantee those guards will give us a hard time.
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Post by seaweed on Sept 13, 2018 11:56:30 GMT -5
(5) We should not play Howard and Eastern Shore. We should never play a team that's ranked 349. Or anything close to that (let's keep the numbers in the 200s and above?). I think Howard will be in the 200s by season's end. Let's just hope they don't climb the rankings on the basis of an away win at GU...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 12:12:10 GMT -5
Villanova home is on a Wednesday at 6:30pm.
Terrible for fans. Great if you don't want anybody to see us get creamed.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 13, 2018 12:17:53 GMT -5
Only three Saturday home games while classes are in session:
1/12: Providence 2/9: Butler 3/2: Seton Hall
A rough year for ticket revenue.
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Post by BigmanU on Sept 13, 2018 12:20:32 GMT -5
Only three Saturday home games while classes are in session: 1/12: Providence 2/9: Butler 3/2: Seton Hall A rough year for ticket revenue. What's the normal amount of Saturday home games?
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