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Post by LCPolo18 on Sept 7, 2018 10:55:11 GMT -5
I haven't seen any TV info listed yet? Me neither, but all of the games in Jamaica last year were broadcast on CBS Sports Network. |
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Post by geedell on Sept 7, 2018 14:21:03 GMT -5
Everyone seems a lot more impressed with the SOS then me. I will take your word for it that it will be worth watching and not hurt our chances to make the NCAA's. I haven't seen anyone say they're impressed with it. Speaking personally, I wouldn't say I'm impressed, so much as relieved that it's not as terrible as last year. It's at the edge of what I'd consider acceptable for a coach's second year in a rebuilding program, and I think if we can finished 10-1 (or 9-2) against this schedule, a 10-8 BE result would put us on the right side of the bubble. I wanted to see improvement from last year's schedule, and I see it. If there's a similar leap in next year's schedule, that will be something to get excited about. Today, On September 7, I predict if you finish 10-8 with in the Big East and 12-1 against this schedule you will be in the NIT. The league is down. You’d have to go 12-6 to feel comfortable on Selection Sunday with this schedule. It is indeed considerably better than last years, but right now the only team predicted to be an at-large is Syracuse and under a 12-1 scenario that’s likely the only game you lose. If you think you have a chance at the Big Dance, this schedule isn’t good enough. |
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Post by GUJook97 on Sept 7, 2018 14:31:00 GMT -5
Why would you say the league is down?
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Post by BigmanU on Sept 7, 2018 15:15:01 GMT -5
I haven't seen anyone say they're impressed with it. Speaking personally, I wouldn't say I'm impressed, so much as relieved that it's not as terrible as last year. It's at the edge of what I'd consider acceptable for a coach's second year in a rebuilding program, and I think if we can finished 10-1 (or 9-2) against this schedule, a 10-8 BE result would put us on the right side of the bubble. I wanted to see improvement from last year's schedule, and I see it. If there's a similar leap in next year's schedule, that will be something to get excited about. Today, On September 7, I predict if you finish 10-8 with in the Big East and 12-1 against this schedule you will be in the NIT. The league is down. You’d have to go 12-6 to feel comfortable on Selection Sunday with this schedule. It is indeed considerably better than last years, but right now the only team predicted to be an at-large is Syracuse and under a 12-1 scenario that’s likely the only game you lose. If you think you have a chance at the Big Dance, this schedule isn’t good enough. No matter if the league isn't as strong as last year, 10-8 definitely gets us in with a 12-1 OOC. The only way it doesn't is if the whole league collectively craps the bed during the OOC portion of their respective seasons, which I doubt. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 7, 2018 15:31:26 GMT -5
I haven't seen anyone say they're impressed with it. Speaking personally, I wouldn't say I'm impressed, so much as relieved that it's not as terrible as last year. It's at the edge of what I'd consider acceptable for a coach's second year in a rebuilding program, and I think if we can finished 10-1 (or 9-2) against this schedule, a 10-8 BE result would put us on the right side of the bubble. I wanted to see improvement from last year's schedule, and I see it. If there's a similar leap in next year's schedule, that will be something to get excited about. Today, On September 7, I predict if you finish 10-8 with in the Big East and 12-1 against this schedule you will be in the NIT. The league is down. You’d have to go 12-6 to feel comfortable on Selection Sunday with this schedule. It is indeed considerably better than last years, but right now the only team predicted to be an at-large is Syracuse and under a 12-1 scenario that’s likely the only game you lose. If you think you have a chance at the Big Dance, this schedule isn’t good enough. 11-7 in the Big East absolutely gets us in, probably 10-8. Our conference may be down a little overall (then again, how many times had that been predicted only to end up with 5 or 6 teams in the tourney?), but 10 wins would almost assuredly include a few solid wins and would be enough. Just remember how many incredibly mediocre teams have made the tourney as 10 or 11 seeds the last few years. |
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Post by geedell on Sept 7, 2018 15:51:48 GMT -5
Oklahoma St was left out last season.
They had 8 wins vs the field including a non-conference win against Florida St. They beat Kansas TWICE.
They even played Arkansas, Wichita St and Texas A&M our of conference.
Their non conference SOS was still 240 and they didn’t get in out of THAT league.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 15:55:32 GMT -5
Let's wait for the whole schedule before we have never-ending debates about the 5% chance that we land squarely on the bubble.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 7, 2018 16:39:16 GMT -5
Oklahoma St was left out last season. They had 8 wins vs the field including a non-conference win against Florida St. They beat Kansas TWICE. They even played Arkansas, Wichita St and Texas A&M our of conference. Their non conference SOS was still 240 and they didn’t get in out of THAT league. Tbh...they were flat out ROBBED by the committee. Arizona St, UCLA, and Oklahoma off the top of my head were very questionable entries at best over OK St. Also last season bubble wasn't as deep as most seasons are. We will see how this NET system and the schedule ends up working out.... |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 7, 2018 17:51:32 GMT -5
As anybody reading this thread over the last year would know, I hated last year's schedule. This year's is definitely an improvement so far - still on the weaker side, but improved from last season. It's a good step in the right direction and shows (I think) that Ewing gets it and knows he cannot schedule like it's 1984. I like that there are more low 100 games and higher 200 games than the bottom 20 teams (largely SWAC/MEAC). It would be a shame if we end up filling out the schedule with a few of the SWAC/MEAC types, because if we avoid that, our strength of schedule - while not super strong - should be a good bit stronger than last season. It's certainly a step in the right direction.
Unless the Big East really collapses, 10-8 should be enough for most Big East teams to get into the tournament. The bubble is always super weak. Is there a chance we could get screwed by the tournament committee? Of course, but in reality the bubble isn't all that strong so hopefully it won't be a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 13:41:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 13:54:18 GMT -5
Other than the fact that they're local teams/games, those are about the 2 worst games we could have added.
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Post by hoyalaw33 on Sept 10, 2018 13:56:17 GMT -5
Not impressed. If we miss the tournament because of our schedule.... What is Ewing thinking?
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Post by LCPolo18 on Sept 10, 2018 14:05:10 GMT -5
We should be able to start piecing more together from other schools that announce their schedules earlier than we do. There are currently 162 schools which have not released their schedule. Taking out major conference schools which are not going to take a guarantee game and/or travel to Washington in December, and WCC and WAC schools who are not traveling east in December, you're down to 130 schools for six home games. The usual suspects are still on the clock. My guesses: 1) Howard 2) UMES 3) Savannah St. 4) Western Carolina 5) Liberty 6) Jackson St. 3 out of 6 is pretty solid! |
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Post by BigmanU on Sept 10, 2018 14:24:13 GMT -5
Not impressed. If we miss the tournament because of our schedule.... What is Ewing thinking? Win every damn OOC game, what's the problem? |
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Post by prhoya on Sept 10, 2018 14:43:24 GMT -5
I’ll wait for 2003’s schedule breakdown, but I like that we have two games before Illinois. Hopefully some of the teams we play before Syracuse were picked because they play zone defense.
I thought all BE teams were playing on Dec. 29th.
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Post by CountAardvark on Sept 10, 2018 14:46:34 GMT -5
Someone help me understand...I thought we wanted to make the tourney this year.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Sept 10, 2018 14:49:40 GMT -5
Here's the official press release.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Sept 10, 2018 15:26:55 GMT -5
A quick comparison of last year to this year's announced OOC schedule:
2017-18:
41 Syracuse
146 North Texas
181 @richmond
238 Mount St. Mary's
306 NC A&T
320 Jacksonville
332 Maine
335 Howard
347 Coppin State
349 UMES
351 Alabama A&M
Median Opponent: #320 Jacksonville
Avg Opponent KenPom rank: #268
2018-19:
41 @ Syracuse
84 SMU
102 @ Illinois
181 Richmond
184 Liberty
208 Appalachian State
218 Campbell
234 vs Loyola Marymount
279 vs South Florida
296 Arkansas Little Rock
310 Central Connecticut State
339 Howard
349 UMES
Median Opponent: #218 Campbell
Avg Opponent KenPom Rank: 217
A few thoughts:
-- One year later, it's even more depressing to lay out last season's schedule, because I don't have to look at it through rose colored glasses. This year's is a definite upgrade, even if it's not yet to where many of us (myself included) would like to see it.
-- We're going from 3 top-200 teams to 5. And from 4 top-250 teams to 8.
-- We're going from 10 home games and 1 road game to 9 home, 2 away, and 2 neutral.
-- We're dropping from 7 300+-ranked KenPom opponents to 3.
-- #238 Mount St. Mary's was the 4th toughest game on last year's schedule. This season, they'd be the 9th toughest.
Gradual progress, but still progress. Is it a great schedule for a team looking to make noise in the NCAA Tournament? No. Is it an okay schedule for a team that was 15-15 with a #161 RPI last year to show progress? Sure.
It's acceptable to me, mostly because of how much better than last year's schedule it is. It's not an end stage, but it's not the punchline schedule of last year, and it gives us a shot at the tournament if we finish above 500 in conference. Not a great shot, but a shot.
If we had a base schedule like this next year but with:
-a better tournament (which would replace 4 lower-half teams in this year's schedule)
-2 marquee-ish home games (Big 10 challenge, and Cuse or someone to replace them),
-a road game at SMU and maybe one other...
I'd be happy.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Sept 10, 2018 15:29:14 GMT -5
Frustrating to say the least. Needed one more even decent high major. Just leaves no room for error anywhere. On top of that, it doesn't really give any more excitement to come to a home game and build some excitement back in the city for the squad. Ugh.
On the plus side (if I can even say that) if this is a bubble team and they miss out because of SOS, will be impossible for Ewing to ignore going forward.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 10, 2018 15:30:22 GMT -5
Solid schedule- there is a legitimate need to balance practice-level games and true tests.
If we miss the NCAAs, I will not second-guess the schedule for one second; I will wish that we won more games on the schedule.
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