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Post by blueandgray on Mar 3, 2020 21:29:14 GMT -5
Just wondering what color suit Omer will be wearing on the bench tmrw.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 3, 2020 22:03:01 GMT -5
Green and gold.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 3, 2020 22:24:02 GMT -5
At the risk of derailing what is a thread on Yurt, I agree with 2003 here. Current 3pt shooting percentages aside, one big weakness of our current shorthanded roster as a whole is that they almost exclusively try to avoid contested 3s unless late in the shot clock. On one hand, I get it. Why take a mediocre/bad shot if you might be able to get a better one later in the possession has to be the thought process. On the other hand, unfortunately we aren't getting that better shot later in the shot clock since we have so few go-to options. This actually makes the mediocre/somewhat tough 3 a better shot for us. If we are averaging 0.83 PPS on mid-ranges, then we really need to shoot 28% from 3 to break even. What kills me is when we are in situations like we were on Sunday where Pickett is being guarded by a 6'2 Tandy at the 3 point line. His inability to just rise up and shoot the 3 over him is really hurting us. No way Tandy should be able to block or even deter him. It's essentially the same matchup that guys like Bey and Tucker have over Mosely against us, but we can't capitalize similarly with our own size advantages. Instead, Pickett tries to go to the rim repeatedly resulting in turnovers and missed shots. 1 through 5, one of the focuses I hope we put in both recruiting and player development is coming up with players who can rise up over smaller defenders and hit "contested" shots that should actually be easier. The better teams have those types of guys and at this point we don't, and when you are playing against better teams that will challenge you defensively, that's the only way to avoid these prolonged scoring droughts that are killing us in conference. This is a good analysis. the thing I find frustrating - I just don't enjoy watching basketball game where both teams are taking a bunch of contested 3s, but succeeding because they can hit a little over 30% of them. When teams move the ball to get open 3s - that's fun to watch. But when teams pull up for contested threes as soon as they get a halfway decent look - that really compromises the aesthetic beauty of the game. But I am an old man who probably is just too resistant to change. I have been all in on the "spread the court, drive and kick, shoot lay-ups or open 3s" evolution of the game. But the current move to "take the first half decent contested 3 point look you get" is a lot harder for me to buy into. analytically it clearly makes sense, especially for teams that struggle to achieve the ball movement needed to get wide open shots because of overall talent limitations. But aesthetically - it's just not for me. Agree completely. I grew up on the early 90's Knicks (coincidental when you think about who's in charge) so I don't need aesthetics, just wins. I'm not a fan of jacking up contested 3s for the sake of analytics either. But when we have such a lack of either a low post presence who we can count on to shoot 55-60% (even in limited usage) or any guard/forward who can consistently get to the rim (not just the floaters and tear drops that we're relying on), I just don't see another way for this team to muster enough offense to win games when the defense is consistently subpar and average on a good day. All that being said, if we have good shooters who have size advantages, those contests really shouldn't be contests at all if they are able to take advantage. Unfortunately, the one healthy guy on our roster (Pickett) who has that right now can't shoot if anyone is within even a few feet of him. It ended up being doubly bad for us on Sunday because being able to put Tandy on Pickett meant Xavier could also switch Marshall onto Blair. No surprise why Blair was jacking up 24 footers most of the first 30 minutes; they were the best looks he could get against that caliber of a defender.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 3, 2020 22:26:06 GMT -5
Just wondering what color suit Omer will be wearing on the bench tmrw. Just hoping he doesn't wear a blue/white combo. Wearing a blue/yellow suit at Marquette was a questionable decision by him at best.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 4, 2020 7:04:31 GMT -5
Just wondering what color suit Omer will be wearing on the bench tmrw. Just hoping he doesn't wear a blue/white combo. Wearing a blue/yellow suit at Marquette was a questionable decision by him at best. Careful there. You might hurt people's feelings
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 4, 2020 9:45:55 GMT -5
Just hoping he doesn't wear a blue/white combo. Wearing a blue/yellow suit at Marquette was a questionable decision by him at best. Careful there. You might hurt people's feelings Don't flatter yourself, you didn't hurt my feelings. I was just surprised that someone would take a swipe at a current Hoya player who was projected to get drafted this year. There's a difference between being frustrated that Yurtseven is not playing and making jokes about his draft stock. But I guess I haven't been to the Blue & Gray board in a while and had forgotten about your lack of character. This is not what Melania meant when she said, 'Be Best'.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 4, 2020 10:22:46 GMT -5
Careful there. You might hurt people's feelings Don't flatter yourself, you didn't hurt my feelings. I was just surprised that someone would take a swipe at a current Hoya player who was projected to get drafted this year. There's a difference between being frustrated that Yurtseven is not playing and making jokes about his draft stock. But I guess I haven't been to the Blue & Gray board in a while and had forgotten about your lack of character. This is not what Melania meant when she said, 'Be Best'. Okay thanks. Do you think he needs a draft suit?
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Post by justsaying on Mar 4, 2020 12:35:04 GMT -5
Careful there. You might hurt people's feelings Don't flatter yourself, you didn't hurt my feelings. I was just surprised that someone would take a swipe at a current Hoya player who was projected to get drafted this year. There's a difference between being frustrated that Yurtseven is not playing and making jokes about his draft stock. But I guess I haven't been to the Blue & Gray board in a while and had forgotten about your lack of character. This is not what Melania meant when she said, 'Be Best'. who is Melania
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Post by hoyaduck on Mar 4, 2020 14:27:38 GMT -5
Don't flatter yourself, you didn't hurt my feelings. I was just surprised that someone would take a swipe at a current Hoya player who was projected to get drafted this year. There's a difference between being frustrated that Yurtseven is not playing and making jokes about his draft stock. But I guess I haven't been to the Blue & Gray board in a while and had forgotten about your lack of character. This is not what Melania meant when she said, 'Be Best'. who is Melania First Lady Melania Trump
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Post by justsaying on Mar 4, 2020 17:57:31 GMT -5
yikes!, no more to say other than this is a Y7 thread.
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 4, 2020 21:16:49 GMT -5
I’m done with this thread. He closed the book on Georgetown....I’m turning the page on him. Good luck to him.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 4, 2020 21:35:14 GMT -5
yikes!, no more to say other than this is a Y7 thread. Sorry, it was a joke from SNL this week. But thanks for calling me out. I hope you do it the next time someone mentions something non-basketball related.
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Post by justsaying on Mar 4, 2020 22:21:12 GMT -5
yikes!, no more to say other than this is a Y7 thread. Sorry, it was a joke from SNL this week. But thanks for calling me out. I hope you do it the next time someone mentions something non-basketball related. no problem will do
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Post by Elvado on Mar 5, 2020 6:04:49 GMT -5
yikes!, no more to say other than this is a Y7 thread. Sorry, it was a joke from SNL this week. But thanks for calling me out. I hope you do it the next time someone mentions something non-basketball related. Lighten up Francis.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 5, 2020 8:10:50 GMT -5
I’m done with this thread. He closed the book on Georgetown....I’m turning the page on him. Good luck to him. If that were true he’d no longer be on the bench or taking classes....I’m sorry but the way you always take digs at him without actually saying anything is bush league and I don’t buy your interpretation from what I’ve heard about this group. His injury initially looked really bad. I think he hurt himself by trying to come back too soon.
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 5, 2020 9:50:20 GMT -5
I’m done with this thread. He closed the book on Georgetown....I’m turning the page on him. Good luck to him. If that were true he’d no longer be on the bench or taking classes....I’m sorry but the way you always take digs at him without actually saying anything is bush league and I don’t buy your interpretation from what I’ve heard about this group. His injury initially looked really bad. I think he hurt himself by trying to come back too soon. Okay...I’m sorry rockhoya.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 5, 2020 10:32:15 GMT -5
If that were true he’d no longer be on the bench or taking classes....I’m sorry but the way you always take digs at him without actually saying anything is bush league and I don’t buy your interpretation from what I’ve heard about this group. His injury initially looked really bad. I think he hurt himself by trying to come back too soon. Okay...I’m sorry rockhoya. Sorry for what? No need to apologize or deflect. I know you pull the wool over a lot of people’s eyes around here but you can’t possibly expect everyone to bow down to your opinion, can you? The way you dismiss legitimate points is unbecoming. Even illegitimate points made in good faith you dismiss as if your opinion is more important or better than others’. Get over yourself. Everyone is deserving of respect.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 5, 2020 12:23:18 GMT -5
Just to point out - calling someone bush league is not respectful.😉
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Post by mdtd on Mar 5, 2020 12:59:39 GMT -5
Just to point out - calling someone bush league is not respectful.😉 He said "but the way you always take digs at him without actually saying anything is bush league" which I think means he's calling the action bush league (very just, the kid got hurt and still shows up to games, he didn't give up on the team, he's still here. Unless we figure something out that he isn't actually rehabbing or wasn't actually hurt, it's 100% Bush League to make that jump) and not the guy himself. At least, that's how I'd interpret it. If the university actually told us the extent to the injury it's a different story. Unless for some reason Yurt wants this injury, which seems that it wont affect him in the Summer preparations for Pro Basketball and wants the fans of BOTH schools he represented to call him soft and not hard-working and wants that to be his endorsement from fans, there doesn't seem to be any logical reason that the player himself would not want this disclosed. Not to mention how other, more successful programs actually tell fans injury updates and have more fans show up to the games because it at least shows the fans that the school cares for them to know enough about the on court status and what they are paying their hard earned money to see. But, I'm on a tangent and this is Yurt's thread. The kid might not want to risk playing too much. He would't still be here if he didn't care. Playing injured enough to where you can't jump and can't get up the floor in time to set up defensively and can't get good position down low HURTS THE TEAM. So, instead of calling him out, why don't we relax until we know the full story. Because, rockhoya is right it is 100% bush league to take that jump knowing how little we all are told.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 5, 2020 13:20:43 GMT -5
Based on prior incidences I suspect blueandgray has more insight into much of this than 98% of the rest of us. That said, I don't disagree with the point that repeated comments about Yurtseven not playing are not really necessary. B and G can certainly express his position but that has already been done.
That said, calling what somebody DOES "bush league" is really not any less disrespectful than calling THEM bush league.
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