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Post by SSHoya on Jul 1, 2021 10:55:53 GMT -5
But it's not a real zone because I think there's still a 3 second rule or something. True. |
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 1, 2021 19:08:21 GMT -5
I think Dennis Smith is a better comparison. Guy with a T Rex wingspan but huge vertical who had success in the league. My one concern with Mac is his athleticism didn't seem to translate in the college games alot of times. Like in a Kenner setting he looked great, same with the combine but in a structured offensive system against a structured defense it seems like those athletic assets were under utilized for whatever reason. Maybe in the NBA where you can't play zone or other gimmick defense, he will excel more. What height did he measure at? He doesn't seem like 6-2 to me. Maybe 6-0 without shoes. 6'1.25 without shoes, 6'2.5 with shoes.... 7'10 standing reach Smith is not a bad comparison, but I still personally compare him to Kendrick Nunn. Smith was a huge recruit coming out of high school and a one and done high lottery pick. Nunn was a decent recruit out of high school that went undrafted and was not considered much of an NBA prospect. Nunn is slightly taller/longer, but Mac is more athletic. If I were to bet which team he might land a 2 way contract with, Miami would be my guess. Riley has shown an affinity for players with certain similarities to Mac. He got Tyler Johnson, Kendrick Nunn, and Duncan Robinson all through the UDFA G League route. He drafted Tyler Herro, and once traded for Jason Williams. Ironically when Mac was asked in his interview with Sheed and Bonzi who his favorite NBA team was, he said the Heat because of their player development. He likely sees the same things I do. |
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 1, 2021 23:45:24 GMT -5
I think Dennis Smith is a better comparison. Guy with a T Rex wingspan but huge vertical who had success in the league. My one concern with Mac is his athleticism didn't seem to translate in the college games alot of times. Like in a Kenner setting he looked great, same with the combine but in a structured offensive system against a structured defense it seems like those athletic assets were under utilized for whatever reason. Maybe in the NBA where you can't play zone or other gimmick defense, he will excel more. What height did he measure at? He doesn't seem like 6-2 to me. Maybe 6-0 without shoes. 6'1.25 without shoes, 6'2.5 with shoes.... 7'10 standing reach Smith is not a bad comparison, but I still personally compare him to Kendrick Nunn. Smith was a huge recruit coming out of high school and a one and done high lottery pick. Nunn was a decent recruit out of high school that went undrafted and was not considered much of an NBA prospect. Nunn is slightly taller/longer, but Mac is more athletic. If I were to bet which team he might land a 2 way contract with, Miami would be my guess. Riley has shown an affinity for players with certain similarities to Mac. He got Tyler Johnson, Kendrick Nunn, and Duncan Robinson all through the UDFA G League route. He drafted Tyler Herro, and once traded for Jason Williams. Ironically when Mac was asked in his interview with Sheed and Bonzi who his favorite NBA team was, he said the Heat because of their player development. He likely sees the same things I do. Mourning is with the Miami Heat Front Office. So it really comes down to how Coach Ewing feels about Mac whether Mac gets an opportunity to stick with them. |
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jul 2, 2021 9:43:08 GMT -5
Athleticism was never the issue with Mac. It was a lack of basketball skills for the position he'd, likely, play professionally.
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 2, 2021 9:57:55 GMT -5
Athleticism was never the issue with Mac. It was a lack of basketball skills for the position he'd, likely, play professionally. His height but more importantly wingspan, gives him only one option: point guard (which needs the highest skill level). So that's the uphill battle. If he were 6-4 to 6-6 with equivalent athleticism (which would be like a 52 inch vertical at that height), then he could play 3 positions and would have a high probability of being a DiVicenzo or Herro type (with improved 3 point shooting) |
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Post by tashoya on Jul 2, 2021 10:53:59 GMT -5
Athleticism was never the issue with Mac. It was a lack of basketball skills for the position he'd, likely, play professionally. His height but more importantly wingspan, gives him only one option: point guard (which needs the highest skill level). So that's the uphill battle. If he were 6-4 to 6-6 with equivalent athleticism (which would be like a 52 inch vertical at that height), then he could play 3 positions and would have a high probability of being a DiVicenzo or Herro type (with improved 3 point shooting) This seems accurate to me. Additionally, he'll have to improve his shot selection, his court vision and his handle. |
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 17, 2021 0:23:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 10:31:22 GMT -5
I personally think Mac is going to make someone's team. He might end end up being between the 7th to 12th man in the rotation. Yeah he's got some disadvantages because of height having to match a position at least traditionally. However in today's game, players are getting smaller and smaller for the positions. You can be 6 ft 6 and play center. Shooting guards back in the day had to be at least 6 ft 5 inches. Today shooting guards in the NBA can be 6'3 to as little as 6'0 and maybe even smaller.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 17, 2021 19:44:54 GMT -5
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 24, 2021 15:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 24, 2021 16:01:25 GMT -5
Solid waste of mobile data...thanks
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 26, 2021 17:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Jul 27, 2021 0:53:24 GMT -5
First step: get rid of the stupid headband. Check. |
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 30, 2021 1:41:02 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 30, 2021 6:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Jul 30, 2021 7:03:26 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 30, 2021 8:36:15 GMT -5
Could be a good move with Alex Caruso's arrest. Mac should have a cap friendly number for the loaded Lakers. |
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 30, 2021 16:36:54 GMT -5
Could be a good move with Alex Caruso's arrest. Mac should have a cap friendly number for the loaded Lakers. I doubt the Lakers care much about Caruso's arrest. Him returning will come down to if the Lakers can afford to match whatever offer sheet he gets from another team. Overall though it's a good look for Mac... the Lakers need bodies as they only have 4 players under contract with 3 on max deals. They'll round out the roster with a bunch of vet minimum guys, but they'll still probably throw a couple of young guys on there to fill out their 15. I don't expect Mac to make their roster, but he'll be in training camp, get to practice with and against Lebron, Russ, and AD, and then get to be a rotation guy on their G League team. And who knows, if some injuries happen and he's playing well enough at the G League, maybe he can get a call up. That said, I'm not really expecting to see him in an actual NBA game till year 2, but if it happens sooner, great. Right now I'm curious to see how they use him in Summer League and later in G League play. They cleaned up in UDFA's after the draft. I think that all 4 guys they signed will eventually make an NBA roster down the line. Mac, Joel Ayayi, Austin Reeves and Chaundee Brown. All 4 guys however are SG's. They also have 4 players signed from last years G League team, a PG, SG, and two forwards. Zavier Simpson will likely be their starting PG for Summer League and G League, I'm curious to see if Mac or Austin Reeves will get the backup mins there and eventually if one of them will supplant Simpson as the starting PG. |
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 31, 2021 10:14:28 GMT -5
Could be a good move with Alex Caruso's arrest. Mac should have a cap friendly number for the loaded Lakers. I doubt the Lakers care much about Caruso's arrest. Him returning will come down to if the Lakers can afford to match whatever offer sheet he gets from another team. Overall though it's a good look for Mac... the Lakers need bodies as they only have 4 players under contract with 3 on max deals. They'll round out the roster with a bunch of vet minimum guys, but they'll still probably throw a couple of young guys on there to fill out their 15. I don't expect Mac to make their roster, but he'll be in training camp, get to practice with and against Lebron, Russ, and AD, and then get to be a rotation guy on their G League team. And who knows, if some injuries happen and he's playing well enough at the G League, maybe he can get a call up. That said, I'm not really expecting to see him in an actual NBA game till year 2, but if it happens sooner, great. Right now I'm curious to see how they use him in Summer League and later in G League play. They cleaned up in UDFA's after the draft. I think that all 4 guys they signed will eventually make an NBA roster down the line. Mac, Joel Ayayi, Austin Reeves and Chaundee Brown. All 4 guys however are SG's. They also have 4 players signed from last years G League team, a PG, SG, and two forwards. Zavier Simpson will likely be their starting PG for Summer League and G League, I'm curious to see if Mac or Austin Reeves will get the backup mins there and eventually if one of them will supplant Simpson as the starting PG. Isn’t Exhibit 10 just summer league with G league rights. |
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jul 31, 2021 14:58:59 GMT -5
Isn’t Exhibit 10 just summer league with G league rights. It's supposedly a guaranteed invite to training camp, at which point during or after training camp the team can do one of three things. Sign the player to their active roster... convert the player to a two way player... or waive the player. If the player is waived, they get a 50K bonus to stay with their teams G League affiliate. Obviously the third scenario is what will most likely happen with Mac. He would have to play exceptional in training camp to make the active roster. Reeves and Ayayi are already on Lakers 2-ways... although one or both guys could get converted to standard NBA contracts at which point the Lakers could slide Mac or someone else into the open 2 way. The only other scenario would be if another team really liked Mac and once the Lakers waive him, he could forego his 50K bonus and sign another exhibit 10 or 2 way with another team. Right now there's still a lot of 2 ways available... only about 12 or so have been handed out. I heard most teams are waiting to see how guys do in Summer League before signing them to two ways. Only the top UDFA's got them. In the case of Reeves and Ayayi with the Lakers, I read an article that both players were going to be drafted in the second round but their agents told teams not to draft them because they wanted to go the Lakers on a 2 way deal. Likely because of the Lakers situation and essentially a need for warm bodies they must've felt they had a better chance of making their roster than most other teams. |
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