Mac McClung

[hoyaboya]

Jan 26, 2021 14:14:32 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

The two areas I see improvement in Mac are his 3pt shooting/range and his Arryvdas Sabonis like passing improvement in feeding the post.

Agree with both of these, but would add that his off-ball defense is also vastly improved. He was completely lost on defense at Georgetown, not really helping very well while also losing sight of his man, leading to many open shots. His defense was truly awful while he was a Hoya. Now, he's at least passable defensively and seems to know where to be on the court, helping the overall team defense.

[SDHoya]

Jan 26, 2021 13:51:56 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Jan 26, 2021 11:44:03 GMT -5 SDHoya said:

McClung looks exactly like the player Georgetown had the last two years, except with more of a supporting cast. He still forces it a bit too much, rarely looks for his teammates, takes some bad shots, and then redeems himself with something ESPN top 10 worthy. Anyone remember the end of the Providence game? Also not even Beard, considered a defensive virtuoso, can get McClung to play D (looks like they mostly try to hide McClung in their defensive sets). Beard handed the reins to McClung, and while TTU is very good, they are just 4-4 in the B12, so its not as if McClung has made them world beaters.

Either McClung or Akinjo would clearly be the best guards by a mile on this year's team. But I'm not sure any coach could have gotten those two to play nice. Ewing tried to fit two alpha-dogs onto one roster, and that failed. Hopefully the next batch of recruits are more likely to hunt in a pack.

No Akinjo plus Mac's 3pt shooting has gotten alot more consistent and better with another year of practicing which makes him harder to guard.

Akinjo didn't adjust to the extended 3 point line last year, so he was due a progression this year (although his 3FG% this year is actually lower than it was when he was a frosh). Mac has improved a little from 3 each year--28% frosh, 32% soph, 35% this year. Still not exactly a dead-eye marksman, but sure its a mild improvement. But in other areas of their games I don't see much improvement other than having some extra upperclassmen moxie. Akinjo still can't figure out a way to create for himself in the paint. And Mac still looks like a volume shooter who does not do much to involve his teammates on O, and is allergic to defending. Even so, they are both among the best players on their respective teams (as they were at GU).

[the_way]

Arizona won last night though.

I blame Akinjo for Tech losing to WVA. Didn't pass enough cross-country to Mac last night.

[professorhoya]

Jan 26, 2021 14:20:45 GMT -5 SDHoya said:

Jan 26, 2021 13:51:56 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

No Akinjo plus Mac's 3pt shooting has gotten alot more consistent and better with another year of practicing which makes him harder to guard.

Akinjo didn't adjust to the extended 3 point line last year, so he was due a progression this year (although his 3FG% this year is actually lower than it was when he was a frosh). Mac has improved a little from 3 each year--28% frosh, 32% soph, 35% this year. Still not exactly a dead-eye marksman, but sure its a mild improvement. But in other areas of their games I don't see much improvement other than having some extra upperclassmen moxie. Akinjo still can't figure out a way to create for himself in the paint. And Mac still looks like a volume shooter who does not do much to involve his teammates on O, and is allergic to defending. Even so, they are both among the best players on their respective teams (as they were at GU).

Mac is actually shooting 36% in conference. (He started off erratically in OCC with his 3s)
Even though it doesn't seem like much of a jump it actually is, especially considering he shot 22% from 3 in Big East conference play last year.

Being more consistent from 3, especially open 3's, means the defense can't play of him like in years past. This helps his dribble penetration game and attacking the basket.

[hoyazeke]

Jan 26, 2021 15:02:13 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Jan 26, 2021 14:20:45 GMT -5 SDHoya said:

Akinjo didn't adjust to the extended 3 point line last year, so he was due a progression this year (although his 3FG% this year is actually lower than it was when he was a frosh). Mac has improved a little from 3 each year--28% frosh, 32% soph, 35% this year. Still not exactly a dead-eye marksman, but sure its a mild improvement. But in other areas of their games I don't see much improvement other than having some extra upperclassmen moxie. Akinjo still can't figure out a way to create for himself in the paint. And Mac still looks like a volume shooter who does not do much to involve his teammates on O, and is allergic to defending. Even so, they are both among the best players on their respective teams (as they were at GU).

Mac is actually shooting 36% in conference. (He started off erratically in OCC with his 3s)
Even though it doesn't seem like much of a jump it actually is, especially considering he shot 22% from 3 in Big East conference play last year.

Being more consistent from 3, especially open 3's, means the defense can't play of him like in years past. This helps his dribble penetration game and attacking the basket.

If I remember correctly Mac started 0-19 from 3. A lot of those shots were good shots that rimmed out. You have to think if he makes even 8 of those shots Mac is over 30% his frosh yr as well.

[vv83]

Both Mac and Akinjo are the primary creators/scorers for their teams. they take the most shots, they have the ball in their hands far more than anyone else on the team. They each have exactly what they wanted - they are the man. Are either of them playing better than they did as Hoyas? I would say both are playing somewhat more consistently. Nothing either is doing is better than their best games as Hoyas. But they are having fewer bad games, and more good games. Probably, in part, because both are best when they can dominate the ball. Since neither could dominate the ball consistently at Georgetown, they are both set up to play to their peak abilities more consistently with their new teams.

[mdtd]

Jan 26, 2021 14:54:32 GMT -5 the_way said:

Arizona won last night though.

I blame Akinjo for Tech losing to WVA. Didn't pass enough cross-country to Mac last night.

Arizona State is like really bad though. They are so much worse than their talent.  That's my point. We haven't seen James play against great competition yet. Against the four good teams they've played, Akinjo played very well against UCLA and Colorado, and very poorly against Stanford and USC. 

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Jan 26, 2021 14:17:52 GMT -5 reformation said:

TTech-WVA game overall was very exciting. I wouldn't have tuned in if Mac wasn't playing, but I can't really say I'm going to follow him either. He has definitely improved and is also playing with and against better competition. He has improved his overall shooting, decision making and ability to finish. He is still not any kind of lock for the NBA as he still needs to work on ball distribution, defense mid range shooting etc, but he has shown improvement in those areas. From a purely basketball standpoint he certainly has benefitted from the transfer and I would imagine being on a competitive team is exciting. Still not sure he is an NBA pick, but he's at least closer.

Mac could always score the ball but 14 assists in 8 conference games is not NBA caliber at his size and position. He has to fix that before he starts getting serious NBA looks.

Great college player though and his scoring package puts a lot of pressure on opposing defenses. No matter where he ends up going from a ranking around 250 coming out of highschool to the leading scorer on a top 10 team is a hell of an accomplishment and a credit to his work ethic.

[blueandgray]

It’s a cool story for sure. Mac goes up against LSU and Leblanc this Saturday. Must watch TV!

What’s the over/under on how many times Georgetown gets mentioned in this game? I think I counted 4 mentions in yesterday’s game.

[cgallstar02]

Jan 26, 2021 12:19:01 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

You definitely ain't watching Akinjo and you made that very clear.  If you were watching him, you would know that he leads his team in points, assist and steals. 

If you've been paying attention you would know that he is top five in assist in the PAC-12 and I think he's up there in scoring. 

If you watched him, you would know that the coach considers him their best player just like I said that he would be before he even played one minute at Arizona. 

Now you're right, you're not watching him.  If you were, you would realize that he is miles ahead of Mac as far as who is so called better for their team between he and Mac.

I've watched about half of Akinjo's games this year, and I'm curious what you feel he's improved upon since his Georgetown days? That is not to say that he's not a good player and doing big things for AZ, but what is he doing better than he did at Georgetown? Comparing him to his freshman season at Georgetown since he only played 7 games as a sophomore, here's what you have: Minutes are up from 32 to 35... FG% is slightly down from .365 to .359... 3 PT% is down from .391 to .367... Rebounds are down from 2.9 to 2.0... Assists are up from 5.2 to 5.5... stls are up from 1.1 to 1.7... Turnover's are down from 3.0 to 2.2... pts are up from 13.4 to 14.3. 

So basically his shooting percentages are all down a small amount... pts and assists are slightly up, but given the slight minutes increase are probably about the same per 40. The only thing statistically that really stands out as an improvement would be his turnovers dropping by .8, but that should probably be expected going from freshman to junior season for a point guard. 

So statistically we can see that he's essentially the same player across the board from his freshman year to his junior year despite now playing in a far weaker conference than the Big East. Now on to the eye test. As I said, I've watched about half his games this season... he is certainly a good player, which he also was at Georgetown, that said, I haven't seen a single area of improvement while watching him. He was always a highly skilled and confident player who's two greatest deficiencies, outside of his ego, were god given; athleticism, and height/length. 

His biggest struggle at Georgetown was going to the basket. He has the handle and quickness to get by his man at will but lacks the size and bounce to finish shots at the rim once he gets there. More often than not opponents end up playing volley ball with anything he tries near the rim. It happened a ton at Georgetown and is still happening just as much at AZ. He's never going to get better at this because it's a physical limitation. His best bet would be to avoid contested layups at the rim all together and instead work on adding a floater like Blair has done. The difference is Blair is someone who is/was willing to accept his physical limitations and work around them. Akinjo's ego is too big and he is hell bent on proving to himself and others that he can finish at the rim over bigger more athletic guys. 

At the end of the day Akinjo is what he is as a player. He's alway been a very good passer and ball handler, good free throw shooter, decent 3 point shooter... he'll never be a good rebounder, lock down defender, or be able to finish at the rim with much consistency, all due to physical limitations. He's someone with a high floor and a low ceiling. 

Now, as far as who is better for their team between he and Mac, it comes down to what each player brings vs what else their roster has. Tech has several good players and great defenders, but offensively they are somewhat lacking. Mac is by far their best scorer and shot creator... they don't have a single true PG on the roster... their next best scorer is Shannon, but he has a questionable jump shot and can only drive to his left... if you force him right he becomes helpless. Mac is their lone player that can consistently create and make a shot for himself, and sometimes others on their roster. 

As for AZ, if you've been watching the games you'd see a guy named Terrell Brown who is also a PG and arguably passes and shoots better than Akinjo. His minutes and usage aren't near as high as Akinjo's but take a look at the comparison. Plays 25 mins to Akinjo's 35... shoots 46% from the field to Akinjo's 36%... shoots 46% from 3 to Akinjo's 36%... his assist to turnover ratio is 5/1... Akinjo's is 2.5/1. In other words, one could argue that AZ would likely not miss a beat if Akinjo left and Brown took over his role... they might actually be better. By no means am I saying Akinjo is a bad player, just that the things he provides his team, they have another player who does the exact same things yet far more efficiently across the board. As for Tech, they would be fine without Mac against the Iowa State's and Kansas State's, but against the teams like Texas, Baylor, etc. they would likely get destroyed without his offense. 

[the_way]

lol

[hoyaatheart55]

Jan 26, 2021 9:49:15 GMT -5 paranoia2 said:

McDung will make some G league team very happy when they select him in the draft. If some of you guys tip an equipment worker maybe you can get some game used McDung gear that you can cherish.

How old are you?

[cgallstar02]

Jan 26, 2021 13:18:23 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

This is not how to compare ratings. It's an awful comparison when doing it for a new team or a new year and he has both. He should be compared to his teammates and overall team rating. TTU O/D rating is 109.3/89.3. By contrast last year we were 104.3/103.2. Mac is a 119/94.2 so he is better than the team on offense and worse on defense. His D rating is actually the worse on the team of the rotation guys. His overall rating is behind all the upper class rotation players except Burton. His jump shot has improved while his other offensive stats are down slightly. He certainly did not go to TTU to play PG. I think pretending like he has made some huge leap is just because he is on a better team. He did make the correct move for him though.

How relevant as a whole is the D Rating stat? If I look at last years Hoya team, the two worst D Rating players besides Blair were Allen and Mosely, two guys who were praised as being defensive savants. Mac had a better rating than both, as well as Pickett. Yurt, who took almost as much heat for his defense as Mac had the best D Rating on the team. Wahab and Ighoefe were 2nd and 3rd. Going back over the last 3 years, here's some more observations; Blair has had the worst D Rating on the team all 4 of his seasons. Mac had a better D Rating than Mosely during his freshman season. Centers always seem to have the best D Rating. Govan, who most, including myself thought was a terrible defender was 2nd behind Leblanc in 2018-2019 and first in 2017-2018. So while some stuff seems to make sense like Leblanc having the best rating on the team his freshman year... Blair being the worst on the team every season... other stuff doesn't make much sense like Mac being better than Mosely and Allen... Govan and Yurt being the best on the team. Overall it makes the whole stat seem questionable. 

[cgallstar02]

Jan 26, 2021 11:44:03 GMT -5 SDHoya said:

McClung looks exactly like the player Georgetown had the last two years, except with more of a supporting cast. He still forces it a bit too much, rarely looks for his teammates, takes some bad shots, and then redeems himself with something ESPN top 10 worthy. Anyone remember the end of the Providence game? Also not even Beard, considered a defensive virtuoso, can get McClung to play D (looks like they mostly try to hide McClung in their defensive sets). Beard handed the reins to McClung, and while TTU is very good, they are just 4-4 in the B12, so its not as if McClung has made them world beaters.

Either McClung or Akinjo would clearly be the best guards by a mile on this year's team. But I'm not sure any coach could have gotten those two to play nice. Ewing tried to fit two alpha-dogs onto one roster, and that failed. Hopefully the next batch of recruits are more likely to hunt in a pack.

Not sure where you're getting this notion? Tech's defense involves non stop switching. It would not be uncommon for Mac and his teammates for that matter, to guard 4 different players on a single possession. He might start the possession on the team's best guard and finish the possession guarding the center in the paint. He's certainly not hiding him as that would throw their entire scheme out of wack. 

Those 4 losses have come to an 11th ranked WVU on the road by 1. A #2 ranked Baylor team by 8. An OK ST team in overtime. And a Kansas team by 1. It's not like they got steamrolled in those games. Every game but the Baylor one came down to the wire. They also have wins against #5 Texas and #24 Oklahoma. Also I'm not sure what your expectation levels are or were for Mac but there are players far better than him on teams that are doing far worse than Tech right now. Did you think Mac would lead them to a perfect record in the BIG 12? There's 6 ranked teams in the BIG 12 with a 7th (Ok St) on the cusp. If they were in the Pac 12 they likely wouldn't lose more than 2 games all season. In the BIG 12 9-9 would be considered an accomplishment. Records are relative to conference. 

[Ranch Dressing]

Yawn...

[804hoya]

McClung can kick rocks.

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Jan 26, 2021 12:26:58 GMT -5 mdtd said:

Jan 26, 2021 12:19:01 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

You definitely ain't watching Akinjo and you made that very clear.  If you were watching him, you would know that he leads his team in points, assist and steals. 

If you've been paying attention you would know that he is top five in assist in the PAC-12 and I think he's up there in scoring. 

If you watched him, you would know that the coach considers him their best player just like I said that he would be before he even played one minute at Arizona. 

Now you're right, you're not watching him.  If you were, you would realize that he is miles ahead of Mac as far as who is so called better for their team between he and Mac.

Yeah, as I said I haven't been watching. He jumped up an assist per game and he's shooting better. That's all from the numbers. But like I can't tell how he's playing within the system, is he dominating games and controlling them, or does he get forced out of control, how do the better teams guard him, etc. 

And anything Miller says is coach speak. The Arizona roster is solid, but I can't point to anyone who I think is amazing or who actually is the best player on that team (best player doesn't always score the most points per game), again because I haven't watched him play consistently. 

But Mac scoring 20+ against WVU, Baylor, and Texas, three top 11 teams is much more impressive than anything James has done this season. Mainly because, again, he hasn't played against great competition. Miller's noncon schedule was full of cupcakes (probably why they gave themselves a post season ban, since they would've been penalized massively because of this joke of a schedule and would have to really overperform in conference to make the Big Dance). 

As Hoyas, I thought James was the better player. Right now, I'm taking Mac. I can read a box score (Akinjo's numbers are pretty similar to what they were here), but that doesn't say everything about a game. Mac looks so much better at TTU. I can't say the same for Akinjo. I don't see any significant improvement there, where I see tons for Mac. 

But sir, you just said you haven't watched Akinjo.  So how can you make comparisons.  I love both him and Mac and I am hoping both do well, including them making into the NBA.  Although I know that Mac ain't no point guard.  But how can you shoot down Akinjo and prop up Mac especially since you haven't seen Akinjo play, according to your testimony?  That ain't right.

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Jan 26, 2021 17:44:38 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

Jan 26, 2021 12:19:01 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

You definitely ain't watching Akinjo and you made that very clear.  If you were watching him, you would know that he leads his team in points, assist and steals. 

If you've been paying attention you would know that he is top five in assist in the PAC-12 and I think he's up there in scoring. 

If you watched him, you would know that the coach considers him their best player just like I said that he would be before he even played one minute at Arizona. 

Now you're right, you're not watching him.  If you were, you would realize that he is miles ahead of Mac as far as who is so called better for their team between he and Mac.

I've watched about half of Akinjo's games this year, and I'm curious what you feel he's improved upon since his Georgetown days? That is not to say that he's not a good player and doing big things for AZ, but what is he doing better than he did at Georgetown? Comparing him to his freshman season at Georgetown since he only played 7 games as a sophomore, here's what you have: Minutes are up from 32 to 35... FG% is slightly down from .365 to .359... 3 PT% is down from .391 to .367... Rebounds are down from 2.9 to 2.0... Assists are up from 5.2 to 5.5... stls are up from 1.1 to 1.7... Turnover's are down from 3.0 to 2.2... pts are up from 13.4 to 14.3. 

So basically his shooting percentages are all down a small amount... pts and assists are slightly up, but given the slight minutes increase are probably about the same per 40. The only thing statistically that really stands out as an improvement would be his turnovers dropping by .8, but that should probably be expected going from freshman to junior season for a point guard. 

So statistically we can see that he's essentially the same player across the board from his freshman year to his junior year despite now playing in a far weaker conference than the Big East. Now on to the eye test. As I said, I've watched about half his games this season... he is certainly a good player, which he also was at Georgetown, that said, I haven't seen a single area of improvement while watching him. He was always a highly skilled and confident player who's two greatest deficiencies, outside of his ego, were god given; athleticism, and height/length. 

His biggest struggle at Georgetown was going to the basket. He has the handle and quickness to get by his man at will but lacks the size and bounce to finish shots at the rim once he gets there. More often than not opponents end up playing volley ball with anything he tries near the rim. It happened a ton at Georgetown and is still happening just as much at AZ. He's never going to get better at this because it's a physical limitation. His best bet would be to avoid contested layups at the rim all together and instead work on adding a floater like Blair has done. The difference is Blair is someone who is/was willing to accept his physical limitations and work around them. Akinjo's ego is too big and he is hell bent on proving to himself and others that he can finish at the rim over bigger more athletic guys. 

At the end of the day Akinjo is what he is as a player. He's alway been a very good passer and ball handler, good free throw shooter, decent 3 point shooter... he'll never be a good rebounder, lock down defender, or be able to finish at the rim with much consistency, all due to physical limitations. He's someone with a high floor and a low ceiling. 

Now, as far as who is better for their team between he and Mac, it comes down to what each player brings vs what else their roster has. Tech has several good players and great defenders, but offensively they are somewhat lacking. Mac is by far their best scorer and shot creator... they don't have a single true PG on the roster... their next best scorer is Shannon, but he has a questionable jump shot and can only drive to his left... if you force him right he becomes helpless. Mac is their lone player that can consistently create and make a shot for himself, and sometimes others on their roster. 

As for AZ, if you've been watching the games you'd see a guy named Terrell Brown who is also a PG and arguably passes and shoots better than Akinjo. His minutes and usage aren't near as high as Akinjo's but take a look at the comparison. Plays 25 mins to Akinjo's 35... shoots 46% from the field to Akinjo's 36%... shoots 46% from 3 to Akinjo's 36%... his assist to turnover ratio is 5/1... Akinjo's is 2.5/1. In other words, one could argue that AZ would likely not miss a beat if Akinjo left and Brown took over his role... they might actually be better. By no means am I saying Akinjo is a bad player, just that the things he provides his team, they have another player who does the exact same things yet far more efficiently across the board. As for Tech, they would be fine without Mac against the Iowa State's and Kansas State's, but against the teams like Texas, Baylor, etc. they would likely get destroyed without his offense. 

How many games has Akinjo played in Arizona uniform?  Okay what were his stats the last game?  Why do I ask these questions you ask?  It is because Akinjo stats are trending up.  The more he gets to play in the system and the more freedom he gets, the better his stats are going to be. 

Right now, he is leading the team in two of the most important offensive stats (scoring and assist).  He is leading the team in one of the most defensive stats (steals).  His assist to turnover ratio is like 2 to 1 and he is trending upwards in that area.  Most importantly of all the stats, his team is winning and that's what counts the most and he is heavily contributing to those wins.

[mdtd]

Jan 27, 2021 10:12:28 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Jan 26, 2021 12:26:58 GMT -5 mdtd said:

Yeah, as I said I haven't been watching. He jumped up an assist per game and he's shooting better. That's all from the numbers. But like I can't tell how he's playing within the system, is he dominating games and controlling them, or does he get forced out of control, how do the better teams guard him, etc. 

And anything Miller says is coach speak. The Arizona roster is solid, but I can't point to anyone who I think is amazing or who actually is the best player on that team (best player doesn't always score the most points per game), again because I haven't watched him play consistently. 

But Mac scoring 20+ against WVU, Baylor, and Texas, three top 11 teams is much more impressive than anything James has done this season. Mainly because, again, he hasn't played against great competition. Miller's noncon schedule was full of cupcakes (probably why they gave themselves a post season ban, since they would've been penalized massively because of this joke of a schedule and would have to really overperform in conference to make the Big Dance). 

As Hoyas, I thought James was the better player. Right now, I'm taking Mac. I can read a box score (Akinjo's numbers are pretty similar to what they were here), but that doesn't say everything about a game. Mac looks so much better at TTU. I can't say the same for Akinjo. I don't see any significant improvement there, where I see tons for Mac. 

But sir, you just said you haven't watched Akinjo.  So how can you make comparisons.  I love both him and Mac and I am hoping both do well, including them making into the NBA.  Although I know that Mac ain't no point guard.  But how can you shoot down Akinjo and prop up Mac especially since you haven't seen Akinjo play, according to your testimony?  That ain't right.

I have seen him play, but not much, as I've said multiple times. And how much have you seen him play? I saw the end of the Eastern Washington game, one game almost in full (can't remember which) and some highlights (bigger, close games on social media), vs Mac who I've seen ball out on national TV many times. Akinjo has played a cupcake schedule, and it's not his fault. But I'm much more likely to watch TTU-Baylor than Arizona-Wazzu or Arizona-Bakersfield. Also, I can look at numbers and see Mac is playing better. I don't have to watch every Seton Hall game to know that Mamu is a better basketball player than Pickett.

And again, Mac is the PG for TTU. Have you watched him play? While his assist numbers aren't there (and need to improve for him to make the next level), he runs PG for that team. 

[hoyainla]

Jan 26, 2021 20:28:51 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

Jan 26, 2021 13:18:23 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

This is not how to compare ratings. It's an awful comparison when doing it for a new team or a new year and he has both. He should be compared to his teammates and overall team rating. TTU O/D rating is 109.3/89.3. By contrast last year we were 104.3/103.2. Mac is a 119/94.2 so he is better than the team on offense and worse on defense. His D rating is actually the worse on the team of the rotation guys. His overall rating is behind all the upper class rotation players except Burton. His jump shot has improved while his other offensive stats are down slightly. He certainly did not go to TTU to play PG. I think pretending like he has made some huge leap is just because he is on a better team. He did make the correct move for him though.

How relevant as a whole is the D Rating stat? If I look at last years Hoya team, the two worst D Rating players besides Blair were Allen and Mosely, two guys who were praised as being defensive savants. Mac had a better rating than both, as well as Pickett. Yurt, who took almost as much heat for his defense as Mac had the best D Rating on the team. Wahab and Ighoefe were 2nd and 3rd. Going back over the last 3 years, here's some more observations; Blair has had the worst D Rating on the team all 4 of his seasons. Mac had a better D Rating than Mosely during his freshman season. Centers always seem to have the best D Rating. Govan, who most, including myself thought was a terrible defender was 2nd behind Leblanc in 2018-2019 and first in 2017-2018. So while some stuff seems to make sense like Leblanc having the best rating on the team his freshman year... Blair being the worst on the team every season... other stuff doesn't make much sense like Mac being better than Mosely and Allen... Govan and Yurt being the best on the team. Overall it makes the whole stat seem questionable. 

I posted in the other thread but will put it here as well.

Mac's rating was lower because he missed so many Big East games. I ran the ratings of the games he played and Jagan and Allen both had lower D ratings. Allen didn't get to feast that much on the bad teams in the OOC as well. Our D rating in OOC was roughly 10 points lower in OOC than in conference.

As for his TT stats. He has played about 84% of the possible minutes in conference. They play about 7.5 guys in the rotation. His D rating is about 5 points worse than the rest of those rotation players. You know how hard that is to do when you play 84% of the possible time?