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Post by guru on Feb 15, 2018 15:15:49 GMT -5
]I thought it was reported on twitter that PE would change his scheduling philosophy for next year. Did I imagine that or are we ignoring it because it was on twitter (which would be fair)? The problem isn't that it was on Twitter, the problem is that was from Goodman - even putting aside the fact that he's a giant troll, he's supposedly been excommunicated from Georgetown sources. It's more likely that his tweet saying that the Hoyas are going to ramp it up is him trolling Hoyas fans again. you're paranoid
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Post by TC on Feb 15, 2018 15:27:35 GMT -5
I had a thread on Goodman. It got shut down because he's a giant troll and it was seen as giving him too much attention. But hey, that was a month and a half ago, so we should go back to taking him sincerely and not reading him as tongue and cheek here?
Show me a Rothstein tweet or a tidbit on a Standig pod or something, I'll buy it. I don't think Goodman has any insight into our 2019 scheduling.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2018 15:34:35 GMT -5
So we've got Richmond at home next year. I think we have Cuse at Cuse but not sure how long that contract is. Give me American, Mason, Howard, and maybe some schools like JMU, Navy, etc. That would be good. I would love to see Maryland back in there but doubt that is where Patrick's head is at. We should be back in the B1G/Big east challenge after a year out so there is that too. I would love to see a game against a bottom feeder ACC team like Pitt or Wake as well. IIRC the Syracuse series was a three-game series with one neutral game (at MSG), one at Syracuse and the last one at Cap Center. Pat stated that he would like to play Syracuse, but no news re: new arrangement. Next year Richmond will be visiting GU and we should be back in the Gavitt Games vs. Big Ten, but no word yet on opponent or if it's home or away.
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Post by mdtd on Feb 15, 2018 15:45:42 GMT -5
Our next game is huge for all aspects of postseason play. I don't want to get my hopes up, but if we win this one, our road to a postseason tournament opens up. We need this one the most. I won't we expecting a win but if we do this is huge for postseason play. We got 6 days to prepare and hopefully Nova drains Xavier's energy and we could shock the world. But, with a three game win streak we'd be peaking at the right time. Especially with the competition we'd have beaten, a 1 seed and two 7-10 seeded teams. if someone told me before this season began that we'd be in this position right now I'd tell them they were delusional. But, if Ewing could work some magic then we can be playing past the Big East tournament.
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Post by mdtd on Feb 15, 2018 15:47:00 GMT -5
So we've got Richmond at home next year. I think we have Cuse at Cuse but not sure how long that contract is. Give me American, Mason, Howard, and maybe some schools like JMU, Navy, etc. That would be good. I would love to see Maryland back in there but doubt that is where Patrick's head is at. We should be back in the B1G/Big east challenge after a year out so there is that too. I would love to see a game against a bottom feeder ACC team like Pitt or Wake as well. IIRC the Syracuse series was a three-game series with one neutral game (at MSG), one at Syracuse and the last one at Cap Center. Pat stated that he would like to play Syracuse, but no news re: new arrangement. Next year Richmond will be visiting GU and we should be back in the Gavitt Games vs. Big Ten, but no word yet on opponent or if it's home or away. Hopefully it's Maryland and we can prove that we are the team in the DMV that you should come to!
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2018 15:55:16 GMT -5
IIRC the Syracuse series was a three-game series with one neutral game (at MSG), one at Syracuse and the last one at Cap Center. Pat stated that he would like to play Syracuse, but no news re: new arrangement. Next year Richmond will be visiting GU and we should be back in the Gavitt Games vs. Big Ten, but no word yet on opponent or if it's home or away. Hopefully it's Maryland and we can prove that we are the team in the DMV that you should come to! So many great Big Ten teams to pick from, but we owe Maryland a beating. Or how about some of Nebraska and Isaac Copeland? After three years, the Gavitt Games are still tied at 12-12. Of course, two of those losses were provided by JT3 and Co.
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Post by sleepy on Feb 15, 2018 16:08:18 GMT -5
I had a thread on Goodman. It got shut down because he's a giant troll and it was seen as giving him too much attention. But hey, that was a month and a half ago, so we should go back to taking him sincerely and not reading him as tongue and cheek here? Show me a Rothstein tweet or a tidbit on a Standig pod or something, I'll buy it. I don't think Goodman has any insight into our 2019 scheduling. And he's still not done: Don't trust a word the weasel says.
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Post by mdtd on Feb 15, 2018 16:14:26 GMT -5
I had a thread on Goodman. It got shut down because he's a giant troll and it was seen as giving him too much attention. But hey, that was a month and a half ago, so we should go back to taking him sincerely and not reading him as tongue and cheek here? Show me a Rothstein tweet or a tidbit on a Standig pod or something, I'll buy it. I don't think Goodman has any insight into our 2019 scheduling. And he's still not done: Don't trust a word the weasel says. He has to try to stay relevant after ESPN made the huge mistake of letting Brennan and Katz go for this "weasel." There isn't anything else that could keep him relevant other than Ewing, Kentucky and LaVar Ball. Other than that, nobody talks about him. He's easily one of the worse analysts for college hoops.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 15, 2018 16:55:55 GMT -5
While I am no fan of Goodman, there's some truth to his point. That said, right now, the main thing keeping us away from the NCAA tournament is that we only have 5 wins. If we had 9 wins or finished 9-9, then his point would ring true.
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Post by guru on Feb 15, 2018 16:59:24 GMT -5
I had a thread on Goodman. It got shut down because he's a giant troll and it was seen as giving him too much attention. But hey, that was a month and a half ago, so we should go back to taking him sincerely and not reading him as tongue and cheek here? Show me a Rothstein tweet or a tidbit on a Standig pod or something, I'll buy it. I don't think Goodman has any insight into our 2019 scheduling. And he's still not done: Don't trust a word the weasel says. Goodman is truly annoying. That’s his schtick and I’m not a fan. But posters like TC and 2003 have bashed our OOC schedule just as hard on this board. So I don’t get why some are so enraged that a writer is making the same point they are.
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Post by TC on Feb 15, 2018 16:59:53 GMT -5
While I am no fan of Goodman, there's some truth to his point. That said, right now, the main thing keeping us away from the NCAA tournament is that we only have 5 wins. If we had 9 wins or finished 9-9, then his point would ring true. Right. I don't buy in a million years after how he's acted he has any access to the program though.
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Post by TC on Feb 15, 2018 17:02:12 GMT -5
Goodman is truly annoying. That’s his schtick and I’m not a fan. But posters like TC and 2003 have bashed our OOC schedule just as hard on this board. So I don’t get why some are so enraged that a writer is making the same point they are. Maybe you should look up the difference between writing and trolling then.
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Post by guru on Feb 15, 2018 18:13:31 GMT -5
Goodman is truly annoying. That’s his schtick and I’m not a fan. But posters like TC and 2003 have bashed our OOC schedule just as hard on this board. So I don’t get why some are so enraged that a writer is making the same point they are. Maybe you should look up the difference between writing and trolling then. It takes two to successfully troll. And as you've pointed out over and over, Goodman isn't wrong on this.
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Post by sleepy on Feb 15, 2018 18:29:22 GMT -5
Maybe you should look up the difference between writing and trolling then. It takes two to successfully troll. And as you've pointed out over and over, Goodman isn't wrong on this. It's February. We are unranked and not even NIT bound. And yet he still tweets about us and our OOC once a week. You don't find that weird?
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Post by guru on Feb 15, 2018 18:29:51 GMT -5
While I am no fan of Goodman, there's some truth to his point. That said, right now, the main thing keeping us away from the NCAA tournament is that we only have 5 wins. If we had 9 wins or finished 9-9, then his point would ring true. Goodman's tweet, in its entirety: "Georgetown’s non-conference schedule gave the Hoyas virtually no chance at making the NCAA tourney." This is exactly the point you have been making since the beginning of the season. Seems weird that you now write that there's "some truth to his point"
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Post by guru on Feb 15, 2018 18:34:50 GMT -5
It takes two to successfully troll. And as you've pointed out over and over, Goodman isn't wrong on this. It's February. We are unranked and not even NIT bound. And yet he still tweets about us and our OOC once a week. You don't find that weird? Look, I don't follow the guy on Twitter, which makes it easy to ignore his tweets. From the ones posted here, it appears he's replying to @s from others. He was definitely trolling us hard at one point, that's for sure. What I don't get is his main gripe is the same as the ones who are most annoyed by him on this board. Anyway, it's funny.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 15, 2018 18:46:35 GMT -5
While I am no fan of Goodman, there's some truth to his point. That said, right now, the main thing keeping us away from the NCAA tournament is that we only have 5 wins. If we had 9 wins or finished 9-9, then his point would ring true. Goodman's tweet, in its entirety: "Georgetown’s non-conference schedule gave the Hoyas virtually no chance at making the NCAA tourney." This is exactly the point you have been making since the beginning of the season. Seems weird that you now write that there's "some truth to his point" Yes, that is and was my main point. I’m not retreating from anything.
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Post by hoyainla on Feb 15, 2018 19:48:41 GMT -5
"Trey makes a couple elementary plays at the end of a game and he's all of a sudden good" is pretty Editedy. Don't see many posters out there who are saying TD is first team all big-east. But, it was more than a couple good plays, and if you can't see the connection between improved guard play and the recent wins, then I don't know what to tell you. As for the OOC schedule, no one here liked the weak OOC. But to say the "OOC did in our NIT chances. if we just replaces the MEACs and Maine with a bunch of North Texas and Mt. St. Mary's we would've been fine" is simplistic and flawed. The team wasn't ready (as you admit it wasn't ready for BE) and games against better teams early on would have been losses which, of course, would have resulted in a worse record than we have now, which, of course, means no chance at the NIT anyway. In any event, you have posters who agreed with you and appreciate your post, which is what makes a message board. Personally, I never understand why people who think they are "keeping it real" have to be so negative. And I happen to agree that our chances of making the NIT are slim to none and there is no chance at the NCAA. As for Trey it was before last game. The infatuation with what he did at the end of the Seton Hall game was a little overboard for me. He backed it up with by far his best game of the year and what was clearly a great game regardless of player. I hope he plays like that for the rest of his Hoyas career. If it just took those 2 passes at the end of the game for the light to switch than that is a pretty incredible development. When I made the statement he had the worst oRtg of any rotation player since Jerrelle Benimon. Maybe I'm negative for pointing that out but it doesn't make it any less true. As for this notion that we would have lost to sub 200 RPI teams I don't get. What is the rationale behind it? We played #223 and won by 34, #224 won by 9 and #283 won by 16. If you want to keep going we beat #183 by 12 and #162 on the road by 6. We were not at risk of losing to a sub 200 team at any point of the year. Our best win was over #224 in our second game of the season. The team was plenty ready for cupcakes. All we had to do was what we did and give the ball to Jessie since he could just dominate. We had way too much talent to lose to them. I don't think that can be argued based on results. As for if they were ready for the BE I personally don't think they were based on how the season has played out since the start of the BE. That can be debated. As I said the team now looks nothing like the team that played in the OOC. The scheme has changed and the player's minutes/rotations have changed. The reliance on Jessie is gone since the team has figured out he can't over power BE centers. All the changes have been for the better I might add but that leads me to believe the OOC was pretty much useless except for dragging our peripherals down. Some people believe we needed that OOC to be good and that's fine. I think we would've been much better served playing better teams. I am the one that argues we have talent so I clearly thought we were better off than most. Does me saying we have talent but underachieved early in BE mean I'm negative or positive because honestly I'm not sure.
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Post by boxout05 on Feb 15, 2018 20:07:24 GMT -5
So we've got Richmond at home next year. I think we have Cuse at Cuse but not sure how long that contract is. Give me American, Mason, Howard, and maybe some schools like JMU, Navy, etc. That would be good. I would love to see Maryland back in there but doubt that is where Patrick's head is at. We should be back in the B1G/Big east challenge after a year out so there is that too. I would love to see a game against a bottom feeder ACC team like Pitt or Wake as well. Why not ODU or Radford? It's incredibly sad, but we'll still be finding our legs and I worry about a home court disadvantage. Our fans haven't shown up yet but you better believe those schools will show for a chance to beat Gtown. Give it a few years. (ugh, I feel dirty admitting this)
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Post by This Just In on Feb 15, 2018 20:28:27 GMT -5
"Trey makes a couple elementary plays at the end of a game and he's all of a sudden good" is pretty Editedy. Don't see many posters out there who are saying TD is first team all big-east. But, it was more than a couple good plays, and if you can't see the connection between improved guard play and the recent wins, then I don't know what to tell you. As for the OOC schedule, no one here liked the weak OOC. But to say the "OOC did in our NIT chances. if we just replaces the MEACs and Maine with a bunch of North Texas and Mt. St. Mary's we would've been fine" is simplistic and flawed. The team wasn't ready (as you admit it wasn't ready for BE) and games against better teams early on would have been losses which, of course, would have resulted in a worse record than we have now, which, of course, means no chance at the NIT anyway. In any event, you have posters who agreed with you and appreciate your post, which is what makes a message board. Personally, I never understand why people who think they are "keeping it real" have to be so negative. And I happen to agree that our chances of making the NIT are slim to none and there is no chance at the NCAA. As for Trey it was before last game. The infatuation with what he did at the end of the Seton Hall game was a little overboard for me. He backed it up with by far his best game of the year and what was clearly a great game regardless of player. I hope he plays like that for the rest of his Hoyas career. If it just took those 2 passes at the end of the game for the light to switch than that is a pretty incredible development. When I made the statement he had the worst oRtg of any rotation player since Jerrelle Benimon. Maybe I'm negative for pointing that out but it doesn't make it any less true. As for this notion that we would have lost to sub 200 RPI teams I don't get. What is the rationale behind it? We played #223 and won by 34, #224 won by 9 and #283 won by 16. If you want to keep going we beat #183 by 12 and #162 on the road by 6. We were not at risk of losing to a sub 200 team at any point of the year. Our best win was over #224 in our second game of the season. The team was plenty ready for cupcakes. All we had to do was what we did and give the ball to Jessie since he could just dominate. We had way too much talent to lose to them. I don't think that can be argued based on results. As for if they were ready for the BE I personally don't think they were based on how the season has played out since the start of the BE. That can be debated. As I said the team now looks nothing like the team that played in the OOC. The scheme has changed and the player's minutes/rotations have changed. The reliance on Jessie is gone since the team has figured out he can't over power BE centers. All the changes have been for the better I might add but that leads me to believe the OOC was pretty much useless except for dragging our peripherals down. Some people believe we needed that OOC to be good and that's fine. I think we would've been much better served playing better teams. I am the one that argues we have talent so I clearly thought we were better off than most. Does me saying we have talent but underachieved early in BE mean I'm negative or positive because honestly I'm not sure. Well count me right there with you. If we had played a better OOC the offensive tweaks could have been made prior to the BE schedule and would not have taken 13 BE games to figure out how to close out a game against teams not named DePaul and St. Johns. Also that 1pt loss to DePaul at home may really come back to haunt Ewing. As you look at it, if the team won that game they are 6-8 with a margin for error and even looking at ending up over (.500) in the BE at 10-8 instead of now running the table and ending up at 9-9 and needing a couple of wins in the BET to get into the NCAAT.
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