EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 6, 2018 23:03:17 GMT -5
Awful inbounding by Jagan... has to work on his bball IQ... I'm sorry but that was a terribly designed play.. It makes zero sense not to have any players in the backcourt..
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 6, 2018 23:03:17 GMT -5
Players play, or not!
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Post by BeantownHoya on Feb 6, 2018 23:03:23 GMT -5
Its not all on the players and not all on the coach but for anyone saying that Ewing doesnt hold some responsibility in these closes losses is flat out wrong...
It's year 1 and gets a full pass but anyone that tells me they have been happy with our game ending plays and adjustments in close games is just being purposefully blind...
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smokeyjack
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Post by smokeyjack on Feb 6, 2018 23:03:40 GMT -5
We can all go on praying that the light goes on for Pat. But it doesn’t look like it’s going to. He has shown us NOTHING in late game situations. What is he doing? There are plenty of folks who can roll the ball out. We need more. All we’re seeing is red flags.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 6, 2018 23:03:56 GMT -5
Hoyas blow this game and give it away. Ewing gets outcoached period. No disrespect. Some posters don't want to hear this but it is true, the 4th consecutive game lost with under a minute left For JTIII it was the NCAAT losses For Ewing it is end of game coaching Even the analysts are talking about the continual end of game execution problems. Correct but with jt3 it was more what our guards did remember chris wright was out and starks made a couple of bad decisions. Jte finally corrected the problem went out and got a true point guard in Waters. I regress.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Feb 6, 2018 23:04:22 GMT -5
We are watching the most poorly coached team in college basketball. No true. The coaching is good up until the last 4 minutes, then it goes to "hell in a hand basket". There is more meaningful coaching done in the last 4 minutes of a game then the rest of the game combined usually. Oh well on to the next one. I can only think of the definition of insanity right now and I don't want to go insane.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Feb 6, 2018 23:04:44 GMT -5
Poor decision. Making throwing the game away....All of you, what does Ewing need to do? ? None of our guards handle the situation..none of them!!! The problem is the book is out on Ewing, this year. Guard play is decent enough to win for 36 minutes plus for the last 4 games and then falls apart. At some point the Coach has to step up and help the guards out during that critical time period.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 6, 2018 23:04:46 GMT -5
Same outcome, different court. No guard to close out close games. Mosely isn’t the answer. Forget about Mulmore or Dickerson. Recruit some skilled guards!
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Feb 6, 2018 23:04:50 GMT -5
How! What should he have done from your perspective? You should've just heard what Lavin and Jackson said lol. Plus we had two timeouts didnt freeze the free throw shooter. Man we got outcoached big time in the last two games. We did freeze the free throw shooter. Do you watch the games or just posted wrecklessly. It was a conversation topic by the announcers for a solid minute.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 6, 2018 23:04:54 GMT -5
We can all go on praying that the light goes on for Pat. But it doesn’t look like it’s going to. He has shown us NOTHING in late game situations. What is he doing? There are plenty of folks who can roll the ball out. We need more. All we’re seeing is red flags. As noted earlier, Ewing looks more like Mullin than Cooley out there.
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Post by 72hoya on Feb 6, 2018 23:05:00 GMT -5
Again failure to see out a late lead. And it mostly down to not having a kid who can get his own shot and/or draw a foul. Why Mosely for the second time in three games is the one throwing up a floating hook at the end of the game is a question that needs asking. But also we out shot them and out rebounded them. They win because they went to the line more often and frankly some of the calls both ways were strange but clearly they benefitted late. Also we still turnnthe ball over too much. And I think I can see improvement that comes with coaching but still too many. We knew this would be a tough season but actually the team has played better than I expected. Tough to have so many close losses
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 6, 2018 23:05:05 GMT -5
Poor decision. Making throwing the game away....All of you, what Ewing need to do? ? We didn't use our TOs until the game was tied. This is a team that's blown several games in the last few minutes, and we have a 5 point lead and he sort of just lets them wing it. Long term, i get it, but he coached poorly in this particular game when the object is to win. I've said this during the gane
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 6, 2018 23:05:32 GMT -5
Maybe you dudes know. Whatever it was, it was poor!!!! All around!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 6, 2018 23:05:56 GMT -5
HOYAS COVER! HOYAS COVER! HOYAS COVER! I'm disgusted. But will be there Saturday. I'll be there too. Hopefully I'm over this loss by then. Don't know. I do think Ewing was out coached tonight. The plays out of timeouts were consistently bad, and the final play was uniquely awful. He's also clearly struggling to make the series of adjustments that coaches have to make throughout the game to win in this league. Providence kept tweaking and, late in the first and second halves, their changes showed. That being said, I'm trying to resist the urge to treat this as more than a frustrating loss. We were so bad earlier in the year that we had to just focus on getting better, not the nuanced type of things that a team needs to do to win a close game. We are also really hurting for depth, especially at the guard spots. Even so, the late game execution was at its worst tonight. I'll be ready to go on Saturday but man this is tough. He was outcoached last game as well!
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zxhoya
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Post by zxhoya on Feb 6, 2018 23:05:58 GMT -5
Jessie wide open again Jagan doesn't see him open sad sad sad two timeouts Hoyas. Ewing gets out coached again? I think your right Glide..i want to give Ewing every chance but cmon...cant just be the players every time... I don't understand why coach Ewing didn't put the ball in either Reggie Williams or Michael Jackson hands and let them create especially with Zo and Mutombo underneath ready for offensive rebounds. I'm ready to call it quits on coach Ewing, he's been coach long enough.
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Feb 6, 2018 23:06:15 GMT -5
We've lost a string of heartbreakers, for sure. But anyone who doesn't see a vast improvement from this team the last couple of weeks, well, that surprises me. Also, the notion that Ewing should be saddled with a rep as a college coach who can't close, may be slightly premature. Unless one would go so far as to say that Ewing should be already saddled with the rep of being a coach who gives up four point plays at the end of games, hard to argue with that...
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Feb 6, 2018 23:06:19 GMT -5
Lavin just broke it down simply after the game.
Guard-play.
We have guys that can hit jump shots at times. Jesse and Marcus can help us inside.
But nobody that can create their own shot. No dribble penetration. No facilitator.
And we can't get crucial stops. And we give up crucial second chance shots.
That is why we can't win close games.
Guards, guards, and more guards.
It is one thing to know how to finish. It is another thing in having the ability to finish.
Losing Marcus down the stretch hurt, but we need guards.
Still, we are improving. We are just hitting our ceiling right now. Dickerson, Mulmore, and Mosely are doing the best they can. You can't get mad at them. Proud of those guys. Applaud their effort. We just need more help.
Down the stretch in February, games get closer and more contested. We have a few strengths on this limited roster. However, the most vital components you need to close out games are our most glaring weaknesses.
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mfk24
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Post by mfk24 on Feb 6, 2018 23:06:27 GMT -5
We can all go on praying that the light goes on for Pat. But it doesn’t look like it’s going to. He has shown us NOTHING in late game situations. What is he doing? There are plenty of folks who can roll the ball out. We need more. All we’re seeing is red flags. He coached less than 25 games total! Good grief. This is clear agenda pushing and I really don’t understand the point. Ewing is gonna get 3+ seasons at least, to figure it out as the head coach of this team so either you hope he learns along the way, or you want to see him gain so you can say “I told you so”.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 6, 2018 23:06:28 GMT -5
Maybe you dudes know. Whatever it was, it was poor!!!! All around! Oh trust me I know.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 6, 2018 23:07:06 GMT -5
Some posters don't want to hear this but it is true, the 4th consecutive game lost with under a minute left For JTIII it was the NCAAT losses For Ewing it is end of game coaching Even the analysts are talking about the continual end of game execution problems. Correct but with jt3 it was more what our guards did remember chris wright was out and starks made a couple of bad decisions. Jte finally corrected the problem went out and got a true point guard in Waters. I regress. Yes. Lol
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