hoyaloya
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Post by hoyaloya on Dec 28, 2017 17:43:35 GMT -5
I received the most recent edition of the Georgetown Law Magazine and read that Senator George Mitchell had been “… honored with Georgetown University’s prestigious Timothy S. Healy, S.J. Award – given to just five distinguished alumni who have changed the course of humanity through service.” [Emphasis added] Law Dean Treanor chimed in: “Senator Mitchell has dedicated his life to supporting humanitarian causes and advancements for the betterment of mankind…He embodies the very best values of our community. [Emphasis added.] In the seventeen paragraphs of the article, there was not one mention of Mitchell’s role championing abortion. He was and is a supporter of Roe v. Wade’s abortion on demand and was the primary author of the Freedom of Choice Act which would have required state and federal laws to permanently codify abortion protections under Roe v. Wade.
But we will continue to hear the mantra that Georgetown embodies Jesuit and Catholic principles, although it is common knowledge that is not the truth. Today’s emails brought an article by a 2016 GU grad, Amber Athey. citing a number of facts including:
When President Donald Trump signed an executive order exempting religious groups from the Obamacare birth control mandate in 2017, Georgetown decided to continue coverage after a student protest. They didn’t announce the decision publicly, presumably because they wanted to appease the students while avoiding ire from the Catholic community…the university just approved “ Crossroads: Gender and Sexuality,” a new living and learning community for the 2018-19 school year. According to a student who submitted the proposal, students “will now begin to have a unique residential space dedicated to exploring and understanding themselves and others in relation to gender and sexuality.” The LLC will indubitably advance leftist views on transgenderism, gender neutrality, and same-sex marriage…Free speech is vital to any democratic society, and I am glad that students feel that they can talk about and advocate for their own beliefs, even if they differ from the Catholic Church. But Georgetown’s primary mission as a private Jesuit university is to advance Catholic ideals through education. I’m not the first person to notice the university’s descent into modern conceptions of social justice over its Catholic identity, and I’m sure I won’t be the last. My friends and I often joked that the school is “Catholic In Name Only.” [Emphasis added.] www.catholicvote.org/a-new-years-resolution-for-jesuit-universities/Richard M. Coleman C’57, GL ‘61
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blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 28, 2017 21:25:59 GMT -5
I am glad that Georgetown remains a university committed to fostering such dialogue. I feel that this position is wholly consistent with its Catholic and Jesuit character. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 29, 2017 14:21:34 GMT -5
I am glad that Georgetown remains a university committed to fostering such dialogue. I feel that this position is wholly consistent with its Catholic and Jesuit character. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam. You gotta be kidding.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 29, 2017 16:02:21 GMT -5
My friends and I often joked that the school is “Catholic In Name Only.” [Emphasis added.] Richard M. Coleman C’57, GL ‘61 I hope some day this becomes true.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 29, 2017 19:45:58 GMT -5
My friends and I often joked that the school is “Catholic In Name Only.” [Emphasis added.] Richard M. Coleman C’57, GL ‘61 I hope some day this becomes true. Understand you do not believe in God. Why, then, are you associated with a university which claims to be Catholic?
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 29, 2017 22:19:10 GMT -5
My beliefs have changed a lot since I was 18 years old. And, fortunately, belief or non-belief in a god is irrelevant at GU. And, it was at GU in some of my classes that I began to learn how to question that which I'd been told to accept without question and eventually break free of the absurdity that is religion. I have many reasons to be fond of Georgetown and that is one of the big ones. Georgetown is a great place but it's association with the catholic church is not great. We can't change the past but hopefully, over time, the link with one of the most backwards and criminal organizations the world has ever seen can be broken.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Dec 30, 2017 13:49:20 GMT -5
My beliefs have changed a lot since I was 18 years old. And, fortunately, belief or non-belief in a god is irrelevant at GU. And, it was at GU in some of my classes that I began to learn how to question that which I'd been told to accept without question and eventually break free of the absurdity that is religion. I have many reasons to be fond of Georgetown and that is one of the big ones. Georgetown is a great place but it's association with the catholic church is not great. We can't change the past but hopefully, over time, the link with one of the most backwards and criminal organizations the world has ever seen can be broken. Wow. Georgetown should abandon its identity and principles to suit you and your belief system. Self-absorbed much?
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 30, 2017 15:53:52 GMT -5
Georgetown should separate from the church not because I want them to (though obviously I do) but because the catholic church is an objectively bad organization based on insane superstition that has no place in the 21st century. Nobody should associate with the church (if you still do, you are complicit in their many crimes) and certainly not a progressive institute of higher education.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Dec 30, 2017 16:21:25 GMT -5
Georgetown should separate from the church not because I want them to (though obviously I do) but because the catholic church is an objectively bad organization based on insane superstition that has no place in the 21st century. Nobody should associate with the church (if you still do, you are complicit in their many crimes) and certainly not a progressive institute of higher education. A Catholic institution of higher education founded by and devoted to Church teachings. I applaud your atheism; I loathe your desire to impose it upon others.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 25, 2018 10:33:03 GMT -5
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