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Post by SSHoya on Dec 10, 2018 13:29:53 GMT -5
Butina to cop plea in USDC DC re: failing to register as a foreign agent for Russia and her NRA/lobbying activities (classic tradecraft using a "honey trap" with Butina as the "swallow"). Butina is also associated with Torshin, a Russian government official, also involved with the NRA. Torshin also had dinner or meetup with Donald Trump Jr., Coincidence, I'm sure. It's all perfectly normal for a hostile foreign power to have so many contacts with a Presidential campaign/administration, right? All part of a concerted full press Russian intelligence operation targeting Trump et al. But nothing to see here right, treasonous Republicans? Just bury your corrupt heads in the sand (or swamp) as the case may be. Follow you Individual 1 into the trashbin of history. Maria Butina, a Russian gun rights activist, is poised to plead guilty in a case involving accusations that she was working as an agent for the Kremlin in the United States, according to a new court filing. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-poised-to-plead-guilty-in-case-involving-kremlin-attempts-to-influence-nra/2018/12/10/3d91609e-f0f7-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.4cc690da4fcf
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 11, 2018 6:41:57 GMT -5
Must be fake news! Or maybe the pollsters were "smocking" something. As Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election inches closer to the President, approval of Donald Trump's handling of the investigation has fallen, matching its all-time low in CNN polling. The findings, from a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, come as half of Americans say they think it is likely that the Mueller investigation will implicate the president in wrongdoing. In the new poll, Trump's approval rating for handling the Russia investigation dips to 29%, matching a low previously hit in June of this year. But, while such outward displays of brash confidence may snooker his more gullible MAGA-hat-wearing supporters, the evidence is everywhere that a very different reality has begun to pierce the bubble. Meanwhile, new data shows that outside this bubble, majorities of the American people fully grasp that reality, and have done so for a long time now. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/11/trump-slides-new-poll-reality-begins-piercing-bubble/?utm_term=.404bc7497d7d
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 7:37:32 GMT -5
Butina to cop plea in USDC DC re: failing to register as a foreign agent for Russia and her NRA/lobbying activities (classic tradecraft using a "honey trap" with Butina as the "swallow"). Butina is also associated with Torshin, a Russian government official, also involved with the NRA. Torshin also had dinner or meetup with Donald Trump Jr., Coincidence, I'm sure. It's all perfectly normal for a hostile foreign power to have so many contacts with a Presidential campaign/administration, right? All part of a concerted full press Russian intelligence operation targeting Trump et al. But nothing to see here right, treasonous Republicans? Just bury your corrupt heads in the sand (or swamp) as the case may be. Follow you Individual 1 into the trashbin of history. Maria Butina, a Russian gun rights activist, is poised to plead guilty in a case involving accusations that she was working as an agent for the Kremlin in the United States, according to a new court filing. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-poised-to-plead-guilty-in-case-involving-kremlin-attempts-to-influence-nra/2018/12/10/3d91609e-f0f7-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.4cc690da4fcfBased on the above article it looks like Torshin was her handler. Throwback Tuesday:
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 11, 2018 7:46:31 GMT -5
Butina to cop plea in USDC DC re: failing to register as a foreign agent for Russia and her NRA/lobbying activities (classic tradecraft using a "honey trap" with Butina as the "swallow"). Butina is also associated with Torshin, a Russian government official, also involved with the NRA. Torshin also had dinner or meetup with Donald Trump Jr., Coincidence, I'm sure. It's all perfectly normal for a hostile foreign power to have so many contacts with a Presidential campaign/administration, right? All part of a concerted full press Russian intelligence operation targeting Trump et al. But nothing to see here right, treasonous Republicans? Just bury your corrupt heads in the sand (or swamp) as the case may be. Follow you Individual 1 into the trashbin of history. Maria Butina, a Russian gun rights activist, is poised to plead guilty in a case involving accusations that she was working as an agent for the Kremlin in the United States, according to a new court filing. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-poised-to-plead-guilty-in-case-involving-kremlin-attempts-to-influence-nra/2018/12/10/3d91609e-f0f7-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.4cc690da4fcfBased on the above article it looks like Torshin was her handler. Throwback Tuesday: Based upon my knowledge, training, and experience, I'll speculate that SCO has other intelligence gathered through national technical means (or from our allied intelligence agencies as you note above) regarding Trump allies, officials, surrogates and their various contacts with Russians (either RIS or cutouts/surrogates/co-optees) that corroborate much of what has been disclosed publicly in either Mueller's filings or the press. Some or all of that classified intelligence may never see the light of day as there is a policy at DOJ/FBI/NSA/CIA that if a matter may be disclosed publicly, it is incumbent upon the agency that "owns" the intel (OADR - "originating agency determines release" or "originating agency determination required") that such matter be legitimately ascribed to a public non-classified source if at all possible.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 11, 2018 11:45:48 GMT -5
David French, still a conservative (not sure he's still a Republican though but I believe he still is) in the National Review for those who insist I never cite to conservatives: It’s time to put a conspiracy theory to rest. It’s time to debunk a hoax. The conspiracy theory goes like this: The Trump-Russia investigation from its inception represented an attempt by Hillary Clinton’s allies in the federal government to intervene in the election to help Clinton. Everything that has followed is thus the fruit of a poisonous tree of efforts to entrap or ensnare innocent, unsuspecting Trump-campaign officials or Trump allies, with a prosecutor bent on “manufacturing” process crimes through various “perjury traps” and other nefarious means. The idea that the FBI used the Russia investigation to intervene in the election to hurt Trump and help Clinton has always strained credulity. After all, the Russia investigation remained secret during the election while the FBI not only publicly reopened the Hillary email investigation, it also confirmed the existence of an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation and exposed rifts with the Obama Department of Justice — casting the FBI as heroically resisting Obama-administration pressure to avoid any “overt steps” in the Clinton Foundation investigation during the campaign. Publicly the FBI torpedoed Clinton. Privately it investigated the Trump campaign. And now, with each new revelation from the Mueller investigation, we understand that claims of “entrapment” are increasingly bizarre. The more we learn about Trump World’s contacts with Russians or Russian operatives, the more astounding it becomes. www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/republicans-must-reject-russia-hoax-conspiracies-and-examine-the-evidence/
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 11, 2018 18:06:16 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 11, 2018 19:30:07 GMT -5
This question quickly spirals into an array of thorny subsidiary questions: if the president were to have committed such an offense, would the House of Representatives be driven to impeach him, or, because the institution answers only to itself for this choice, could it exercise quasi-prosecutorial discretion and decline to initiate proceedings? (Nadler drew a line between impeachable conduct and conduct “important enough to justify an impeachment.) If the Justice Department stands by its guidance that presidents cannot be indicted while in office, to what extent should Trump be worried about the possibility he will face charges immediately after departing office? And by what standard of proof should the House weigh the evidence if it were to consider potential impeachable offenses prior to any indictment? www.lawfareblog.com/does-trumps-involvement-cohen-payments-constitute-impeachable-offense
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 11, 2018 21:06:34 GMT -5
Looks like Butina is, uh, going down, as it were. . . Much of Butina’s work has been reported over the past year as part of a broader campaign by Moscow to influence U.S. elections — but new details are included in documents obtained by The Washington Post that will be filed in court Thursday, when Butina is expected to admit for the first time that her activities were part of a concerted endeavor, coordinated with a top Russian official with the express intent of establishing unofficial lines of communication with Americans who could influence U.S. politics. Butina, 30, is expected to tell a federal judge she worked hand-in-hand with an American Republican operative in her attempts to advance Russian interests, including in drafting the “Description of the Diplomacy Project” in 2015 that launched her efforts. He has been previously identified as Paul Erickson, a South Dakota consultant who has been active in Republican causes for years and who managed the 1992 presidential campaign of conservative pundit Pat Buchanan. Butina and Erickson have been romantically involved since they met while Erickson was visiting Moscow in 2013, her lawyer has said. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maria-butina-set-to-plead-guilty-to-conspiring-to-act-as-agent-of-kremlin-documents-shows/2018/12/11/91dc7464-fd62-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html?utm_term=.5312cf8f21ec
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 11, 2018 22:20:37 GMT -5
Looks like Butina is, uh, going down, as it were. . . Much of Butina’s work has been reported over the past year as part of a broader campaign by Moscow to influence U.S. elections — but new details are included in documents obtained by The Washington Post that will be filed in court Thursday, when Butina is expected to admit for the first time that her activities were part of a concerted endeavor, coordinated with a top Russian official with the express intent of establishing unofficial lines of communication with Americans who could influence U.S. politics. Butina, 30, is expected to tell a federal judge she worked hand-in-hand with an American Republican operative in her attempts to advance Russian interests, including in drafting the “Description of the Diplomacy Project” in 2015 that launched her efforts. He has been previously identified as Paul Erickson, a South Dakota consultant who has been active in Republican causes for years and who managed the 1992 presidential campaign of conservative pundit Pat Buchanan. Butina and Erickson have been romantically involved since they met while Erickson was visiting Moscow in 2013, her lawyer has said. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maria-butina-set-to-plead-guilty-to-conspiring-to-act-as-agent-of-kremlin-documents-shows/2018/12/11/91dc7464-fd62-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html?utm_term=.5312cf8f21ecLa di da, just more fake news, la di da, la di da. I'm starting to wonder what the over/under is on Trump's resignation. I wouldn't have said this a month ago, but the level of merde hitting the fan is increasing dramatically.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 12, 2018 6:07:23 GMT -5
Yesterday was the 50th Anniversary of Mutter's Ridge, the battle in which Mueller was awarded a Bronze Star with V device for valor having volunteered for Vietnam by joining the Marine Corps out of Princeton. Compare with Cadet Bone Spurs and his deferments, whose Vietnam was avoiding STDs during the 1980s. Character is destiny. IN THE NEXT few minutes, numerous men went down in Mueller’s unit. Maranto remembers being impressed that his relatively green lieutenant was able to stay calm while under attack. “He’d been in-country less than a month—most of us had been in-country six, eight months,” Maranto says. “He had remarkable composure, directing fire. It was sheer terror. They had RPGs, machine gun, mortars.” For Mueller, the battle had proved both to him and his men that he could lead. “The minute the sh*t hit the fan, he was there,” Maranto says. “He performed remarkably. After that night, there were a lot of guys who would’ve walked through walls for him.” www.wired.com/story/robert-mueller-vietnam/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 12:05:13 GMT -5
Something he and the Republican Party have in common... Minus the take responsibility part of course...
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 12, 2018 16:32:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 12:19:01 GMT -5
Witch Hunt!
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 13, 2018 12:26:35 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 13, 2018 14:47:14 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 13, 2018 16:09:17 GMT -5
WSJ and NBC News reporting that Trump was part of the conversation (physically present in the room) with Pecker and Cohen when discussing the hush money payments in August 2015 to keep his extramarital affairs quiet to benefit his campaign. Trump clearly in on the conspiracy to violate federal campaign finance laws. Heretofore, pleadings referenced only a "senior campaign official."
IMO, the DOJ policy of not indicting a sitting President should not apply when the indictment alleges a criminal conspiracy to defraud the American electorate of a fair election. To allow a President to have the protection of this policy is akin to a murderer who killed his parents to plead for mercy as he is an orphan. Unclean hands. GOP hypocrites still support this con man?
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 13, 2018 20:38:38 GMT -5
WSJ and NBC News reporting that Trump was part of the conversation (physically present in the room) with Pecker and Cohen when discussing the hush money payments in August 2015 to keep his extramarital affairs quiet to benefit his campaign. Trump clearly in on the conspiracy to violate federal campaign finance laws. Heretofore, pleadings referenced only a "senior campaign official." IMO, the DOJ policy of not indicting a sitting President should not apply when the indictment alleges a criminal conspiracy to defraud the American electorate of a fair election. To allow a President to have the protection of this policy is akin to a murderer who killed his parents to plead for mercy as he is an orphan. Unclean hands. GOP hypocrites still support this con man? He may have been "in the room," but he was probably daydreaming about having sex with these women again (What a day for a daydream...), and therefore didn't realize what was going on. Yep, that's the ticket.
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Post by njhoya78 on Dec 13, 2018 22:42:35 GMT -5
I guess he was in the room where it happened, the room where it happened, the room where it happened.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 14, 2018 6:22:02 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 14, 2018 7:07:24 GMT -5
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