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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 10:46:11 GMT -5
Hmmmmm....
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 5, 2017 16:42:38 GMT -5
Nope, nothing to see here. Nope, not at all. At this point, shouldn't we ask which Trump Administration officials don't have connections to Russians? And I see where Trump says he is meeting his handler in plain sight in Vietnam. No need for a brush pass, dead drop, or SDR given the circumstances. www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/world/wilbur-ross-russia.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0Trump confirmed that he expects to meet with Putin, probably on the sidelines of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Da Nang, later in the trip. The meeting would come as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia has heated up. Last week, Mueller indicted three people in Trump’s orbit — two senior campaign aides and one lower-level, unpaid volunteer — as part of his ongoing investigation. Good summary of all the Russian contacts by Trump's campaign officials or associates. Trump supporters/apologists/enablers keep moving that goal post. . . Trump in the past denied that he or his associates communicated with Russia during the campaign. Now, he and his allies are seeking to minimize the importance of the contacts that have emerged. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/at-least-nine-people-in-trumps-orbit-had-contact-with-russians-during-campaign-and-transition/2017/11/05/07c9993c-bf4c-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_russiatrump-640pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c8f512796798
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Post by tashoya on Nov 5, 2017 18:26:51 GMT -5
Yeah, but what about the Clintons?
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 6, 2017 8:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 11:13:12 GMT -5
Russian lawyer tells Bloomberg that Don Jr promised policy shifts favorable to Kremlin in exchange for Clinton dirt
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A lawyer for Trump Jr., Alan Futerfas, said the president’s son had no comment about the interview,
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 6, 2017 12:55:17 GMT -5
The charges that Flynn seems most likely to face are similar to some that were brought against Manafort. Like Manafort, Flynn did not register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act at the time he did work for foreign governments, though like Manafort, he retroactively registered. Like Manafort, who is charged with making false statements, Flynn may have lied to the FBI. Flynn was pushed out of his job as national-security adviser on February 14, making him the shortest-tenured holder of that job in history, after the Post revealed that he had lied to Vice President Mike Pence and others about conversations he had with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. But the paper later reported that Flynn had also lied to the FBI about those conversations. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/why-a-flynn-indictment-would-be-so-scary-for-the-white-house/545039/
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 7, 2017 7:04:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 10:59:29 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 10, 2017 17:53:25 GMT -5
You can't make this stuff up: The Wall Street Journal has another major story today regarding disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Reportedly, Special Counsel Robert Mueller is now investigating allegations that both Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn Jr., plotted to either kidnap and render Turkish clerk Fethullah Gulen to Turkey or to use Flynn’s influence as national security adviser to effectuate his extradition—all in exchange for up to $15 million. The Journal story is ambiguous as to what the plot actually was and the manner and time in which it might be executed. On the one hand, discussion of putting someone on a private jet in exchange for $15 million would indicate the Flynn’s were not discussing using legal processes here. There is a word in the English language lexicon for forcibly putting someone on a plane against his will outside of the legal systems that allow compulsion and seizure of persons: The word is kidnapping and it is an extremely serious offense. www.lawfareblog.com/what-make-latest-story-about-flynn-and-gulen
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 19:13:19 GMT -5
You can't make this stuff up: The Wall Street Journal has another major story today regarding disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Reportedly, Special Counsel Robert Mueller is now investigating allegations that both Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn Jr., plotted to either kidnap and render Turkish clerk Fethullah Gulen to Turkey or to use Flynn’s influence as national security adviser to effectuate his extradition—all in exchange for up to $15 million. The Journal story is ambiguous as to what the plot actually was and the manner and time in which it might be executed. On the one hand, discussion of putting someone on a private jet in exchange for $15 million would indicate the Flynn’s were not discussing using legal processes here. There is a word in the English language lexicon for forcibly putting someone on a plane against his will outside of the legal systems that allow compulsion and seizure of persons: The word is kidnapping and it is an extremely serious offense. www.lawfareblog.com/what-make-latest-story-about-flynn-and-gulenOnly the best people! America First!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 10:17:37 GMT -5
Trump says he believes Putin's election meddling denials Da Nang, Vietnam (CNN)President Donald Trump suggested on Saturday he's done confronting Russian President Vladimir Putin over his country's election meddling since it's insulting to the Russian leader. Trump said he took Putin at his word that Russia did not seek to interfere in the US presidential election last year, despite a finding from US intelligence agencies that it did. The fraught relations between the two leaders was underscored anew when Putin's spokesman said election meddling did not come up when they spoke, even though Trump said it did. www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/politics/president-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-election-meddling/index.htmlSo our president believes a KGB agent but not his own CIA. Happy Veterans Day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 10:34:21 GMT -5
Stephen Miller joins the party. NYT names the “senior policy adviser” from the Papadopolous plea filing as Stephen Miller. Recently he was at the center of Trump's deliberations to fire Comey. NYT: Papadopoulos was in regular contact that with top campaign officials, and also helped write Trump’s major foreign policy speech. ____ NEW: Cambridge Analytica had already deployed a team to work with Trump campaign and was in advanced contract negotiations with campaign when its CEO asked Assange to share Clinton emails Beyond publicly disclosed $5.9M Trump campaign paid Cambridge Analytica, firm got millions more, routed through Giles Parscale. www.wsj.com/articles/data-firms-wikileaks-outreach-came-as-it-joined-trump-campaign-1510339346 …
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 12, 2017 6:26:17 GMT -5
From all reports, Trump (aka Putin's Puppet) had a good meeting with his handler Putin, received his propaganda talking points, and repeated them to the assembled White House press corps. Congrats, treasonous spineless Republicans.
"He did not do what they are saying he did."
"They" being the USIC. If "they" are the USIC, who is "we" in Trump world --- the RIS?
Notwithstanding Trump's attempt to walk back a bit his statement, the damage is already done since it sows confusion and ambiguity with respect to the US position on Russia.
Trump apologists/enablers/supporters, congrats on supporting one of the most successful Russian covert intelligence operations targeting the United States.
(Give Romney his due --- he was correct in the 2012 Presidential campaign when he observed that Russia was the greatest geopolitical threat in the future during the debates, which Obama dismissed with the comment that "The 1980s called and wants its foreign policy back." However, both Bush (who looked into Putin's eyes) and even Obama (with his "more flexibility" after the election comment) eventually realized that they were wrong -- it is apparent that Trump never will because he is never wrong and only he can fix it -- whatever "it" is).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 8:58:08 GMT -5
Brookings Institution national security expert: Trump is Putin’s “useful idiot.” www.politico.com/story/2017/11/11/trump-russia-putin-people-will-die-244801 … "The worst part of this is not that Trump takes Putin's word over the evidence based analysis of his own intelligence agencies. It is not even that he plays the role of a useful idiot as he kowtows to Putin yet again. The worst part, by far, is that a hostile power is engaged in an ongoing attack on America's political system and Trump is deliberately stripping the nation's defenses bare and leaving us exposed to future assaults. It is unilateral disarmament plain and simple,” said Thomas Wright, Director of the Center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution and an expert in national security. "We have never seen this type of weakness in a U.S. president before." _ "I would never trust Putin’s word over the considered, high-confidence judgment of the Intelligence Community. Putin is a trained liar and manipulator. He’s comes across as believable because he is so good at deception. And, the President is biting hook, line, and sinker," he said. "Much progress had been made in that relationship since the early days, but this will most definitely will be a step backward."
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Post by MassHoya on Nov 12, 2017 9:17:59 GMT -5
I guess America First means believing a Russian KGB spy and murderer over the consensus of your own American intelligence advisors, which opinion also was held by the Obama advisors. In fact, there is no one except Trump and Putin who refute that Russia interfered in the election.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 12, 2017 15:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 13, 2017 6:13:43 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 13, 2017 8:36:34 GMT -5
I guess America First means believing a Russian KGB spy and murderer over the consensus of your own American intelligence advisors, which opinion also was held by the Obama advisors. In fact, there is no one except Trump and Putin who refute that Russia interfered in the election. Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Trump say he believed that Putin believed the Russians did not interfere in the election? That is completely different from saying he, himself, did not believe the Russians interfered. And didn't the MSM misquote or misinterpret what he said?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 8:49:49 GMT -5
I guess America First means believing a Russian KGB spy and murderer over the consensus of your own American intelligence advisors, which opinion also was held by the Obama advisors. In fact, there is no one except Trump and Putin who refute that Russia interfered in the election. Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Trump say he believed that Putin believed the Russians did not interfere in the election? That is completely different from saying he, himself, did not believe the Russians interfered. And didn't the MSM misquote or misinterpret what he said? Trump called leaders of the US intelligence community "political hacks", while squirming around this tortured language related to what he thinks Putin believes. But, yeah, the media is the problem here.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 13, 2017 9:14:25 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Trump say he believed that Putin believed the Russians did not interfere in the election? That is completely different from saying he, himself, did not believe the Russians interfered. And didn't the MSM misquote or misinterpret what he said? Trump called leaders of the US intelligence community "political hacks", while squirming around this tortured language related to what he thinks Putin believes. But, yeah, the media is the problem here. Yes, "political hacks: Lieutenant General James Clapper. Of course, I'd believe Don "Bone Spurs" Trump over this guy. The Honorable James R. Clapper, Jr. served as the Director of National Intelligence at Office of the Director of National Intelligence from August 9, 2010 to January 20, 2017. As DNI, The Honorable Clapper leads the United States Intelligence Community and serves as the Principal Intelligence Advisor to the President. He retired in 1995 after a distinguished career in the U.S. Armed Forces. His career began as a rifleman in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve and culminated as a Lieutenant General in the U.S. Air Force and Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. His intelligence-related positions over his 32 years in uniform included Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence at U.S. Air Force Headquarters during Operations Desert Shield/Desert Storm and Director of Intelligence for three war-fighting commands: U.S. Forces Korea, Pacific Command and Strategic Air Command. Of note, he also served two combat tours during the Southeast Asia conflict and flew 73 combat support missions in EC-47s over Laos and Cambodia. Directly following his retirement, he worked in industry for six years as an executive in three successive companies with his business focus being the Intelligence Community. He also served as a Consultant and Advisor to Congress and to the Departments of Defense and Energy and as a Member of a wide variety of government panels, boards, commissions and advisory groups. He was a Member of the Downing Assessment Task Force that investigated the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996 and served as Vice Chairman of a commission chaired by former Governor Jim Gilmore of Virginia on the subject of homeland security. He returned to the government in September 2001 as the First Civilian Director of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA). He served as Director of National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA). Prior to becoming the Director of National Intelligence, he served for over three years in two Administrations as the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, where he served as the Principal Staff Assistant and Advisor to the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense on intelligence, counterintelligence and security matters for the Department. He was also dual-hatted as the Director of Defense Intelligence for DNI. He served as a Director of GeoEye, Inc. from October 10, 2006 to April 13, 2007. His awards include three National Intelligence Distinguished Service Medals, two Defense Distinguished Service Medals, the Air Force Distinguished Service Medal, the Coast Guard’s Distinguished Public Service Award, the Department of Defense Distinguished Civilian Service Award and a host of other U.S. military and foreign government awards and decorations. He was named as one of the Top 100 Information Technology Executives by Federal Computer Week in 2001 and has been singled out by the NAACP in the form of its National Distinguished Service Award and has been awarded the Presidentially-conferred National Security Medal. The Honorable Clapper earned a Bachelor’s Degree in Government and Politics from the University of Maryland, a Master’s degree in Political Science from St. Mary’s University, San Antonio, Texas and an Honorary Doctorate in Strategic Intelligence from the then Joint Military Intelligence College.
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