Massholya
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Post by Massholya on May 20, 2022 12:00:16 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 24, 2022 15:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on May 24, 2022 16:50:34 GMT -5
This is absolutely horrific. Republicans around the country should be ashamed of their party and the 2nd Amendment cuckoos in state legislatures that have allowed gun violence in this country to devolve to this point. It is more than past time for reasonable federal gun laws that prevent the rampant sale of guns and high capacity magazines in this country with little to no questions asked. |
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Post by Massholya on May 24, 2022 17:00:42 GMT -5
Which kid or whose kid will it take before people stop “voting with their wallets”? Truly a sad America that we have become. Texas lawmakers already saying the answer is “more guns”. Jesus, it’s so sick.
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Post by SSHoya on May 24, 2022 17:20:41 GMT -5
MAGA GOP response from still-indicted Texas AG:
In an interview with the conservative channel Newsmax, Attorney General Ken Paxton suggested that the solution to school shootings is arming teachers. It’s not the first time such a policy has been proposed: In the aftermath of the shooting in Parkland, Fla., President Donald Trump had suggested that school shootings could be stopped by giving educators firearms. Texas is one of the only states that permits districts to arm teachers, although it’s not clear how many districts have taken advantage of the provision.
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HoyaNyr320
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on May 24, 2022 18:01:34 GMT -5
Where is the sense of shame from such morally bankrupt politicians and gun groups? I'm completely ashamed each time this happens in our country. We can do better, and we deserve better than "thoughts and prayers".
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Post by SSHoya on May 24, 2022 18:15:49 GMT -5
Where is the sense of shame from such morally bankrupt politicians and gun groups? I'm completely ashamed each time this happens in our country. We can do better, and we deserve better than "thoughts and prayers". From seven years ago. Although somewhat arguably diminished because of recent scandals, the NRA still holds sway over the MAGA GOP as guns have been part of the GOP playbook in the culture wars. The National Rifle Association, the all-powerful guardian of Americans' gun rights and driving force of America's pro-gun policies, is arguably more influential than ever. It has largely dominated and pretty much won the modern-day gun-control war. It has wielded its dollars and political influence over lawmakers in both parties to ensure Congress doesn't pass even a limited (and polls show, popular) expansion of gun-control laws such as universal background checks. And it has withstood the charge even as the country deals with an average mass shooting a day in 2015. It's now safe to say the NRA is one of the most powerful lobbying organizations of all time. And according to the latest Pew Research poll, Republicans are overwhelming in favor of that. www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/14/the-nra-ification-of-the-republican-party/ |
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Post by SSHoya on May 24, 2022 20:47:59 GMT -5
DALLAS — In an emotional address hours after a mass shooting at a Uvalde, Tex., elementary school Tuesday, Golden State Warriors Coach Steve Kerr criticized congressional leaders for their inaction on gun control legislation. “When are we going to do something?” Kerr said during a news conference before Game 4 of the Western Conference finals. “I’m tired. I’m so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families that are out there. I’m tired of the moments of silence. Enough. There’s 50 senators, right now, who refuse to vote on H.R. 8, which is a background check rule that the House passed [last year]. ... There’s a reason they won’t vote on it: to hold on to power. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/05/24/steve-kerr-uvalde-background-checks/ |
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Post by hoyarooter on May 24, 2022 20:49:45 GMT -5
This is absolutely horrific. Republicans around the country should be ashamed of their party and the 2nd Amendment cuckoos in state legislatures that have allowed gun violence in this country to devolve to this point. It is more than past time for reasonable federal gun laws that prevent the rampant sale of guns and high capacity magazines in this country with little to no questions asked. They should be, but they won't be. Just more collateral damage, and perhaps not even that, given those who were killed. |
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Post by tashoya on May 24, 2022 22:47:34 GMT -5
I guess "voting your wallet" is far more important than a wildly misconstrued interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that allows nearly unfettered access to firearms. How much money saved in taxes is enough to justify not supporting sensible reform and how many kids need to die for you folks to support rational reform? With the money you save in taxes, are you donating those savings to worthy causes or, like those you vote into office, are you just looking our for yourselves? Those voting with their wallets need the least help. And, while you should make sure you and your family are taken care of, if you qualify for "Republican" favoritism financially, you're doing just fine comparatively speaking. What's your second reason for voting for this insanity because the first one holds no water. If abortion is your second reason (Ed), you're also on exceedingly shaky ground. If you believe life begins at conception, you don't have much in the way of understanding of science. And, please do explain why you don't give a rip about kids that actually are born. Especially ones that aren't white. If you continue to vote for people that think the solution to bad people with guns is good people with guns, please admit that you just don't care because that "argument" is beyond stupid and isn't remotely based in fact or reality. On this board not that many years ago, we all hoped and prayed that Elvado's son would, miraculously, recover and thrive. He did with excellent care and, by all accounts, the best doctors at his bedside. Meanwhile, apparently, a family that endured that unimaginable scare is okay with voting for people that aren't flustered in the least by children going to school on a, seemingly, normal Tuesday and getting cut down. Their response is what exactly? Sad, but we need more guns. Appalling and disgusting. Sadly, those kids weren't diagnosed with anything but being kids and there wasn't any time for doctors to jump in to save lives. I'm not meaning to pick on Elvado specifically but he knows what it's like to be beyond scared about the mortality of his child. I'd think he'd vote for anything he could to save another parent from that particular fear. It's not okay to normalize children dying at school or from cancer. Why it's necessary to write that particular sentence should be a source of shame for us all. The fact that we can't unite behind that very simple aim is well beyond my understanding. It broke my heart when I read Elvado's initial post about Harry. 19 children weren't diagnosed with anything life-threatening this morning other than attending a public school with egregiously lenient gun laws. They didn't know they were diagnosed as terminal when they showed up at school. They, and their families, didn't know their diagnoses would play out before the end of school today. I don't believe in God and, in situations like this, I find it difficult to believe that anyone else can either. I can't imagine what those families are going through. But, I wish them some semblance of peace however they can find it.
Ed, if you care about human life, please show some outrage about this. Sadly, you have more than one opportunity a week to do so. Yet, while you profess to be Christian and you profess to value human life, you never have a thing to say about these things. I don't mean that to call you out, specifically. Anyone that thinks like you will do. I mean to say that when you do chime in about how you value the sanctity of human life, it rings hollow because of your silence in that regard outside of abortion rights. I don't recall a single post of yours about your outrage with regard to someone that died for no reason that had been, ya know, actually born.
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Post by SSHoya on May 25, 2022 5:07:25 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on May 25, 2022 6:33:34 GMT -5
Sad but oh so true.
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Post by tashoya on May 25, 2022 7:30:51 GMT -5
This is absolutely horrific. Republicans around the country should be ashamed of their party and the 2nd Amendment cuckoos in state legislatures that have allowed gun violence in this country to devolve to this point. It is more than past time for reasonable federal gun laws that prevent the rampant sale of guns and high capacity magazines in this country with little to no questions asked. Ted Cruz is scheduled to speak Friday at the NRA's annual meeting in Houston. I don't think he's going to speak about his level of shame. |
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Post by tashoya on May 25, 2022 7:32:02 GMT -5
MAGA GOP response from still-indicted Texas AG: In an interview with the conservative channel Newsmax, Attorney General Ken Paxton suggested that the solution to school shootings is arming teachers. It’s not the first time such a policy has been proposed: In the aftermath of the shooting in Parkland, Fla., President Donald Trump had suggested that school shootings could be stopped by giving educators firearms. Texas is one of the only states that permits districts to arm teachers, although it’s not clear how many districts have taken advantage of the provision. Most teachers I know can't teach and they went to school to learn to do that. Sure, just give them guns. I'm sure that'll go well. |
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Post by tashoya on May 25, 2022 7:32:50 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on May 25, 2022 8:16:02 GMT -5
I just don’t get the guns thing.
No one, repeat no one, should have an automatic or semi-automatic weapon except police and military personnel.
No one, repeat no one, should be able to purchase a gun without a background check and waiting period.
Personal ownership of guns has nothing to do with a “well-regulated” militia.
Anything else is just nonsense.
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Post by SSHoya on May 25, 2022 8:25:19 GMT -5
Good kernels of truth in this abstract. A culture change is needed. It took over 50 years to change the tobacco culture and it will take as long to change the gun culture as much like tobacco, the NRA, gun industry and MAGA GOP have conflated guns and the 2nd Amendment with "freedom and liberty." The exact same marketing scheme was employed by Big Tobacco. This article compares the landscape of tobacco regulations to the landscape of gun regulations, with a focus on regulations that target youth. This article argues that guns are significantly less regulated compared to tobacco, despite the frequency with which each product causes significant harm to both self and other. www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-law-medicine-and-ethics/article/abs/gun-regulation-exceptionalism-and-adolescent-violence-a-comparison-to-tobacco/A220D5EBD38427BEAA60D54CAAD9D508Not that long ago, cigarettes were completely woven into American culture. The Marlboro Man, posters telling us: “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette,” even the armrests on planes and all our cars were designed for smokers. “While tobacco companies — like gun manufacturers — spent a lot of money trying to create a narrative that those working to reduce tobacco use were depriving people of their ‘right to smoke’ or at least their right to ‘choose’ to smoke, they were never able to mobilize smokers because so many of them regretted ever having become addicted,” Myers said. Gun manufacturers don’t want to talk about dead kids in schools; they’re framing the issue as one about individual rights and freedom. www.washingtonpost.com/local/can-americans-ditch-guns-the-way-we-ditched-cigarettes/2018/05/21/c5394db0-5cfd-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html |
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Post by SSHoya on May 25, 2022 9:01:48 GMT -5
MAGA GOP response from still-indicted Texas AG: In an interview with the conservative channel Newsmax, Attorney General Ken Paxton suggested that the solution to school shootings is arming teachers. It’s not the first time such a policy has been proposed: In the aftermath of the shooting in Parkland, Fla., President Donald Trump had suggested that school shootings could be stopped by giving educators firearms. Texas is one of the only states that permits districts to arm teachers, although it’s not clear how many districts have taken advantage of the provision. Most teachers I know can't teach and they went to school to learn to do that. Sure, just give them guns. I'm sure that'll go well. The MAGA GOP is so confused. Apparently, the demented MAGA GOP wants to arm the very same teachers who they have accused of "grooming" children for pedophilia and teaching "critical race theory"?? Huh? |
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Post by hoyajinx on May 25, 2022 10:29:00 GMT -5
Republican congresspeople, and dare I say Republicans in general, are simply the dumbest and worst this country has to offer. Paul Gosar is currently blaming a “leftist trans illegal immigrant” for the shooting, and it’s spreading like wildfire on the right. You know, wrap all the demons in one package and blame them for it despite it having no relationship to reality. I absolutely abhor these people. www.vice.com/amp/en/article/5dgnbq/texas-school-shooting-far-right-trans-woman |
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Post by SSHoya on May 25, 2022 11:01:02 GMT -5
There's a sickness in the country exemplified by the MAGA GOP cult.
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