DallasHoya
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Post by DallasHoya on Jul 24, 2020 15:10:52 GMT -5
No, all good I understand your thought process, I just thought that was pretty funny. As for Mohammed, yes he and Mutombo would be my ideal two. But, with this being 2021 and transfers being so common, I'd expect that at least someone (not going to speculate on who) ends up transferring. It's just how college basketball is at this point. I'd expect us to have at least three openings. If we only have the two, I'd be pleasantly surprised. But, if I had to pick two guys, in a perfect world, I'm taking Mohammed and Mutombo. Mohammed is a very talented prospect and has shown interest in the program and I think he's a guy the staff should really go after. He's a kid who could make the 2021-22 team so much better. That could change the direction of the program and with him showing significant interest, I think you have to go after him hard. Also, I think that some of those guys (Mohammed, Clark, Carey) can all play the three and you just can't pass on the kind of talent Mohammed is. I also think Berger or Carey could be a backup PG and the rotation could work itself out. But I mean if we get Mutombo and Smith as the last two and I'm not complaining. But, I think the staff would be incredibly foolish not to go try to get Mohammed. To be honest, I really like our team just the way that it is meaning (no transfers!!!). I don't want to see anyone transfer out; I like the nucleus of players we have. I think we have enough talent with the freshmen we have on out team, and who will be sophomores by next year. If we get Mohammed and Mutombo, my lord, we will be atop the Big East in not time! With that in mind and no transfers, can I get a starting lineup from you and maybe go five deep please? The reason why I say five deep is because I can see a whole lot of guys playing easily. I see this as the 1982 Hoyas with the depth of the team. I'm easily seeing twelve guys playing, on a nightly basis, to be quite honest. I say this because I see each one of these guys having unique skills that can benefit the team. I wanna see that Hoya full court pressure that the Hoyas used to play back when coach was a player. You need plenty of guards to make that happen. Anyways, there I go fantasizing again. I was going to go on about how you can use everyone of these kids unique talents but I digressed. Let me get a starting five from you and a five deep please. Uh, the 1982 team had one HOF (Ewing), two lottery picks (Ewing and Floyd), a third #1 pick off the bench (Anthony Jones), a 2nd round pick off the bench (Bill Martin) a pre-knee injury Fred Brown, and probably the best glue guy in Hoya history (Eric Smith). We're not quite there there yet. |
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Post by dchoya72 on Jul 24, 2020 15:21:58 GMT -5
I would like Efton Reid or Holmgren more than Mutombo at this point both play outside/in, 4/5. Nothing against Mutombo!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 15:25:54 GMT -5
To be honest, I really like our team just the way that it is meaning (no transfers!!!). I don't want to see anyone transfer out; I like the nucleus of players we have. I think we have enough talent with the freshmen we have on out team, and who will be sophomores by next year. If we get Mohammed and Mutombo, my lord, we will be atop the Big East in not time! With that in mind and no transfers, can I get a starting lineup from you and maybe go five deep please? The reason why I say five deep is because I can see a whole lot of guys playing easily. I see this as the 1982 Hoyas with the depth of the team. I'm easily seeing twelve guys playing, on a nightly basis, to be quite honest. I say this because I see each one of these guys having unique skills that can benefit the team. I wanna see that Hoya full court pressure that the Hoyas used to play back when coach was a player. You need plenty of guards to make that happen. Anyways, there I go fantasizing again. I was going to go on about how you can use everyone of these kids unique talents but I digressed. Let me get a starting five from you and a five deep please. Uh, the 1982 team had one HOF (Ewing), two lottery picks (Ewing and Floyd), a third #1 pick off the bench (Anthony Jones), a 2nd round pick off the bench (Bill Martin) a pre-knee injury Fred Brown, and probably the best glue guy in Hoya history (Eric Smith). We're not quite there there yet. Dude, I'm talking about how they played. I'm not talking about personalities. I'm saying with all the guards that we have we can run the full court press like they did back in 82 (Hoya Paranoia!). By the way besides Ewing, Eric Smith and Gene Smith were my favorite guys on that team. Anthony "Redds" Jones was a shooter who we let get away and hurt us in my opinion. Anyways, I am not talking about personnel or talent wise like what you're trying to say by name dropping. I am just talking about bodies and one defensive style that we can play because of the number of guards we have. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 15:46:47 GMT -5
It is so nice to see our board guys with some enthusiasm and in good spirits. With all the positive chatter going on in the threads, it seems like everyone is happy now. Yaaaaay!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 24, 2020 15:49:25 GMT -5
It is so nice to see our board guys with some enthusiasm and in good spirits. With all the positive chatter going on in the threads, it seems like everyone is happy now. Yaaaaay! Savor the flavor while it lasts. We will be at each other's virtual throats again soon! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 15:55:48 GMT -5
It is so nice to see our board guys with some enthusiasm and in good spirits. With all the positive chatter going on in the threads, it seems like everyone is happy now. Yaaaaay! Savor the flavor while it lasts. We will be at each other's virtual throats again soon! LOL!!!!! |
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Post by mdtd on Jul 24, 2020 19:52:12 GMT -5
Obviously, I wouldn't want anyone to transfer either. I'd love to see the current group succeed. But, I think as a coach you have to plan for at least someone. And of coursem if someone goes pro who wasn't expected to, we don't complain because that means we probably had a pretty good season and the kid is going to have success which I'd love to see. That being said, I'll get into that lineup with Mutombo and Mohammed. Man, you're asking a lot out of me lol. I'd go with Carey-Riley-Mohammed-Sibley-Q Beard-Mutombo-Clark-Harris-Tim/Malcolm To elaborate, I'd go with that group starting with Beard playing a Lou Will like role off of the bench (I just think this role fits him better than Riley) and Mutombo as the next guy off the bench playing both big spots. I think those are the core seven, all playing a good amount of minutes. I'm not going to do a minutes breakdown of a lineup we may potentially have, but just imagine those guys all play 20+ minutes. I wouldn't be shocked if Beard starts over Carey or Riley, or if Mutombo starts over Sibley . Then I'd add Clark, Harris and Malcolm/Tim (take your pick, or both) just off of what I've seen so far. I could be completely wrong and off base, especially without seeing 9 of these guys play minutes in a Hoyas jersey, but this is my take as of now (which can and will change). Your ten sounds good to me. At first I was thinking of Riley as a SG but in an article I read, he thinks of himself as a PG. His father even calls him the quarterback for this team. I already know that they are expecting him to start right off jump. I have to admit, I didn't necessarily having him start in his first year. However, because of all the expectations about him being able to give our team a boost, I guess he would start in year 1. With that being said, here is my 12 and that includes your guy Mohammed and Mutombo. I expect all of the kids to play with about 7 role playing. Starting five: I got the same five you came up with. Mutombo Beard Holloway Harris Berger Tim Clark Malcolm. I see the five maybe avg just about 20 mins and the all that I mentioned from the remaining bench all playing significant roles and getting time each night. Yikes! Switch Clark for Holloway. I forgot Kobe plays defense. I favor the defensive minded guy over the offensive minded guy. I like Holloway a lot because of his ability to get to the rim and I believe that he is a better o-guy than Clark but I believe Clark will play better d. However, who knows? Switch Clark and Holloway on a night by night need by need basis. I think there's a worry about having a rotation this big. I'm not sure if teams can have 12 guys looking for and expecting minuter every night as I think it could really affect team chemistry and how certain guys view their role. There are so many guys seeing the floor and most will think they need more minutes before they buy into their roles, especially if the team isn't winning. I think our team saw this first hand where when we went from 11 to 9 and even to 7, we were just that much better. That team had chemistry, they played on the same page and all bought in. The team with 11 had many guys asking for minutes. I think we'd reach that issue again. And while that's not why everyone transferred, I still don't think that leads to success. If you look at a team like Texas also (last season), the reason they went on their big run was because they had guys get hurt and Shaka had to shrink the rotation out of necessity and the team played on the same page and actually looked like the top 25 team they were ranked as. Typically, I don't like seeing college teams have a rotation of more than 10 guys. I'm not saying it can't work, but it could be disjointed and just feel off, which is not something that I think our team should go through again. |
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 24, 2020 20:44:20 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 24, 2020 20:52:28 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Jul 24, 2020 21:23:52 GMT -5
Let's be honest. We're not going anywhere unless the defense is significantly improved. I take it as a step in the right direction that Jordan Riley mentioned, "Playing crazy defense," when asked about how he's been told he's going to be used.
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Post by hoyanewyorka on Jul 25, 2020 8:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 11:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 12:07:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 16:54:56 GMT -5
In addition to the Sun Devils, Billingsley has reportedly attracted an offer from Akron, Dayton, Georgetown, Penn State, Temple, Virginia Tech, West Virginia and Youngstown State. He said he has had Zoom, FaceTime or phone calls with each program and has taken virtual tours with Temple and Georgetown. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 17:03:13 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 26, 2020 17:39:52 GMT -5
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Post by dense on Jul 26, 2020 17:50:29 GMT -5
Praying we have a shot here. This kid will be a helluva hybrid 4 wherever he goes |
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jul 26, 2020 17:56:23 GMT -5
Praying we have a shot here. This kid will be a helluva hybrid 4 wherever he goes Agree complete stud... Did he ever reduce his list beyond a top 10 or is that still essentially the list? |
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Post by hoyanewyorka on Jul 26, 2020 19:03:30 GMT -5
In addition to the Sun Devils, Billingsley has reportedly attracted an offer from Akron, Dayton, Georgetown, Penn State, Temple, Virginia Tech, West Virginia and Youngstown State. He said he has had Zoom, FaceTime or phone calls with each program and has taken virtual tours with Temple and Georgetown. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 19:57:58 GMT -5
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