RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 26, 2024 16:05:13 GMT -5
I would say that once the number of portal commitments per day exceeds the number of portal entrants per day for a few days in a row--ie. the portal is beginning to dwindle--and we've still got significant roster gaps (ie. no point guard!), then it's time to worry. Until then, as much as we are all craving the dopamine boost of a big commitment, just gotta hang in there. For now, the number of portal entrants per day continues to outstrip the number of commitments by a significant margin.
Malik Mack's last game was March 5th and he just hit the portal today, 3 weeks later. Sometimes there's no obvious rhyme or reason for the timing of this stuff. Several teams are still playing, the coaching carousel is still turning, and all that churn is going to shake out more portal entrants. Many of the guys that Trilly suspected would transfer have entered the portal but many have not yet. There's still a lot of action to come. Very early in the process and still a lot of really good players on the board with more likely to come.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2024 16:12:09 GMT -5
I could care less about the sniping and handwringing. In the end, it’s about signing recruits to fill the roster. We have 4 to 5 scholarships available (that we know) and we have no idea how many Cooley wants to leave open (because he hasn’t said so). Last year, the fact is the off-season signings started on March 28th, not April 8-10th. As stated, I want commitments, in general regardless of where they come from, as soon as possible to start the momentum/rebuild. We need a very good piece to fall that hopefully will attract others. I see your point, but I think it all depends on where you start. The program was in a different position last year, with Ewing essentially having no freshman incoming class, a coaching change and Drew Fielder following Cooley on 3/28/2023 (and Mulready a day later)--but he committed to Providence on September 20, 2022. That's really more akin to Thomas Sorber committing on May 17, 2023. Point being, they are different beasts. One is freshman recruiting, one is getting guys from the portal. They are very much different things. (Very few schools get commitments from freshman this late unless there are coaching changes.) But the bigger point is we have a big roster to fill and I think we'll all feel better about it once we get a good commitment or two. There are always the nerves that we aren't going to get anybody. I have more faith that we will do well in the portal this year than last year. Nor do I see Cooley leaving open 2-3 scholarships, but you are right he has not commented on that. The biggest value of a quick top commitment is what you said last--someone who will the others. For a program that has struggled, we could really stand to get a break on something like that. The problem with the higher value NIL guys is that they're more likely to stretch things out to increase their bidding price. But you never know--some guys aren't made that way. Will I be nervous until we begin filling the roster? Absolutely. (NOTE: I realize it was a few years ago and everything seems to be moving faster now, but Hopkins committed to Providence on April 25, and Carter on April 17 two years ago.)
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Post by saxagael on Mar 26, 2024 16:32:37 GMT -5
I’ve honestly stopped coming to hoyatalk as a result of a few horrible posters…who recycle and regurgitate the same vitriol over and over again. Instead, I now just have a weekly call with Cooley and don’t share any of it. Worth it for some who post here to read this again. This is not the only person who feels this way. The use of "block" can help sanity.
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Post by kettlehill on Mar 26, 2024 16:51:58 GMT -5
The fact that Georgetown is mentioned as a contact with any portaler of any value might not be a good look. Kind of dilutes the value, no? I was hoping that Cooley learned his lesson from last year. I still hope so. We all know that Georgetown is a desparate program: maybe better not to emphasize it loudly.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 26, 2024 16:54:04 GMT -5
The fact that Georgetown is mentioned as a contact with any portaler of any value might not be a good look. Kind of dilutes the value, no? I was hoping that Cooley learned his lesson from last year. I still hope so. We all know that Georgetown is a desparate program: maybe better not to emphasize it loudly. Huh? The players/agents provide those lists. Cooley can't do anything about it.
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Post by dense on Mar 26, 2024 17:06:35 GMT -5
The fact that Georgetown is mentioned as a contact with any portaler of any value might not be a good look. Kind of dilutes the value, no? I was hoping that Cooley learned his lesson from last year. I still hope so. We all know that Georgetown is a desparate program: maybe better not to emphasize it loudly. Arkansas basically spam calls everyone. Doesn't hurt them.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 26, 2024 17:31:22 GMT -5
I could care less about the sniping and handwringing. In the end, it’s about signing recruits to fill the roster. We have 4 to 5 scholarships available (that we know) and we have no idea how many Cooley wants to leave open (because he hasn’t said so). Last year, the fact is the off-season signings started on March 28th, not April 8-10th. As stated, I want commitments, in general regardless of where they come from, as soon as possible to start the momentum/rebuild. We need a very good piece to fall that hopefully will attract others. That's easy to say when you're the one doing the sniping and handwringing. The fact that Fielder signed in late March has no bearing whatsoever on the question of whether we should be worried that no transfers have committed yet, and does nothing to refute the point that our transfer signees last year came well into April. It's a complete red herring. I've made multiple posts here saying that I hope someone commits soon to build some momentum, and I too can't help but feel nervous with each passing day and no commitments. But the fact of the matter is that most portalers don't sign with new schools this early. Sixteen teams (24 if you count the NIT teams) are still playing, so some players haven't even had the chance to hit the portal yet. There's nothing alarming about the fact that we haven't yet locked anyone up, and the fact that a high-school recruit signed in March last year is completely irrelevant to that question. If we still don't have any portal commitments in two weeks? Yeah, then we should be worried. It’s not sniping and handwringing to say that the roster construction last year started on March 28th with Drew’s signature. The fact is he was the first to sign in the off-season after Cooley’s arrival. The fact is that the roster construction didn’t start with the portal recruits. My question is available scholarships vs. where the recruits are coming from. My focus is not just on the transfer portal. I mentioned several ways to build the roster. Hopefully, Cooley is exploring all the abovementioned avenues. Btw, I will not be worried until late summer. If Cooley has the big bag, then he could take a shot at the players who try out for the NBA, but take their names of the board. That’s why he should keep one (maybe two, depending on other signings) scholarship(s) available.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 26, 2024 18:33:04 GMT -5
I’ve honestly stopped coming to hoyatalk as a result of a few horrible posters…who recycle and regurgitate the same vitriol over and over again. Instead, I now just have a weekly call with Cooley and don’t share any of it. Worth it for some who post here to read this again. This is not the only person who feels this way. Unfortunately I don't imagine it will change anything Then again, just as with getting a spot in the Tournament - it never hurts to dream a little!
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 26, 2024 18:40:36 GMT -5
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Post by jackofjoy on Mar 26, 2024 21:08:51 GMT -5
Dudes who shoot lights out beyond the arc at a low/mid-major … what could go wrong. And dudes from Fairfield have agents - fun times!
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Mar 27, 2024 10:21:02 GMT -5
Our old friend Eddie Lampkin is back on the market - leaving Colorado.
Amazingly only had 5 total blocks this year in over 1000 minutes of action. Makes Supreme look like Theo Ratliff.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 27, 2024 11:21:38 GMT -5
Recruiting never stops and there are very few headstarts..
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 27, 2024 11:24:44 GMT -5
Our old friend Eddie Lampkin is back on the market - leaving Colorado. Amazingly only had 5 total blocks this year in over 1000 minutes of action. Makes Supreme look like Theo Ratliff. Meanwhile Colorado was 47th on kenpom for defense. Shot blocking is overrated imo
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Post by thedragon on Mar 27, 2024 13:29:09 GMT -5
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Mar 27, 2024 13:35:26 GMT -5
Right back at you, Judah.
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Post by seaweed on Mar 27, 2024 13:38:03 GMT -5
Right back at you, Judah. If you put a gun to my head and said I had to take a ‘cuse guard, Mintz would be option 2 (at best) behind Copeland
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Post by OmaHoya on Mar 27, 2024 13:55:02 GMT -5
So now do we ask why it took two weeks for him to post this, and infer that it has something to do with a change in the strategy to replace an assistant coach?
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Post by saxagael on Mar 27, 2024 14:09:20 GMT -5
So now do we ask why it took two weeks for him to post this, and infer that it has something to do with a change in the strategy to replace an assistant coach? Why would he, or anybody, reply to a rumor that didn't start with them? A pretty sad state that he felt he needed to post that.
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Post by adm1hoya on Mar 27, 2024 14:22:46 GMT -5
Hmmm, maybe thats why hes been described as a coaches nightmare. Someone needs to take his phone, this response alone tells me to stay clear of this kid.
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