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Post by BeantownHoya on Jun 14, 2024 10:04:46 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this statement is "late"... probably not in the end getting this kid but we had a huge hole and everyone and their mother knew this kid was out there...I am not fathom how we could have sat back on this and not at least kicked the tires immediately when he withdrew from the draft...
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Post by SDHoya on Jun 14, 2024 10:16:14 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this statement is "late"... probably not in the end getting this kid but we had a huge hole and everyone and their mother knew this kid was out there...I am not fathom how we could have sat back on this and not at least kicked the tires immediately when he withdrew from the draft... We are upset that Cooley wasn’t all in on the guy who explicitly stated he wouldn’t play in the Big East?
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jun 14, 2024 10:18:33 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this statement is "late"... probably not in the end getting this kid but we had a huge hole and everyone and their mother knew this kid was out there...I am not fathom how we could have sat back on this and not at least kicked the tires immediately when he withdrew from the draft... We are upset that Cooley wasn’t all in on the guy who explicitly stated he wouldn’t play in the Big East? Ok which way do you want to play it then... it's either he was late to the party (what I'm saying)...or he's a moron for even trying because Hawkins stated he didn't want to play in the Big East already (what your saying) You choose...
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Post by conshyhoya on Jun 14, 2024 10:27:36 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this statement is "late"... probably not in the end getting this kid but we had a huge hole and everyone and their mother knew this kid was out there...I am not fathom how we could have sat back on this and not at least kicked the tires immediately when he withdrew from the draft... What would even be considered late considering the kid withdrew his name from the NBA draft at the last second. So he was only looking for 16 days? Didn't we also just get some new found NIL very recently that may have prompted our inquiry. Everyone and their mother also knew he would command a high price that maybe we didn't have. Getting bothered by something that you don't even know the true circumstances seems silly. Coleman himself said he didn't want to go to a college without a major football program so as you said we probably had no chance.
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 14, 2024 10:29:29 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this statement is "late"... probably not in the end getting this kid but we had a huge hole and everyone and their mother knew this kid was out there...I am not fathom how we could have sat back on this and not at least kicked the tires immediately when he withdrew from the draft... Hawkins stated that he wouldn't play for a BE team due to not being able to enjoy a football game so Cooley not reaching out is not a big deal IMHO...
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jun 14, 2024 10:30:39 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this statement is "late"... probably not in the end getting this kid but we had a huge hole and everyone and their mother knew this kid was out there...I am not fathom how we could have sat back on this and not at least kicked the tires immediately when he withdrew from the draft... Hawkins stated that he wouldn't play for a BE team due to not being able to enjoy a football game so Cooley not reaching out is not a big deal IMHO... Goodman says we reached out...
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Post by conshyhoya on Jun 14, 2024 10:51:20 GMT -5
Hawkins stated that he wouldn't play for a BE team due to not being able to enjoy a football game so Cooley not reaching out is not a big deal IMHO... Goodman says we reached out... If a kid states he doesn't want to go to a specific conference but you reach out anyway wouldn't you want to go in with your best offer? As I already suggested maybe he waited to make a serious offer once he secured more NIL. Seems like a logical play to me.
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Jun 14, 2024 10:52:26 GMT -5
Sometimes you play the lottery
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Post by 401to202hoya on Jun 14, 2024 11:17:54 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this statement is "late"... probably not in the end getting this kid but we had a huge hole and everyone and their mother knew this kid was out there...I am not fathom how we could have sat back on this and not at least kicked the tires immediately when he withdrew from the draft... What would even be considered late considering the kid withdrew his name from the NBA draft at the last second. So he was only looking for 16 days? Didn't we also just get some new found NIL very recently that may have prompted our inquiry. Everyone and their mother also knew he would command a high price that maybe we didn't have. Getting bothered by something that you don't even know the true circumstances seems silly. Coleman himself said he didn't want to go to a college without a major football program so as you said we probably had no chance. So if we just got an infusion of NIL money, could we reach back out to a few of the committed targets to sweeten the offer or do we spread the wealth among the current roster to keep them from jumping ship? Crazy times we are in.
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Post by conshyhoya on Jun 14, 2024 11:24:59 GMT -5
What would even be considered late considering the kid withdrew his name from the NBA draft at the last second. So he was only looking for 16 days? Didn't we also just get some new found NIL very recently that may have prompted our inquiry. Everyone and their mother also knew he would command a high price that maybe we didn't have. Getting bothered by something that you don't even know the true circumstances seems silly. Coleman himself said he didn't want to go to a college without a major football program so as you said we probably had no chance. So if we just go an infusion of NIL money, could we reach back out to a few of the committed targets to sweeten the offer or do we spread the wealth among the current roster to keep them from jumping ship? Crazy times we are in. I would think most are already enrolled in their new schools by now so I would say keep it for retaining players from this year after this year. If someone becomes available sooner or is still out there right now I would consider that too. That is how I would try to use it.
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 14, 2024 11:28:50 GMT -5
Hawkins stated that he wouldn't play for a BE team due to not being able to enjoy a football game so Cooley not reaching out is not a big deal IMHO... Goodman says we reached out... Cooley reaching out early is what I should have posted, my point is Hawkins wasn't coming to Gtown regardless of when the staff contacted him.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jun 14, 2024 17:12:25 GMT -5
Probably one of the best PF's left that I could even identify as being a reasonable addition...wacky 3 point shot...
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Post by conshyhoya on Jun 14, 2024 22:48:08 GMT -5
Probably one of the best PF's left that I could even identify as being a reasonable addition...wacky 3 point shot... Max Allen from Marist maybe but he has multiple years left so not sure we are looking for more than a year. Looked like he could pass and is a big body. Started his career at San Jose State.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jun 15, 2024 5:17:55 GMT -5
Probably one of the best PF's left that I could even identify as being a reasonable addition...wacky 3 point shot... Max Allen from Marist maybe but he has multiple years left so not sure we are looking for more than a year. Looked like he could pass and is a big body. Started his career at San Jose State. Marist big man Max Allen II is still available in the transfer portal after earning a spot on the All-MAAC Second Team this past season. The 6-foot-9, 250-pound center averaged a team-best 11.4 points per game while adding 3.8 rebounds and 1.9 assists to his stat line. His 51.8 shooting percentage from the floor ranked ninth-highest in the conference. Allen began his college career at San Jose State in 2022-23, but played in just eight games before suffering a season-ending injury. 247sports.com/longformarticle/college-basketball-transfer-portals-10-best-available-prospects-after-coleman-hawkins-picks-kansas-state-232840963/He's listed as one of the 10 best remaining transfers out there...to be clear he is ranked by 247 as their #335 transfer portal overall, so that's the talent level left for big men....
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Post by HamptonHoya on Jun 15, 2024 9:00:40 GMT -5
Goodman says we reached out... Cooley reaching out early is what I should have posted, my point is Hawkins wasn't coming to Gtown regardless of when the staff contacted him. He may have been using us to drive the NIL cost up. Like so many others.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 15, 2024 9:13:30 GMT -5
Cooley reaching out early is what I should have posted, my point is Hawkins wasn't coming to Gtown regardless of when the staff contacted him. He may have been using us to drive the NIL cost up. Like so many others. Maybe it wasn’t the smartest thing to tell the whole world we have a top 5 NIL budget? We coming’…rich as s**t. Going to win big, interviewed by Ian Eagle, etc., etc. Cooley seems to have a setting/managing expectations problem…maybe he could get away with this kind of stuff at Providence where nobody paid attention.
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jun 15, 2024 9:54:26 GMT -5
A lot of the budget was used, how much do you think Mack cost? How much to keep Epps? Make sure Sorber stays comitted? The NIL wasn’t for just transfer, how much needs to be saved to make sure you can have a shot at Acaiden? We’ve had like 2 big East wins in 2 years, we should be praising Cooley, I think we are at least a bubble team, and reassures on Cooley. Let’s support the players we have,
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 15, 2024 10:25:27 GMT -5
A lot of the budget was used, how much do you think Mack cost? How much to keep Epps? Make sure Sorber stays comitted? The NIL wasn’t for just transfer, how much needs to be saved to make sure you can have a shot at Acaiden? We’ve had like 2 big East wins in 2 years, we should be praising Cooley, I think we are at least a bubble team, and reassures on Cooley. Let’s support the players we have, I’m not buying the “budget was depleted” excuse because we know teams had to have at least 750k to get in the final group for CO.
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jun 15, 2024 10:29:26 GMT -5
A lot of the budget was used, how much do you think Mack cost? How much to keep Epps? Make sure Sorber stays comitted? The NIL wasn’t for just transfer, how much needs to be saved to make sure you can have a shot at Acaiden? We’ve had like 2 big East wins in 2 years, we should be praising Cooley, I think we are at least a bubble team, and reassures on Cooley. Let’s support the players we have, I’m not buying the “budget was depleted” excuse because we know teams had to have at least 750k to get in the final group for him. I really have no idea about budget but it’s not always about this player or this year, a lot of moving parts now in college sports
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Post by bluechi on Jun 15, 2024 11:21:41 GMT -5
He may have been using us to drive the NIL cost up. Like so many others. Maybe it wasn’t the smartest thing to tell the whole world we have a top 5 NIL budget? We coming’…rich as s**t. Going to win big, interviewed by Ian Eagle, etc., etc. Cooley seems to have a setting/managing expectations problem…maybe he could get away with this kind of stuff at Providence where nobody paid attention. lotta maybes here = conjecture Cooley is one big from being an attaboy
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