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Post by BeantownHoya on May 15, 2024 8:52:40 GMT -5
I assume that is not us...? Must be Georgetown College...right?
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 15, 2024 9:21:13 GMT -5
I assume that is not us...? Must be Georgetown College...right? Gotta be the Kentucky one.
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Post by TC on May 15, 2024 10:16:15 GMT -5
Alabama has Cliff, Aiden Sherrell and Nelson Louisville has Pryor/Scott/Khalifa and is rumored in on Waterman Oklahoma has Godwin/Wague/Keita Mississippi State has Nwoko/Chol/Machot - Ugo probably would start over any of the three, but you'd have to toss one of the three and I'm unsure they have a ton of basketball NIL
The one school eliminated here from Zagoria's list published yesterday was Georgetown (https://www.zagsblog.com/2024/05/14/kentuckys-ugonna-onyenso-focused-on-pro-day-but-half-a-dozen-college-teams-remain-in-mix/).
Possibilities : - Ugo eliminated Georgetown himself out of the bidding when three of the schools involved have no real need for a C and it is questionable whether they are players for a C and the only real school in this update is UNC. UNC is not dumb - they can do the math I just did above. I view this as unlikely because if Georgetown needs a C and they have a big budget, why would you eliminate pricing pressure on UNC? - Georgetown as of last night has a C and Georgetown took itself out of the bidding - the events of last night mean that Ed is basically punting on an extra C (and 2024-2025)
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 15, 2024 10:26:31 GMT -5
Alabama has Cliff, Aiden Sherrell and Nelson Louisville has Pryor/Scott/Keita and is rumored in on Waterman Oklahoma has Godwin/Wague/Keita The one school eliminated here from Zagoria's list was Georgetown. Possibilities : - Ugo eliminated Georgetown himself out of the bidding when three of the schools involved have no real need for a C and it is questionable whether they are players for a C and the only real school in this update is UNC. UNC is not dumb - they can do the math I just did above. I view this as unlikely because if Georgetown needs a C and they have a big budget, why would you eliminate pricing pressure on UNC? - Georgetown as of last night has a C and Georgetown took itself out of the bidding - the events of last night mean that Ed is basically punting on an extra C (and 2024-2025) It better not be the last option...there is no way we can go into next season with essentially 3 guys that are best fitted to play the 4 and 5...one of those guys being a freshman...one of those guys played 7 minutes a game last year... and one of those guys being a sophomore that may still to some degree be learning on the job... ....and to be clear I am super high on Sorber, Fielder and Burks but to have zero contingency plan or at the very least be prepared for a possibly injury would be coaching malpractice...if they whiff on Dain and Ugonna they still have to get someone
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Post by EtomicB on May 15, 2024 10:37:30 GMT -5
Alabama has Cliff, Aiden Sherrell and Nelson Louisville has Pryor/Scott/Keita and is rumored in on Waterman Oklahoma has Godwin/Wague/Keita The one school eliminated here from Zagoria's list was Georgetown. Possibilities : - Ugo eliminated Georgetown himself out of the bidding when three of the schools involved have no real need for a C and it is questionable whether they are players for a C and the only real school in this update is UNC. UNC is not dumb - they can do the math I just did above. I view this as unlikely because if Georgetown needs a C and they have a big budget, why would you eliminate pricing pressure on UNC? - Georgetown as of last night has a C and Georgetown took itself out of the bidding - the events of last night mean that Ed is basically punting on an extra C (and 2024-2025) It better not be the last option...there is no way we can go into next season with essentially 3 guys that are best fitted to play the 4 and 5...one of those guys being a freshman...one of those guys played 7 minutes a game last year... and one of those guys being a sophomore that may still to some degree be learning on the job... ....and to be clear I am super high on Sorber, Fielder and Burks but to have zero contingency plan or at the very least be prepared for a possibly injury would be coaching malpractice...if they whiff on Dain and Ugonna they still have to get someone What about the lack of guards on the roster? Mack & Epps primarily, they can use Peavy but he's gonna get a lot of wing minutes.
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Post by hoyariv71 on May 15, 2024 10:40:13 GMT -5
I have always thought Sorber is our starting center, so I think the struggle is finding a center who is willing to take a backup role at the money we are going to offer. I still believe we will get a good backup, we might even overpay if they have only a year of eligibility.
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Post by SDHoya on May 15, 2024 10:49:38 GMT -5
Seems to me one of two things happened. Either the Twitter burners and supposed insiders really had no idea, but basically amplified their own speculation on Twitter and the Trilly discord until they forgot that they themselves were the source of the "rumors" (e.g., Hilltop's tweet yesterday "Been the word on the street for a little while now. We'll see."). Or there really was something going on with Dainja but instead of dumping Memphis, he used Georgetown's interest to extract more $$$ and/or playing time guarantees from Memphis.
Either way, not ideal. I'll believe we are close to bringing in a center when Tipton posts a photo of said 5 in a Hoyas jersey.
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 15, 2024 10:53:34 GMT -5
It better not be the last option...there is no way we can go into next season with essentially 3 guys that are best fitted to play the 4 and 5...one of those guys being a freshman...one of those guys played 7 minutes a game last year... and one of those guys being a sophomore that may still to some degree be learning on the job... ....and to be clear I am super high on Sorber, Fielder and Burks but to have zero contingency plan or at the very least be prepared for a possibly injury would be coaching malpractice...if they whiff on Dain and Ugonna they still have to get someone What about the lack of guards on the roster? Mack & Epps primarily, they can use Peavy but he's gonna get a lot of wing minutes. Well I would assume out of the 80 minutes available Mack and Epps in some fashion will take up 60 of those minutes and then Mulready and Curtis Williams fill in the other 20. I don't disagree I would like to see a true backup PG versus Epps being the backup to Mack, maybe that backup is Mulready...but I would imagine it being a pretty hard sell at this point to get another guard in here knowing at best maybe you are seeing 10 minutes a game...
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 15, 2024 11:05:29 GMT -5
Alabama has Cliff, Aiden Sherrell and Nelson Louisville has Pryor/Scott/Keita and is rumored in on Waterman Oklahoma has Godwin/Wague/Keita The one school eliminated here from Zagoria's list was Georgetown. Possibilities : - Ugo eliminated Georgetown himself out of the bidding when three of the schools involved have no real need for a C and it is questionable whether they are players for a C and the only real school in this update is UNC. UNC is not dumb - they can do the math I just did above. I view this as unlikely because if Georgetown needs a C and they have a big budget, why would you eliminate pricing pressure on UNC? - Georgetown as of last night has a C and Georgetown took itself out of the bidding - the events of last night mean that Ed is basically punting on an extra C (and 2024-2025) It better not be the last option...there is no way we can go into next season with essentially 3 guys that are best fitted to play the 4 and 5...one of those guys being a freshman...one of those guys played 7 minutes a game last year... and one of those guys being a sophomore that may still to some degree be learning on the job... ....and to be clear I am super high on Sorber, Fielder and Burks but to have zero contingency plan or at the very least be prepared for a possibly injury would be coaching malpractice...if they whiff on Dain and Ugonna they still have to get someone I forget who posted it, but someone was in an alumni/donor session with Cooley last week where Cooley acknowledged the need for a center. In light of that, I think the last option (punting on a center) is extremely unlikely. Of course, punting on a center, and being unable to secure a center would yield the same outcome (no center).
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Post by EtomicB on May 15, 2024 11:23:45 GMT -5
What about the lack of guards on the roster? Mack & Epps primarily, they can use Peavy but he's gonna get a lot of wing minutes. Well I would assume out of the 80 minutes available Mack and Epps in some fashion will take up 60 of those minutes and then Mulready and Curtis Williams fill in the other 20. I don't disagree I would like to see a true backup PG versus Epps being the backup to Mack, maybe that backup is Mulready...but I would imagine it being a pretty hard sell at this point to get another guard in here knowing at best maybe you are seeing 10 minutes a game... My bad I forgot to mention Mulready, not all that confident he'll be ready to be a contributor this season, especially on the ball-handling duties.
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Post by madgesiq92 on May 15, 2024 11:40:19 GMT -5
Well I would assume out of the 80 minutes available Mack and Epps in some fashion will take up 60 of those minutes and then Mulready and Curtis Williams fill in the other 20. I don't disagree I would like to see a true backup PG versus Epps being the backup to Mack, maybe that backup is Mulready...but I would imagine it being a pretty hard sell at this point to get another guard in here knowing at best maybe you are seeing 10 minutes a game... My bad I forgot to mention Mulready, not all that confident he'll be ready to be a contributor this season, especially on the ball-handling duties. Mulready #57 24/7 much higher ranked than Akinjo — he is going to play— stop thinking that these are Pats 3 star recruits.
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Post by hoyaboya on May 15, 2024 11:44:56 GMT -5
My bad I forgot to mention Mulready, not all that confident he'll be ready to be a contributor this season, especially on the ball-handling duties. Mulready #57 24/7 much higher ranked than Akinjo — he is going to play— stop thinking that these are Pats 3 star recruits. Akinjo was #71, it's not like he was that far off, plus Mulready is ranked below 100 by some other services besides 247. n.rivals.com/content/athletes/james-akinjo-32693?view=pvThat being said, I do think Mulready will contribute this year, particularly with his defense, size and toughness. Those are all attributes that our starting guards are not noted for and I think Mulready will give us 10-15 minutes/game this season, easy.
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 15, 2024 11:48:50 GMT -5
Seems to me one of two things happened. Either the Twitter burners and supposed insiders really had no idea, but basically amplified their own speculation on Twitter and the Trilly discord until they forgot that they themselves were the source of the "rumors" (e.g., Hilltop's tweet yesterday "Been the word on the street for a little while now. We'll see."). Or there really was something going on with Dainja but instead of dumping Memphis, he used Georgetown's interest to extract more $$$ and/or playing time guarantees from Memphis. Either way, not ideal. I'll believe we are close to bringing in a center when Tipton posts a photo of said 5 in a Hoyas jersey. I generally find that people with inside info rarely think about how much their insider can truly know, or tend to put the proper caveats in. For example, every player is going to listen to counteroffer, and every player might be playing one team against another. A coaching staff can be confident but misread the situation, or someone near the staff can simply be hopeful and the person relaying it misreads the real level of underlying confidence. The only thing that seems clear to me is that the market for big men is very expensive right now.
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Post by EtomicB on May 15, 2024 12:09:31 GMT -5
Mulready #57 24/7 much higher ranked than Akinjo — he is going to play— stop thinking that these are Pats 3 star recruits. Akinjo was #71, it's not like he was that far off, plus Mulready is ranked below 100 by some other services besides 247. n.rivals.com/content/athletes/james-akinjo-32693?view=pvThat being said, I do think Mulready will contribute this year, particularly with his defense, size and toughness. Those are all attributes that our starting guards are not noted for and I think Mulready will give us 10-15 minutes/game this season, easy. This is true, my offense driven bias jumped up again.
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Post by GaithersburgHoya on May 15, 2024 13:01:43 GMT -5
We need guys for depth. This roster without an additional 4/5 man is very, very thin in the frontcourt.
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on May 15, 2024 13:11:23 GMT -5
Appears we are out on Dainja given Memphis upped his offer. If so, it’s extremely concerning that we can’t put together a top bid for position of extreme need on this roster. Ed can’t punt on this year and hope to carry momentum into year 3. We need a center and we need that center to be top half caliber in the BE.
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Post by hoyazeke on May 15, 2024 13:13:13 GMT -5
Mulready #57 24/7 much higher ranked than Akinjo — he is going to play— stop thinking that these are Pats 3 star recruits. Akinjo was #71, it's not like he was that far off, plus Mulready is ranked below 100 by some other services besides 247. n.rivals.com/content/athletes/james-akinjo-32693?view=pvThat being said, I do think Mulready will contribute this year, particularly with his defense, size and toughness. Those are all attributes that our starting guards are not noted for and I think Mulready will give us 10-15 minutes/game this season, easy. Akinjo was also a true PG. I don't believe Mulready is a PG. More of a CG.
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Post by madgesiq92 on May 15, 2024 15:51:05 GMT -5
He understudied Kofi Cockburn, but then took a slight step backwards from sophomore to junior seasons. Saw his minutes cut in half. Epps loves this kid and coach thinks he could make him into double double machine. More to come. Who’s next? He’s running around the country telling every alum at every fundraiser that we need a five and we’re getting a five. Cannot bring Cook back And expect to be better defensively on the interior. Worst defender in the big east per Evan Miya. I’ve been pretty optimistic and like Cooley a lot , but addressing this need should’ve been the first priority in the portal not the last.
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Post by hoyaboya on May 15, 2024 16:12:35 GMT -5
Epps loves this kid and coach thinks he could make him into double double machine. More to come. Who’s next? He’s running around the country telling every alum at every fundraiser that we need a five and we’re getting a five. Cannot bring Cook back And expect to be better defensively on the interior. Worst defender in the big east per Evan Miya. I’ve been pretty optimistic and like Cooley a lot , but addressing this need should’ve been the first priority in the portal not the last. Cooley should talk less and act more.
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Post by nbhoya on May 15, 2024 16:33:17 GMT -5
This whole deal is getting frustrating across the board
1. Underperforming in transfer portal; 2. Imprudently advertising our “NIL bag” while unsuccessfully leveraging resources; 3. Missing on previously promised marquee scheduling
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