traversb
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Post by traversb on Apr 29, 2024 16:40:48 GMT -5
You obviously take Stewart if he wants to come as he surely upgrades the talent. if we get Stewart and a Rim protecting/no offense big and things get weird. Stewart can probably play with Fielder as a 4/5 that actually switch which role they have on each end. Stewart next to Sorber or the rim protector and things get congested and the lack of shooting gets even worse. Adding Stewart and another big that will expect minutes, especially an underclass one, and the minutes for Sorber and Fielder shrink up fast. I think if Stewart is the next to come they are hoping he can give enough rim protection and the last big is more of a back up big body guy for when you need that.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 29, 2024 17:07:25 GMT -5
That’s interesting. Who has the GU record? Mac? Pryor? Bowen? Pat Jr?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 29, 2024 17:24:48 GMT -5
That’s interesting. Who has the GU record? Mac? Pryor? Bowen? Pat Jr? Mike Frazier!! 😁😁
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Apr 29, 2024 18:07:01 GMT -5
Demetrius Hunter? Or Mac, I’d imagine.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 29, 2024 19:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by jackofjoy on Apr 29, 2024 20:03:11 GMT -5
My opinion is that the offers he's getting aren't far off dollars wise so now it comes down to other factors in his final decision. He wouldn't be making visits if the money situation wasn't clear imho. Agree to disagree, I guess. Right after he visited Georgetown, the Hoyas started recruiting the Tennessee kid and the Kentucky kid. Right after he visited Alabama, the Crimson Tide started getting crystal balls for the Kentucky kid. To me, it looks like Cliff goes and visits a campus, makes a large NIL demand, doesn't commit, and the program he just visited tries to pivot as quickly as possible. Assuming no (or minimal) NBA career, it’s the closest thing to free agency for these kids. Why not take the visits, booster private plane trips get wined and dined, free Jordans, free gear etc. And maybe someone hits your number.
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Post by jackofjoy on Apr 29, 2024 20:04:31 GMT -5
The Hurleys are always playing chess (when not riding motorcycles)
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 29, 2024 20:13:24 GMT -5
This news may make Cliff O more important to UNC, as the Tar Heels were said to be in the running for Aidoo. Hubert Davis just lost some NIL leverage going into Cliff O's Wednesday visit to Chapel Hill.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Apr 29, 2024 21:05:42 GMT -5
The pickings are getting thin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wolveribe
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Post by wolveribe on Apr 29, 2024 21:21:14 GMT -5
Stewart is a 4. He can also play smallball 5. As I stated, he can step out and guard perimeter players (as he did all season long on switches). That is part of the reason he has so much value both last year as a recruit and also this year in the portal. I also posted scouting reports to support that viewpoint: Sean Stewart did what Sean Stewart does. He played with a hot motor, and he played with explosion, strength, and athleticism. Stewart is a good rebounder, in and out of his area. He is also a good defender, guarding the block and moving his feet in switches out to the wing. The jump shot showed improvement, but is still a work in progress. You wonder how his free throws will look. He at his best, offensively, playing five feet and in. The most deceptive part of Stewart’s game is his mobility and consequent defensive versatility, but it often comes in correlation to the freshness of his legs (and he was clearing running on fumes at the Peach Jam). But, with USA Basketball, he showed he could slide his feet and defend guards on the perimeter, even in open space.Stewart’s added value is most apparent on the other side of the court. As a senior playing for Montverde Academy alongside five-star recruit Cooper Flagg, he demonstrated his ability to dominate the boards defensively and is capable of guarding almost every position. Coupled with elite shot blocking, Stewart will look to be one of the best defensive freshmen in the country.Fr. C Sean Stewart is an explosive and strong post player. His athleticism is what is so intriguing about him. Stewart’s dad (Michael Stewart) played in the NBA. At his peak, Stewart is a switchable post player and an excellent rebounder. He will also need to show some offensive pieces to his game, extending past eighth feet and processing. But there is intrigue there.
In these hypothetical PnR switches where Stewart switched to the 1 or 2, who does Mack guard? Who does Epps guard? Those switches could work well when your backcourt is Newton/Spencer/Castle. Not so much when your backcourt is Mack and Epps. We need a long, shot blocking center way more than another 4 man. This is reeking of desperation. I think everyone on here knows how a switch works. "another 4 man" How many do we currently have?
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 29, 2024 21:25:05 GMT -5
In these hypothetical PnR switches where Stewart switched to the 1 or 2, who does Mack guard? Who does Epps guard? Those switches could work well when your backcourt is Newton/Spencer/Castle. Not so much when your backcourt is Mack and Epps. We need a long, shot blocking center way more than another 4 man. This is reeking of desperation. I think everyone on here knows how a switch works. "another 4 man" How many do we currently have? We have two 4-men already, Fielder and Sorber. Stewart is a 4 also. What else would you call them?
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Post by wolveribe on Apr 29, 2024 21:27:37 GMT -5
Sorber is a center. Fielder is a 4 or a 5.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 29, 2024 22:58:18 GMT -5
Sorber is clearly a center!!! This addition would be welcomed.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Apr 30, 2024 6:19:21 GMT -5
Nobody has Mutombo part of the purported core. We all assumed he would be grad-transferring, as with Bristol, ever since he was honored on senior day.
To be clear, I was one of the “retain the core” guys and I don’t like the fact that we have multiple outbound transfers among the rotation players. But Mutombo and Bristol transferring is a horse of a different color. It was always expected; we were never expecting them to be rotation guys in 24-25.
I hope Ryan transfers down a level or two and gets big minutes and makes some good on-court memories at his next stop. By all accounts a good kid, a smart kid, and forever a Hoya.
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 30, 2024 8:37:33 GMT -5
]We have two 4-men already, Fielder and Sorber. Stewart is a 4 also. What else would you call them? All 4 of the major recruiting services (247, Rivals, ESPN and On3) list Sorber as a Center. 247, ESPN and On3 called Fielder a center out of high school, Rivals called him a PF. His GUHoyas profile calls him "Forward/Center" and his ESPN profile calls him a center. Calling him a F/C or 4/5 seems reasonable. Most coaches run a maximum of 9 man rotations. If you assume that's likely to be 3 guards/3 wings/3 bigs, then I'd say having your 3 big rotation be 1 PF (Stewart), 1 PF/C (Fielder) and 1 Center (Sorber) seems about right. It is not the 80s or 90s anymore, where centers have to be 7' or taller and guys who are 6'10 have to play PF. The game has gotten more athletic and more skilled and there's less of a premium on height. At the pro level, the best basketball team assembled in the last 20 years or so featured 6'7 Draymond Green at center. Sure, a prototype athletic 7 footer who swats shots into the 8th row, like Cliff or Onyenso, is nice, especially given how weak our defense was last year. But those types of players have their limitations also, for example not being able to do anything with the basketball on offense if they're more than arm's reach from the rim. And there are other types of players who can succeed at the 5 spot beyond just the traditional shotblocker/back to the basket type. Plus both Sorber and Stewart (from the 4 spot) can provide rim protection anyway. There's a lot to like about a Stewart/Fielder/Sorber front court if that's how this works out. In fact the only thing I DON'T like is their youth/inexperience.
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Post by wolveribe on Apr 30, 2024 8:49:56 GMT -5
Yes, who started the Sorber is a forward movement because it must have came from this board. We gonna take a back to the basket low post scorer and call him a power forward?
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 30, 2024 8:59:08 GMT -5
It is increasingly looking like Stewart, Fielder, Sorber, and maybe Cook.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 30, 2024 9:42:49 GMT -5
Nobody has Mutombo part of the purported core. We all assumed he would be grad-transferring, as with Bristol, ever since he was honored on senior day. To be clear, I was one of the “retain the core” guys and I don’t like the fact that we have multiple outbound transfers among the rotation players. But Mutombo and Bristol transferring is a horse of a different color. It was always expected; we were never expecting them to be rotation guys in 24-25. Exactly. What we saw during the season was that Mutombo was not part of Cooley’s rotation plans and, thus, couldn’t be considered a Cooley core player. Whether that was the right or wrong way to use Ryan is water under the bridge. What 2003 took offense to was the “Core down to 2 and losing upperclass experience” of my post after Ryan’s departure. He assumed that I had Ryan as a core player. What (I think) he didn’t realize was that I used the same line (with the same number) after Cook’s departure days before. So, I wasn’t considering Ryan as part of that core. Also, I did add to my post after Ryan’s departure "his upperclass experience on and off the court..."
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 30, 2024 11:25:17 GMT -5
Nobody has Mutombo part of the purported core. We all assumed he would be grad-transferring, as with Bristol, ever since he was honored on senior day. To be clear, I was one of the “retain the core” guys and I don’t like the fact that we have multiple outbound transfers among the rotation players. But Mutombo and Bristol transferring is a horse of a different color. It was always expected; we were never expecting them to be rotation guys in 24-25. Exactly. What we saw during the season was that Mutombo was not part of Cooley’s rotation plans and, thus, couldn’t be considered a Cooley core player. Whether that was the right or wrong way to use Ryan is water under the bridge. What 2003 took offense to was the “Core down to 2 and losing upperclass experience” of my post after Ryan’s departure. He assumed that I had Ryan as a core player. What (I think) he didn’t realize was that I used the same line (with the same number) after Cook’s departure days before. So, I wasn’t considering Ryan as part of that core. Also, I did add to my post after Ryan’s departure "his upperclass experience on and off the court..." First, I don't take offense to anything you have written prhoya. As you know, we have gotten along well in the past, even if we disagree about some things now. Second, you are changing your position after the fact. You said, "Another one bites the dust! Core down to 2 and losing upperclass experience on and off the court… A legacy "portaling" hurts!" While you are now trying to include Mutombo in some sort of "core" by using off court contributions, that's not how anybody--including you---was using "core" to describe our players going forward into next year earlier this year. And others describing our "core" weren't including Mutombo either. Nobody that I can recall on HoyaTalk had any thought that Mutombo would play a significant on court role next year. And he was recognized on senior night, leading everybody to think he was likely done at Georgetown. That is why I am saying it's a red herring. This is really not a big deal, at all, in my mind and totally expected. Nor do I think his transfer hurts very much in reality considering nobody (including Ryan) thought he would be a big contributor next year. As I said, does it hurt optically? Yes, a bit. But it doesn't hurt with our performance going forward. Would it have been nice to have a 4th year senior? Yes. Would it have been nice to have an older guy to help some of the younger guys get acclimated? Yes. But other guys on the roster can help to fill that role.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 30, 2024 11:29:27 GMT -5
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