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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 16:51:47 GMT -5
Why? Shaka is overrated and has a less impressive resume than III. If we are going to fire someone, the replacement better be better than the original. Red Holzman, Red Auerbach and John Wooden aren't walking through the front door of the Thompson Center any time soon. I'd settle for anyone better than III, which does not include Shaka Smart.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Mar 23, 2017 16:51:58 GMT -5
Other seats on the Crean bandwagon are available but they are going fast. One less seat available. Count me in.
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 16:52:08 GMT -5
Here's a name I haven't seen or heard yet that could be available for a move: Chris Collins, at Northwestern. Was an assistant coach for three years under Amaker at Seton Hall, then for thirteen years at Duke before leaving for the NU job. His name has been raised as a potential replacement for John Groce at Illinois. Certainly knows how to build a program and compete at a university well known for its academics.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 16:53:37 GMT -5
Who is the Nebraska coach? Perhaps we should consider him -- he knows how to recruit Georgetown players. In all seriousness, Archie Manning, Smart, Hurley -- all good choices. How about Few? Throw $3.5 million on the table and see his reaction. I just want somebody that has a lot of fire -- both in terms of passion for the job and on the recruiting trail -- and has a big enough personality that they won't be subservient to the Thompson legacy and can go about building a new culture around the program. You don't want a new culture around the program. The culture around the program is far bigger than the Thompsons. The culture around the program is arguably its biggest asset.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 16:55:48 GMT -5
Other seats on the Crean bandwagon are available but they are going fast. One less seat available. Count me in. I know people have an instinctual dislike of Crean, but he really checks a lot of boxes: - Success at a Catholic School - Success at a major program (Indiana) - Good recruiter I am not saying he'd be first on my list (he's not), but we could easily do way worse.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 23, 2017 16:56:48 GMT -5
Here's a name I haven't seen or heard yet that could be available for a move: Chris Collins, at Northwestern. Was an assistant coach for three years under Amaker at Seton Hall, then for thirteen years at Duke before leaving for the NU job. His name has been raised as a potential replacement for John Groce at Illinois. Certainly knows how to build a program and compete at a university well known for its academics. I was thinking Collins will be on the list. Hurley, Miller, Crean, Smart, Amaker, Ewing, maybe Brey. Not sure they'll be many sleepers here. Brace yourselves for when Dawkins gets a call and even though he won't get it, the board erupts in anger.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 16:56:59 GMT -5
No surprise here:
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Post by Just Cos on Mar 23, 2017 17:01:25 GMT -5
Texas is not putting up with back to back to losing seasons. If Shaka Smart is a Smart man, he should be willing to take a pay cut. He can stay at Texas and make more money and live as a year to year coach or take a pay cut and know he has a secure future at a school he can win at. I think this is exactly right and also explains why Texas is a "bad job." It's a program controlled by really rich, really out of touch people who think they know how to run a big sports enterprise because they made millions of dollars in the oil industry. Those folks pay millions on a coach but then remain really involved in the direction of the program and are far too quick to cut bait on a coach. Shaka would want to come here. He's a great fit for us, and we are a great fit for him. Whether the dollars work I don't know, I just hope they can. So the business school at Texas is named McCombs for Red McCombs. Former owner of Vikings and Spurs. Not from oil money but he is very vocal about Texas football and coaching decisions.
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Post by tullamore2 on Mar 23, 2017 17:03:00 GMT -5
Georgetown job opening should garner a lot of interest.
New facilities History Name recognition Big East DMV recruits East coast big city FS1 tv deal
Coaches will be lining up for the chance to resurrect this program.
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Post by guru on Mar 23, 2017 17:04:12 GMT -5
Who is the Nebraska coach? Perhaps we should consider him -- he knows how to recruit Georgetown players. In all seriousness, Archie Manning, Smart, Hurley -- all good choices. How about Few? Throw $3.5 million on the table and see his reaction. I just want somebody that has a lot of fire -- both in terms of passion for the job and on the recruiting trail -- and has a big enough personality that they won't be subservient to the Thompson legacy and can go about building a new culture around the program. You don't want a new culture around the program. The culture around the program is far bigger than the Thompsons. The culture around the program is arguably its biggest asset. Beyond the Thompsons, what is the culture of our program? I honestly have no idea.
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Post by Churchwell on Mar 23, 2017 17:04:46 GMT -5
Joe Dooley from FGCU. Went to WG, spent years as an assistant at KU. Could be an interesting fit...
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 23, 2017 17:06:30 GMT -5
Is Chris Collins too much to hope for? He would be perfect (and stay 'til K. leaves Duke).
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 23, 2017 17:09:20 GMT -5
One less seat available. Count me in. I know people have an instinctual dislike of Crean, but he really checks a lot of boxes: - Success at a Catholic School - Success at a major program (Indiana) - Good recruiter I am not saying he'd be first on my list (he's not), but we could easily do way worse. Piling on some more-- he's "only" 50 and may actually want to stay awhile after his last experience. We really don't need someone looking to move on up after a couple of years. Crean's already been " up." Plus he's s good at the enthusiasm thing.
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 17:09:57 GMT -5
Is Chris Collins too much to hope for? He would be perfect (and stay 'til K. leaves Duke). Coach K isn't leaving Duke unless someone puts a stake through his cold, cold heart.
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Post by b52legend on Mar 23, 2017 17:10:08 GMT -5
Who is the Nebraska coach? Perhaps we should consider him -- he knows how to recruit Georgetown players. In all seriousness, Archie Manning, Smart, Hurley -- all good choices. How about Few? Throw $3.5 million on the table and see his reaction. I just want somebody that has a lot of fire -- both in terms of passion for the job and on the recruiting trail -- and has a big enough personality that they won't be subservient to the Thompson legacy and can go about building a new culture around the program. You don't want a new culture around the program. The culture around the program is far bigger than the Thompsons. The culture around the program is arguably its biggest asset. Obviously we don't want to erase our history -- we want to build on it. I was speaking more about the culture of the team. Given the number of transfers and reports of unhappy players, I think we do need a shift in culture around the team.
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Post by McBricks on Mar 23, 2017 17:10:13 GMT -5
You don't want a new culture around the program. The culture around the program is far bigger than the Thompsons. The culture around the program is arguably its biggest asset. Beyond the Thompsons, what is the culture of our program? I honestly have no idea. Current culture? I'll take a crack. Good kids who like to play basketball but are uninspired, lack discipline, aren't particularly good at defense, offense or rebounding. Not much fire in their bellies. They don't seem to like lifting weights or extra practicing (or maybe they do like these things but aren't particularly good at getting results). Some graduate. Many leave before graduation. So yeah, I have no idea either.
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Post by deacon on Mar 23, 2017 17:11:15 GMT -5
It is time for a clean break. Shaka Smart is my first, second and third choice. If we cannot lure him away then Gregg Marshall, Tom Crean, Richard Pitino or Archie Miller. Hard pass on Amaker. This is completely where I am, except I'm a hard pass on Marshall, and I would also add in other coaches in our league now. But Shaka for Georgetown, that I'm all in for. I would run laps naked around the Reflecting Pool if I got an alert that we hired Gregg Marshall. If it was even remotely possible, you do WHATEVER it takes to make that hire.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 17:11:21 GMT -5
You don't want a new culture around the program. The culture around the program is far bigger than the Thompsons. The culture around the program is arguably its biggest asset. Obviously we don't want to erase our history -- we want to build on it. I was speaking more about the culture of the team. Given the number of transfers and reports of unhappy players, I think we do need a shift in culture around the team. Well yes, that clearly needs to change.
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 17:11:25 GMT -5
You don't want a new culture around the program. The culture around the program is far bigger than the Thompsons. The culture around the program is arguably its biggest asset. Beyond the Thompsons, what is the culture of our program? I honestly have no idea. Kente. Lots of kente.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 17:15:58 GMT -5
Beyond the Thompsons, what is the culture of our program? I honestly have no idea. Current culture? I'll take a crack. Good kids who like to play basketball but are uninspired, lack discipline, aren't particularly good at defense, offense or rebounding. Not much fire in their bellies. They don't seem to like lifting weights or extra practicing (or maybe they do like these things but aren't particularly good at getting results). Some graduate. Many leave before graduation. So yeah, I have no idea either. That's not the culture of the program. When outsiders look at a Georgetown hat they don't think of that. They think of the aggressive 80s, they think of Iverson, they think of a program that had the first african american National Championship coach, they think of family, they think of defense, they think of the Big East( and yes unfortunately they think of our tournament woes). The problems of the TEAM isn't the culture of a 110 year old basketball program.
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