Jagan Mosely

[MCIGuy]

Jun 10, 2018 20:16:30 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

Jun 10, 2018 20:02:43 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

I would not be surprised if Mosely was our top scoring guard. No reason why he wouldn’t continue his improvement.

That would be great but I would be very surprised. Blair outscored him last year not even mentioning Pickett who according to the team was also a guard.

This.

I mean...seriously? Someone thinking that Mosely will be our top scoring guard based upon a cherry-picked music-edited video of some of his highlights? I look forward to Mosely getting better and better his final two seasons. I mentioned before that a quality guard of size like he has coming off the bench is something the Hoyas haven't had in a long while. But I don't see him leading the guards in the points department. If he does we'll going to either be much better than even I as an optimist thinks we will be or we're going to be a lot worse than I figured.

[tashoya]

If Jagan can improve his handle and become a more willing threat from 3, he'll be incredibly valuable to his team. If other teams need to close out on him to guard against the 3, he'll be able to get into the lane more often to use his floater or make interior passes which he's already shown that he can do. There are plenty of minutes available for him if he tightens up a few things and is fully healthy. He didn't always seem to be 100% but I could be wrong about that.

[michaelgrahmstylie]

But wasn't Moeley playing injured most of the year?

[blueandgray]

I wasn’t considering Pickett a guard and given our roster, see him playing much more at the 3 then anything else. And I kinda forgot about Blair...so there’s that!!

I am just saying that I like Mosely a lot and that he is going to be more important on both sides of the ball than people are giving him credit for.

[hoyalove4ever]

I like Mosely a lot and expect him to have an important role during the next two years.

[calhoya]

I thought that last year was going to be his breakout year and missed on that prediction. Still hoping for that next step but he has a lot of work to do this summer, starting with developing a more consistent shot from the perimeter. Needs to learn to play more within himself and avoid the careless pass or the highlight pass attempt that often led to turnovers. Fact is that with the two freshmen plus Blair (no one should sleep on this kid), Pickett the transfer and possibly even LeBlanc, there will be a hell of lot more competition this year for minutes at the 1-3 positions where Mosley was used last year. Still he just appears to have a confidence or swagger that reminds me a lot of Jabril and if he puts in the time this kid could still be a major factor for the Hoyas.

[x-centercourt400s]

I like Mosley too. He's got size, heart, decent talent and seemingly a good attitude. If he could shoot, especially from 3pt range, he would be a great asset. I'm not saying just make 3 pt shots but actually TRY to make them. He averaged 1.2 3pt attempts per game last season which wasn't even enough for him to qualify for the rankings in NCAA.com's statistics (you need 2.5 MADE per game). His percentage was decent, 38.9%, which would have ranked him in the top 80 nationally if he had enough attempts. But he needs to at least get up to 4 or 5 attempts per game this season (keeping the same % of makes) to really be something other than a hole in the offense.

He had a huge opportunity last season to be a scoring threat but didn't/couldn't seize it for whatever reason. If he plays a similar game this year he'll probably get passed by the young talent. Let's hope the added competition will bring out the best in him.

[HOYAPLAYA]

IMO, Mosely is critical to the early development of our young guards in McClung/Akinjo this year. His size/strength combo is not one that we would have likely gone up against much in HS competition but will be something they will see in CBB and I can foresee other teams guards trying to challenge them physically. I'm sort of hoping this happens because I think that their mental makeup will make this a bad decision that opponents will pay for. With that being said, I'm one that thinks Mosely likely starts alongside Akinjo, Johnson, Pickett and Govan to start the season and that he is more likely to keep the starting role for the season with Kaleb coming off the bench in favor of either Mourning/Walker (if we find we don't have enough height/muscle in that lineup) or Blair/McClung (if we are going to go small and try to run teams out of the gym). Has anyone seen any recent pictures or updates for either Mourning or Walker as I'd love to see that they have put on additional pounds of muscle. Walker seems like the kind of kid that likes the weight room and I thought i remembered Mourning had hit the weight room pretty well before the 2016-2017 season.

[HometownHoya]

Jun 11, 2018 11:22:25 GMT -5 HOYAPLAYA said:

IMO, Mosely is critical to the early development of our young guards in McClung/Akinjo this year. His size/strength combo is not one that we would have likely gone up against much in HS competition but will be something they will see in CBB and I can foresee other teams guards trying to challenge them physically. I'm sort of hoping this happens because I think that their mental makeup will make this a bad decision that opponents will pay for. With that being said, I'm one that thinks Mosely likely starts alongside Akinjo, Johnson, Pickett and Govan to start the season and that he is more likely to keep the starting role for the season with Kaleb coming off the bench in favor of either Mourning/Walker (if we find we don't have enough height/muscle in that lineup) or Blair/McClung (if we are going to go small and try to run teams out of the gym). Has anyone seen any recent pictures or updates for either Mourning or Walker as I'd love to see that they have put on additional pounds of muscle. Walker seems like the kind of kid that likes the weight room and I thought i remembered Mourning had hit the weight room pretty well before the 2016-2017 season.

I agree with your first statement. Additionally Moseley does have the mojo to not allow the Freshman run all over him. He is going to make them fight for his minutes.

[Bigs"R"Us]

Mosely needs to prove he can hit open looks before he can start. We can’t continue to have limited options on offense. I hope he and Johnson up their games.

[95hoya]

I don't see Jagan as being wired to score or the skill set. He's a complimentary glue guy. Does he have a plus skill?

He's got an important role, but I think you kinda know what he is at this point.

[HOYAPLAYA]

Jun 11, 2018 12:16:04 GMT -5 95hoya said:

I don't see Jagan as being wired to score or the skill set. He's a complimentary glue guy. Does he have a plus skill?

He's got an important role, but I think you kinda know what he is at this point.

I think he's got the right balance for what the team needs given the replacement of Mulmore and Dickerson with Akinjo and McClung. If you thought Blair and Pickett were confident at putting up shots as a freshman, just imagine what they are going to be going into year 2. Akinjo and McClung don't seem like the type that are going to be afraid to hoist up any open 3's (and some when they aren't open). I think Jagan is going to find himself with a lot more open threes as the guards kick it out off of penetration or Govan off of double teams. I'm hoping he at least doubles his attempts because I think he'll end up playing around 25 minutes a game this year which is only slightly up from last year.

[GIGAFAN99]

He needs to be a college equivalent of 3-and-D. If he focuses on those two things, he'll be vital to the team's success.

[ewingitrust]

Jun 11, 2018 16:58:06 GMT -5 GIGAFAN99 said:

He needs to be a college equivalent of 3-and-D. If he focuses on those two things, he'll be vital to the team's success.

i think he's the most critical piece coming back knowing Govan is returning...I'm confident he's improved his shooting/ ball handling because his natural athleticism is off the charts. He seems to not mind doing the dirty work/hustle plays.

[Bigs"R"Us]

Not a good facilitator, dribbler or shooter. He is likable, but that doesn’t get you a starting job.

[bornhoya]

I think he is what he is a 6 and 2 player and that’s not a bad thing

[HOYAPLAYA]

Jun 11, 2018 18:08:11 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Not a good facilitator, dribbler or shooter. He is likable, but that doesn’t get you a starting job.

I'll take his shooting percentage with 3-4 more shots a game (at least two more 3's a game). Who has the odds on the over/under on how fast this fanbase turns on the freshman guards once they realize they are in fact freshman and have their growing pains?

[prhoya]

www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065792/jagan-mosely

Looking at his two-year numbers, here's the good, the average and the bad:

Good:
-Improved (some slightly) every stat category, except FTAs and TOs.
-Great improvement re: 3P% (from 24% to 39%).
-Great improvement re: FG%.
-PTS are moving in the right direction (although he could have had a bigger scoring role with last year's roster).
-Although not reflected in ESPN's stats, the kid is a hell of a charge-taker.

Average:
-RB stayed at 2 to 3 pg
-AST stayed at 2 to 3 pg
-0.2 in blocks (I'll leave it here because he's a guard)

Bad:
-Slight improvement in mpg (from 20 to 23), but with last year's guard play, 30-32 mpg were there for the taking, but his play did not merit more minutes.
-It's amazing to see that he shot the same amount of 3s in both years. With Peak and Pryor gone, there were plenty of opportunities to fill that gap from the perimeter, esp. with Kaleb, Mulmore and Trey D. gun-shy. Jagan didn't take advantage.
-Although he shot the same amount of FTs, his % fell from 77% to 68%. He needs to practice as Blair, Mac and Akinjo are good to terrific FT shooters.
-TOs! Like calhoya wrote, too many careless, soft passing or trying for the highlight pass. He was given the keys and he dropped them.

In sum, I think it's safe to say that we all want the kid to succeed. He needs to shoot more when open, play good defense and take care of the ball, and he will succeed. Practice hard this summer and listen to your coaches, kid, and everything will work out.

[Hoyas4Ever]

Jun 11, 2018 20:04:02 GMT -5 prhoya said:

www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065792/jagan-mosely

Looking at his two-year numbers, here's the good, the average and the bad:

Good:
-Improved (some slightly) every stat category, except FTAs and TOs.
-Great improvement re: 3P% (from 24% to 39%).
-Great improvement re: FG%.
-PTS are moving in the right direction (although he could have had a bigger scoring role with last year's roster).
-Although not reflected in ESPN's stats, the kid is a hell of a charge-taker.

Average:
-RB stayed at 2 to 3 pg
-AST stayed at 2 to 3 pg
-0.2 in blocks (I'll leave it here because he's a guard)

Bad:
-Slight improvement in mpg (from 20 to 23), but with last year's guard play, 30-32 mpg were there for the taking, but his play did not merit more minutes.
-It's amazing to see that he shot the same amount of 3s in both years. With Peak and Pryor gone, there were plenty of opportunities to fill that gap from the perimeter, esp. with Kaleb, Mulmore and Trey D. gun-shy. Jagan didn't take advantage.
-Although he shot the same amount of FTs, his % fell from 77% to 68%. He needs to practice as Blair, Mac and Akinjo are good to terrific FT shooters.
-TOs! Like calhoya wrote, too many careless, soft passing or trying for the highlight pass. He was given the keys and he dropped them.

In sum, I think it's save to say that we all want the kid to succeed. He needs to shoot more when open, play good defense and take care of the ball, and he will succeed. Practice hard this summer and listen to your coaches, kid, and everything will work out.

Better to not include Mac and Akinjo in any evaluations/expectations until they step on the court in November...

[prhoya]

Jun 11, 2018 20:38:51 GMT -5 Hoyas4Ever said:

Better to not include Mac and Akinjo in any evaluations/expectations until they step on the court in November...

I get that, but they were both good FT shooters before getting to GU. We’ll see.