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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 9, 2017 22:46:56 GMT -5
Pryor rebounded well, too.
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Post by guru on Jan 9, 2017 22:59:17 GMT -5
We need to savor nights like this. Few and far between. The team certainly looked a lot better. Let's hope it's the start of a turnaround. Good job guys!
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Post by JohnnyJones on Jan 9, 2017 23:46:09 GMT -5
Honestly, I thought that was much more about how bad St John's was than anything about us. Particularly early, we did a lot of dumb things like foul three-point shooters twice and the T on Rodney. We gave up a fair number of open shots that they just missed. And although we really tried to take advantage of our size early, Brad just couldnt do it. But I am in no way complaining. A few random thoughts: What the heck was that zone we trotted out in the first half? Maybe it was, like Brando said, a true amoeba matchup. And what the heck was St John's doing on offense against it? I don't think I have ever seen three possessions that looked quite like those. We gave up the one three and then I don't think we went back to it. I don't honestly know if that is a good thing or a bad thing! Marcus is really playing well. And it's on both ends now. He will never be accused of being light on his feet. But the effort and attention is there. If we turn the season around, I suspect he is a crucial reason. For all of Jesse's offensive skill, he just looks so befuddled out there too often. He is so slow to his move in the post. And just seems to make up his mind before he even catches the ball about what he will do, regardless of the D. As others mentioned, both PGs played well today, and we even had them in together for a time. Pops was really into it. As the announcers said, you just got the sense that a loss in this one would have been personally devastating. Speaking of which, III was extremely animated too. Visibly berating people when they didn't get back on D which enough or failed to rebound. Agree on Marcus. He has played really well of late. Playing very strong and aggressive on offense, fighting hard for position down low and just becoming a force - especially when he is matched up with a smaller defender. Also playing much better defense. He had a few possessions in a row on the defensive end tonight where he was the difference maker creating steals and stops. Shooting lights out as well, which is so nice. It seems that leg injury really held him back the first 3rd of the year. Too bad - we could have used this Marcus from day 1.
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Post by grandmahoya on Jan 10, 2017 0:14:00 GMT -5
Great rebounding, points in the paint and mostly a tremendous effort! I think we found our point guard, but I wish this win was earlier in the season. No giving up though, many more games to be played. Go Hoyas!
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 10, 2017 5:37:40 GMT -5
this is what can happen when you commit to defending and rebounding. this was not a particularly impressive offensive performance. The Hoyas didn't shoot the lights out. They didn't make a ton of 3's. They still turned it over 15 times but they were aggressive and went to the line. You don't get many 30 pt wins shooting 43%. I thought both mosely and mulmore were terrific on both ends. They both defended really well and hit the boards. Mulmore had some really nice passes in the half court sets. Confidence seems to be building with both of them and that can only be a positive thing. Just one game but I like the effort on both ends. The hard part is keeping this intensity and defensive mindset for more than 1 game.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 10, 2017 6:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by richfame on Jan 10, 2017 6:51:05 GMT -5
Watching this game, especially in the first half it was like watching a bad team vs an awful team.
Not a great attendance, but now we expect this right?
B team announcers, but now we expect this right?
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the win and proud of the guys but let's see what happens the rest of the way.
I feel like there's no juice in this program.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 10, 2017 8:18:54 GMT -5
Always happy with a win but hard to gauge the true progress when playing a Jekyll and Hyde team like St. Johns. Even if viewed as a scrimmage there were some nice developments and some continued problems. MD continues to develop into the player we had hoped to see and his play on the boards and defense was very good. Pryor still off but was focused more on not forcing play and on making the additional pass. His rebounding reminds me of DRC and Trawick. Govan's confidence in his play around the basket is growing and he seemed more focused throughout the game. Mosley is looking the part of the PG and playing under control as the conference play develops (needs to add an inch to his vertical to complete his highlight reel dunks). Mulmore also impressive, though I have no idea where he developed his outside shot. Reminds me of the little kid who has to bring the ball down to his waist to generate the power to reach the basket from distance. Hayes (can dunk!) and Kaleb making FTs!
More work needs to be done in ball-handling for almost all of the guards. Maybe it's their height but they all dribble high (other than Mulmore) and opponents often just flick the ball away. Kaleb still looks lost to me with the ball in his hands. Reggie and Trey still are lost-- at the end of the bench. Reggie got some minutes in the first half when fouls took their toll. He is the one player who knows how to flash into the middle of the zone and either take the shot or distribute--the role envisioned for Paul White. Trey looked smooth and confident in his one shot from about 8 feet out. Now back to the bench boys.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Jan 10, 2017 8:27:18 GMT -5
Watching this game, especially in the first half it was like watching a bad team vs an awful team. Not a great attendance, but now we expect this right? B team announcers, but now we expect this right? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the win and proud of the guys but let's see what happens the rest of the way. I feel like there's no juice in this program. No program will have juice at 9-8. We need to pile up 4 to 5 wins in a row before the juice starts to flow.
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Post by practice on Jan 10, 2017 8:48:01 GMT -5
It was fun to go to a blow out against a Big East team, albeit St. John's. I still don't understand how Trey Mourning can't get any minutes on this team. I'm sorry but Hayes, Govan and Agau are not so much better than Mourning. It's outrageous. Perhaps Trey came to Georgetown for SFS which would explain why he's still here. Against Butler, with his parents sitting courtside, JT3 didn't put him in until the OT! In 16 minutes of play this year, Mourning is shooting 50% from the field, 100% from the line, has 3 rbds, 8 pts, 1 blk and 4 fouls. It's a joke. Mourning would start for St. John's and a lot of other teams we've played. He's got good size and, unlike most of our big men, appears to be in great shape. He's offensive skills are evident. There are plenty of reasons to be unhappy with this season and with JT3, but let's not forget Mourning. Give the guy a chance! He's becoming a cautionary tale.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 10, 2017 9:12:57 GMT -5
Way to figure it out Hoyas and come up with a big win last night Hoya Saxa!
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jan 10, 2017 9:39:00 GMT -5
Very happy for the team. Encouraged most by guard play.
Was pretty funny watch JTJr. all riled up when they put him on camera - acting like a baseline coach at times. Made it a point to get Hayes' attention before giving him a "thumbs up" when he exited the game at one point.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 10, 2017 11:39:32 GMT -5
St. John's has zero size. This game doesn't change anything. We've got to people a talented but bad UConn team (kind of like us) and then handle Provy who is equally bad. If we win those two and somehow beat Xavier (with Myles Davis), I'll start to get excited.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Jan 10, 2017 11:48:20 GMT -5
Wish I had taped that game. I was there, but missed Jr's bursts of enthusiasm.
Last night was encouraging. I think this win might have given this team needs the shot of confidence it needs. Hoyas not only won, but they also displayed a bit of edge in doing so. I agree with everyone that St. John's looked terrible and gave up. But some credit must go to the defense, particularly in first half and beginning of the second. They managed to contain Shamorie Ponds who has looked like the BE freshman of the year.
Remember the Elon win? The Hoyas looked shakier during that win, but it was the jumping off point to a more confident team that won its remaining OOC games. Let's hope that has the same effect. They will need it against much tougher opponents -- Creighton and Xavier -- at the end of the month.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Jan 10, 2017 11:51:47 GMT -5
I was able to catch the first half before going to championship festivities. Really pleased with the win. Yes, it was a bad team, but we needed a win in the worst way against anyone. Now, the schedule gets a tad easier going forward, and we did the right thing tonight. Glad to see Jagan have another solid night.
Already looking forward to returning to Verizon for the Connecticut game Saturday. I'll have woken up from the Alabama loss by then--it should be illegal to start football games at basically 8:30 eastern time.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Jan 10, 2017 11:55:07 GMT -5
oops sorry I had double posted and can't figure out how to delete post completely.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 10, 2017 12:39:36 GMT -5
I'll have woken up from the Alabama loss by then--it should be illegal to start football games at basically 8:30 eastern time. And it should be illegal to have the championship college game on cable.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 10, 2017 13:02:40 GMT -5
I'll have woken up from the Alabama loss by then--it should be illegal to start football games at basically 8:30 eastern time. And it should be illegal to have the championship college game on cable. IMO, the game should be played before the NFL playoffs start, or at worst after the first weekend.
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Post by seaweed on Jan 10, 2017 13:20:22 GMT -5
And it should be illegal to have the championship college game on cable. IMO, the game should be played before the NFL playoffs start, or at worst after the first weekend. Isn't the later what just happened?
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 10, 2017 13:27:02 GMT -5
IMO, the game should be played before the NFL playoffs start, or at worst after the first weekend. Isn't the later what just happened? You're right. Was thinking this was the 2nd weekend. Still think it needs to happen before NFL playoffs take over.
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