Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jan 9, 2017 20:51:48 GMT -5
Very happy for those young men. Will be nice to go home happy after a game.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 9, 2017 20:52:48 GMT -5
That turnaround by Mourning is gonna give people more cause to call for PT. Or ask why he hasn't been red-shirted.. Maybe he doesn't want to be redshirted.  |
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eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 9, 2017 20:57:10 GMT -5
Nice win tonight and very fun second half to watch. Does St. John's have a board? Would be fun to read that after their performance.
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Highsmith
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Post by Highsmith on Jan 9, 2017 21:09:32 GMT -5
Happy for the team and staff....this had to be a tough losing streak. It certainly was for us. This needs to be more than a blip on the radar though....winnable games coming up for the next 2 before a VERY tough 3 game stretch. Can they go at least 3-2 over this next 5 game stretch?
Back to tonight's game.....St John's was really bad. We started taking it to them more and more as they fell apart, which was good, but it would have taken a herculean effort to lose this one. As I said, I am very happy for the team.....just hope they can build off of it.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 9, 2017 21:10:50 GMT -5
And so we back away from the ledge for an evening. . .
Plus/minus for tonight's game, as calculated from the Gametracker play-by-play at guhoyas.com:
Mosely +23, Agau +19, Peak +18, Pryor +18, Govan +17, Hayes +15, Mulmore +12, Johnson +9, Derrickson +7, Cameron +6, Mourning even, Hines -2, Muresan -2, Campbell DNP/ill.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Jan 9, 2017 21:20:06 GMT -5
Final Thoughts:
The Hoyas got off the snide a got a much needed win
Peak 16pts, Pryor, 13pts, Mosley 13pts lead the way
Defensively the Hoyas held St. Johns to a season 27.6 FG% on 16/58 FG's
Gtown won the rebound edge 48 to 34
After 5 mins into the 2nd the half the game was never in doubt as the Hoyas reminded the Redstorm that they are St. Johns
St. Johns hit 39 pts with 17:10 left in the 2nd half and then proceeded to go scorless until the 9:17 mark in the half, almost an 8 min scoring drought
Once St. Johns went on the scoring drought they just gave up and started chucking 3's on the offensive end and not playing defense on the defensive end
The Hoyas got their largest margin of victory to date (28pts) and a win to build off
If I am a St. Johns fan then I would definitely have issues with the effort I saw tonight in the 2nd half
Final Grade: A
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 9, 2017 21:25:23 GMT -5
Eagle 5-4 where are you?
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 9, 2017 21:28:21 GMT -5
Huzzah.
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eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 9, 2017 21:29:45 GMT -5
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 9, 2017 21:31:35 GMT -5
The St. John's board makes our site seem absolutely ebullient. |
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eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 9, 2017 21:33:20 GMT -5
The St. John's board makes our site seem absolutely ebullient. Nice word and it is a fun read other than there shots at us. |
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Post by drquigley on Jan 9, 2017 21:42:33 GMT -5
Anyone noticing what a difference having a real pg makes for this (or any) team? As Jagan has stepped up the last two games our whole team looks better, especially on defense. And BTW, for all of those (including me sometimes) who question JT3's coaching ability, I think you saw tonight what a truly bad coach looks like. St. John's is 2-3 really talented guys running around like fools. No discipline and absolutely no heart when they started to fall behind. Half the time in the second half they looked like they had no idea how to play this game. Talk about guys who can't take a punch. Mullins will be gone by the end of the year.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 9, 2017 21:46:52 GMT -5
The St. John's board makes our site seem absolutely ebullient. Nice word and it is a fun read other than there shots at us. Candidly, many of those shots are well deserved. At least, for a game, it's not us. |
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 9, 2017 21:48:58 GMT -5
Joe E. Ross and Fred Gwynne would be proud! |
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 9, 2017 22:06:38 GMT -5
Derrickson is up to 44.4% from 3 on the year, 52% in BEast play.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 9, 2017 22:14:16 GMT -5
Overall, I think this was a really nice win. After losing 4 in a row, a blowout victory is about all you can hope for. There were some nice things from a lot of guys tonight, even though no one single player was overly dominant - yet we won by a large margin. I will take that any day. A few observations:
- For all the whining about effort on our part, tonight you really saw what it was like for a team to give up: St. John's in the last ten minutes. The guys were clearly going through the motions and our guys didn't let down.
- Mosely had another pretty good game. Plus, it was one of Mulmore's better games, too. Overall, not bad. It's really hard to see Campbell getting any playing time, even after his mysterious illness is resolved.
- I know some people may complain we didn't empty the bench early enough, but you need to give the main rotation guys a chance to gel and to play together - guys who rarely play together, like Kaleb, Jagan Mosely, and Mulmore all together, for example. I didn't have a problem with it.
- Why crickets on here? It's a Monday, St. John's doesn't engender excitement, we were 0-4 coming into the game, and probably most importantly, the folks constantly complaining and beating the drum for change have no new ammunition.
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eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 9, 2017 22:19:24 GMT -5
Overall, I think this was a really nice win. After losing 4 in a row, a blowout victory is about all you can hope for. There were some nice things from a lot of guys tonight, even though no one single player was overly dominant - yet we won by a large margin. I will take that any day. A few observations: - For all the whining about effort on our part, tonight you really saw what it was like for a team to give up: St. John's in the last ten minutes. The guys were clearly going through the motions and our guys didn't let down. - Mosely had another pretty good game. Plus, it was one of Mulmore's better games, too. Overall, not bad. It's really hard to see Campbell getting any playing time, even after his mysterious illness is resolved. - I know some people may complain we didn't empty the bench early enough, but you need to give the main rotation guys a chance to gel and to play together - guys who rarely play together, like Kaleb, Jagan Mosely, and Mulmore all together, for example. I didn't have a problem with it. - Why crickets on here? It's a Monday, St. John's doesn't engender excitement, we were 0-4 coming into the game, and probably most importantly, the folks constantly complaining and beating the drum for change have no new ammunition. I think there's a decent CFB game on tonight that most have switched to. |
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 9, 2017 22:26:38 GMT -5
Wow. A 30 point win and... crickets on this board. That's not a good sign. Phone died at the bar and just got home, Does sure seem quiet here tonight. The Bama game is no excuse. There was plenty of our game to watch before it started and it was clear early on that the Crimson Tide were just going to run all day and control the clock. Glad to see Jagan start to get his swagger. I've always thought he could be our best guard and carries himself like a leader already. If he can have more games like this, the season isn't over yet. Great job by JT3 to work through the early foul trouble to Peak and Pryor. We saw Cameron get extended minutes and stay composed. JT3 doesn't use the end of his lineup often but when he does, he expects them to be ready. Today, Reggie answered the call. I really wish we hadn't started 0-4. I think this team has a lot of potential and is getting better but they may have dug themselves too deep of a hole. |
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Post by aleutianhoya on Jan 9, 2017 22:37:43 GMT -5
Honestly, I thought that was much more about how bad St John's was than anything about us. Particularly early, we did a lot of dumb things like foul three-point shooters twice and the T on Rodney. We gave up a fair number of open shots that they just missed. And although we really tried to take advantage of our size early, Brad just couldnt do it.
But I am in no way complaining.
A few random thoughts:
What the heck was that zone we trotted out in the first half? Maybe it was, like Brando said, a true amoeba matchup. And what the heck was St John's doing on offense against it? I don't think I have ever seen three possessions that looked quite like those. We gave up the one three and then I don't think we went back to it. I don't honestly know if that is a good thing or a bad thing!
Marcus is really playing well. And it's on both ends now. He will never be accused of being light on his feet. But the effort and attention is there. If we turn the season around, I suspect he is a crucial reason.
For all of Jesse's offensive skill, he just looks so befuddled out there too often. He is so slow to his move in the post. And just seems to make up his mind before he even catches the ball about what he will do, regardless of the D.
As others mentioned, both PGs played well today, and we even had them in together for a time.
Pops was really into it. As the announcers said, you just got the sense that a loss in this one would have been personally devastating.
Speaking of which, III was extremely animated too. Visibly berating people when they didn't get back on D which enough or failed to rebound.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 9, 2017 22:40:32 GMT -5
Nice to see everyone contribute. Moseley and Mulmore both played well, showed some confidence. Would be a big help to be able to get consistent contributions from the 1 spot.
KJ looked much better from the line, smoother form and some arc on his shots. Would be a plus for him, earn him more late-game minutes. B. also 2-2, these guys have been working.
Defensive effort pretty solid, although obviously the scattershot play of the johnnies helped. Also saw numerous times when we had multiple guys hitting g the boards.
Rodney still struggling with his shot, but nice to see him contribute in other ways - a couple of assists, and some good effort on defense.
Nice to get a win. Let's start a streak.
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