hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 7, 2016 17:00:42 GMT -5
Lester is going to finish no worse than second in this year's National League Cy Young Award voting, and could well win it. I would be more than willing to respect Maddon's decision on this one.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 7, 2016 22:54:14 GMT -5
I think I'll be right about Lester in the end, all your excellent dissent notwithstanding (and thanks for jumping on my intentional discussion-starting add-on to the obvious Theo choice). The HOF seems very slow in adjusting "hallmark" numbers that are pretty much guarantees for entry. 300 wins used to be the number but Smoltz got in with not many more than 200. But he also picked up some solid save numbers. I'm not sure what the number is now but Lester, with some luck and no further health issues, may get to 230. That said, his numbers will likely regress (though not as badly as they would have if he stayed in the AL) as he's going to be 33 when next season starts. A lot will depend on how good the teams are for whom he's pitching. The Cubbies look to be set for a number of years so that's certainly working in his favor.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 8, 2016 1:27:46 GMT -5
I think I'll be right about Lester in the end, all your excellent dissent notwithstanding (and thanks for jumping on my intentional discussion-starting add-on to the obvious Theo choice). The HOF seems very slow in adjusting "hallmark" numbers that are pretty much guarantees for entry. 300 wins used to be the number but Smoltz got in with not many more than 200. But he also picked up some solid save numbers. I'm not sure what the number is now but Lester, with some luck and no further health issues, may get to 230. That said, his numbers will likely regress (though not as badly as they would have if he stayed in the AL) as he's going to be 33 when next season starts. A lot will depend on how good the teams are for whom he's pitching. The Cubbies look to be set for a number of years so that's certainly working in his favor. The only player in big league history with at least 200 career wins and at least 150 saves. As part of the Braves' run of 14 consecutive division titles from 1991 to 2005, he would appear in 41 postseason games, compiling a 15-4 record, a 2.67 ERA and a record 199 strikeouts. Lester is no Smoltz. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 8, 2016 19:55:06 GMT -5
The HOF seems very slow in adjusting "hallmark" numbers that are pretty much guarantees for entry. 300 wins used to be the number but Smoltz got in with not many more than 200. But he also picked up some solid save numbers. I'm not sure what the number is now but Lester, with some luck and no further health issues, may get to 230. That said, his numbers will likely regress (though not as badly as they would have if he stayed in the AL) as he's going to be 33 when next season starts. A lot will depend on how good the teams are for whom he's pitching. The Cubbies look to be set for a number of years so that's certainly working in his favor. The only player in big league history with at least 200 career wins and at least 150 saves. As part of the Braves' run of 14 consecutive division titles from 1991 to 2005, he would appear in 41 postseason games, compiling a 15-4 record, a 2.67 ERA and a record 199 strikeouts. Lester is no Smoltz. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yeah, agree with this. Smoltz was a lock. I'm a big fan of Lester, but there's no comparison. If Mike Mussina isn't getting in, neither is Lester unless he starts putting up huge numbers.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Nov 17, 2016 20:07:12 GMT -5
Lester is going to finish no worse than second in this year's National League Cy Young Award voting, and could well win it. I would be more than willing to respect Maddon's decision on this one. Good call. Plus Kris Bryant (from Las Vegas) went from rookie of the year to MVP in one year.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 17, 2016 21:40:40 GMT -5
Lester is going to finish no worse than second in this year's National League Cy Young Award voting, and could well win it. I would be more than willing to respect Maddon's decision on this one. Good call. Plus Kris Bryant (from Las Vegas) went from rookie of the year to MVP in one year. I read that he went from college player of the year to minor league player of the year to rookie of the year to MVP over four consecutive seasons. Major stud.
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