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Post by BeantownHoya on May 16, 2017 10:41:36 GMT -5
Are we missing info on the Creighton situation? No one who isn't associated with this site is even mentioning the BE conference pitfall. Did GTown give Tremont free right to go to any school or is that a NCAA rule that is above GTown? Just wondering because Tremont and independent writers are not even referring to the potential roadblock.... I could have sworn i read somewhere if he chooses Creighton he would have to sit out a year. Is that accurate?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 16, 2017 10:43:32 GMT -5
So is Kansas just another wish list team for Tremont?
Look at the bright side - if he were to end up a Hoya, he should want to show Duke and Kansas what they missed out on.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 16, 2017 10:45:10 GMT -5
Are we missing info on the Creighton situation? No one who isn't associated with this site is even mentioning the BE conference pitfall. Did GTown give Tremont free right to go to any school or is that a NCAA rule that is above GTown? Just wondering because Tremont and independent writers are not even referring to the potential roadblock.... I could have sworn i read somewhere if he chooses Creighton he would have to sit out a year. Is that accurate? I believe Big East rules do not allow him to play for any other Big East school. At all. Although can (and would) Georgetown waive that restriction as the original LOI school? And does the change in head coach after he signed in any way affect the rule? No idea.
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Post by njhoya78 on May 16, 2017 10:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 10:55:54 GMT -5
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Post by beenaround on May 16, 2017 11:06:12 GMT -5
Is there an illness called Tremont Waters fatigue? My head hurts every time I read about him here...yet I keep clicking on it.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 16, 2017 11:17:06 GMT -5
Is there an illness called Tremont Waters fatigue? My head hurts every time I read about him here...yet I keep clicking on it. It is just one symptom of PTSD - Post Thompson Stress Disorder.
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Post by SSHoya on May 16, 2017 11:18:38 GMT -5
Is there an illness called Tremont Waters fatigue? My head hurts every time I read about him here...yet I keep clicking on it. It is just one symptom of PTSD - Post Thompson Stress Disorder. Or PKSD -- Pre Kenner Stress Disorder. Once Kenner starts, all of us will have something else to opine about.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 16, 2017 11:19:12 GMT -5
I do not see why we would waive it, I just did not know if, for example, Creighton could petition the conference for a waiver, and if the original school (GU in this case) could consent.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 11:19:23 GMT -5
It's been around for quite some time but Duke and others have been scared away by the pops.. Highly unlikely they were coming back into the picture no matter the circumstance...
Top 40 kids at a priority position like PG don't get this type of light interest if available this late in the game. It's highly unusual imo...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 16, 2017 11:21:05 GMT -5
Duke and others have been scared away by the pops.. Highly unlikely they were coming back into the picture... Could Patrick's status allow him to keep dad under control?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 11:34:42 GMT -5
Duke and others have been scared away by the pops.. Highly unlikely they were coming back into the picture... Could Patrick's status allow him to keep dad under control? Hard to say for sure but other coaches with status are passing My concern is he's never been in this position and he already has 1,000,678,098 things on his plate. Sure he's dealt with Diva athletes in the Pro's but those guys can be traded if too problematic. They also can't decide to up and transfer leaving you scrambling.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 16, 2017 11:55:28 GMT -5
Could Patrick's status allow him to keep dad under control? Hard to say for sure but other coaches with status are passing My concern is he's never been in this position and he already has 1,000,678,098 things on his plate. Sure he's dealt with Diva athletes in the Pro's but those guys can be traded if too problematic. They also can't decide to up and transfer leaving you scrambling. Certainly a dilemma - but hopefully if we get him in, the Hoya family past and present can impress upon Waters father and son the proper mindset to be part of that family.
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Post by guru on May 16, 2017 11:57:54 GMT -5
Could Patrick's status allow him to keep dad under control? Hard to say for sure but other coaches with status are passing My concern is he's never been in this position and he already has 1,000,678,098 things on his plate. Sure he's dealt with Diva athletes in the Pro's but those guys can be traded if too problematic. They also can't decide to up and transfer leaving you scrambling. Am I the only one who just wants to walk away from this kid? We are going into a rebuilding phase whether he comes or not. This is not a quick fix situation, and this kid and his commitment issues are a vestige of the old, failing program. Plus he just sends off really bad vibes at this point. I wish him luck wherever he goes - nothing against him. But I think a truly fresh start may work out best for everyone involved.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 12:03:53 GMT -5
Hard to say for sure but other coaches with status are passing My concern is he's never been in this position and he already has 1,000,678,098 things on his plate. Sure he's dealt with Diva athletes in the Pro's but those guys can be traded if too problematic. They also can't decide to up and transfer leaving you scrambling. Am I the only one who just wants to walk away from this kid? We are going into a rebuilding phase whether he comes or not. This is not a quick fix situation, and this kid and his commitment issues are a vestige of the old, failing program. Plus he just sends off really bad vibes at this point. I wish him luck wherever he goes - nothing against him. But I think a truly fresh start may work out best for everyone involved. I want a healthy program. I'm willing to wait a couple years to get it...
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 12:08:34 GMT -5
Hard to say for sure but other coaches with status are passing My concern is he's never been in this position and he already has 1,000,678,098 things on his plate. Sure he's dealt with Diva athletes in the Pro's but those guys can be traded if too problematic. They also can't decide to up and transfer leaving you scrambling. Certainly a dilemma - but hopefully if we get him in, the Hoya family past and present can impress upon Waters father and son the proper mindset to be part of that family. Could also be overblown and idk his fam so it's 100% rumor to be fair. Kid is clearly very talented...
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Post by trillesthoya on May 16, 2017 13:26:32 GMT -5
My only question is what on earth could have changed in a few months with his family? The narratives around this kid and his family have seemingly done a 180. They went from being a good, principled family worried about their sons education and not just basketball to Lavar Ball and co. seemingly overnight. I highly doubt anything has changed significantly since we recruited him the first time. He might be looking to see if any of the bigger dogs come sniffing, but who could blame him? As much as we might have disliked JT3's coaching, I have the utmost respect for him as an individual and believe that he would not recruit a potential crackpot.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 16, 2017 13:42:12 GMT -5
Is there an illness called Tremont Waters fatigue? My head hurts every time I read about him here...yet I keep clicking on it. Yes, it is referred to as Latavious Williams syndrome.
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Post by BigmanU on May 16, 2017 13:57:12 GMT -5
Hard to say for sure but other coaches with status are passing My concern is he's never been in this position and he already has 1,000,678,098 things on his plate. Sure he's dealt with Diva athletes in the Pro's but those guys can be traded if too problematic. They also can't decide to up and transfer leaving you scrambling. Am I the only one who just wants to walk away from this kid? We are going into a rebuilding phase whether he comes or not. This is not a quick fix situation, and this kid and his commitment issues are a vestige of the old, failing program. Plus he just sends off really bad vibes at this point. I wish him luck wherever he goes - nothing against him. But I think a truly fresh start may work out best for everyone involved. Every strong foundation still needs bricks. He would be a major brick to start the process of building.
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Post by calhoya on May 16, 2017 14:15:23 GMT -5
Best not to get too whipped into a frenzy about speculation about the family and the kid. He can play, he is academically oriented, and he wants to be the guy to lead the team. I do not know how to define the point when confidence becomes over-confidence and can be distracting, but it seems to me that the Hoyas are a situation tailor made for this kid to come in and shine, much like the young guards have at St. Johns. They have gained much more by standing out on a rebuilding team than they would by being part of the "cast of stars" on some more dominant programs. Moreover, with virtually every BE game nationally televised it seems a lock that there is more publicity coming at GU than at UConn. Hoping for the kid to come and will worry about family later.
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