eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Mar 11, 2017 20:43:18 GMT -5
Waters confirmed to ESPN that his son did, in fact, sign in November and that he had not yet received his official release.
"They told us that they wouldn't fight us on it," he said. And he couldn't even have confirmed that with FS1 to give the conference network a boost?
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TC
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Post by TC on Mar 11, 2017 20:43:21 GMT -5
Doubt it. JT3 didn't do this. JT3 successfully recruited him. The fans undid this.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 11, 2017 20:44:18 GMT -5
Per ESPN, were going to let him walk. I wonder if coach told him that he's going to step down.
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Post by eagle54 on Mar 11, 2017 20:44:32 GMT -5
Doubt it. JT3 didn't do this. JT3 successfully recruited him. The fans undid this. I blame PRHoya and TJI in particular.
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Post by hoyajinx on Mar 11, 2017 20:49:09 GMT -5
While we are busy making unsubstantiated claims about his decision, I'd like to posit that his dog got in his ear Son of Sam style and told him Georgetown wasn't the right fit.
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Post by AltoSaxa on Mar 11, 2017 20:50:57 GMT -5
TC = Tyler Crawford?
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 11, 2017 20:51:23 GMT -5
"This surprises me" said no one.
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Post by SDHoya on Mar 11, 2017 20:52:12 GMT -5
Doubt it. JT3 didn't do this. JT3 successfully recruited him. The fans undid this. Yeah, the fans caused the team to lose it's last 6 games en route to consecutive losing seasons.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 11, 2017 21:01:12 GMT -5
It is always darkest before the dawn...
Soccer season starts in August.
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Post by dreamhoya on Mar 11, 2017 21:19:51 GMT -5
Like someone said, players talk to each other. They also read message boards such as these. I can think of instances where over-criticism and sometimes flat out insults would drive any player away. You have a fanbase that suddenly vilified JTIII and a chat community that regularly criticizes players even after they commit.The sentiment was so negative on this board about JTIII, I would've been surprised if He stayed committed.
I will say that Tremont Waters is showing his true colors though.
On a side note, it appears things will be getting worse.
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Post by TC on Mar 11, 2017 21:22:13 GMT -5
Doubt it. JT3 didn't do this. JT3 successfully recruited him. The fans undid this. Yeah, the fans caused the team to lose it's last 6 games en route to consecutive losing seasons. He committed to the school after a losing season! Recruits commit to programs that have gone through losing seasons all the time - otherwise no program would ever rebuild. It's the perceived coaching instability that makes recruits uncommit. The fans did that.
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Post by eagle54 on Mar 11, 2017 21:26:11 GMT -5
Yeah, the fans caused the team to lose it's last 6 games en route to consecutive losing seasons. He committed to the school after a losing season! Recruits commit to programs that have gone through losing seasons all the time - otherwise no program would ever rebuild. It's the perceived coaching instability that makes recruits uncommit. The fans did that. I'd say the coach did that by putting together another terrible season. The fans are only reacting to the what they witness.
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Post by swhoya on Mar 11, 2017 21:28:08 GMT -5
I will say that Tremont Waters is showing his true colors though. On a side note, it appears things will be getting worse. Please. Blame III if you're inclined. There's plenty of reason for it. Blame classless fans and anonymous players who created a self-fulfilling prophecay and arguably made it worse than it had to be. But Waters is showing his true colors? Give the kid a break. Would you want to go to a college where you didn't feel comfortable anymore? Or that you perceive as jeopardizing your goals? The kid isn't your property. He gets to make decisions about his own future. Get over yourself.
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Post by SDHoya on Mar 11, 2017 21:28:19 GMT -5
Yeah, the fans caused the team to lose it's last 6 games en route to consecutive losing seasons. He committed to the school after a losing season! Recruits commit to programs that have gone through losing seasons all the time - otherwise no program would ever rebuild. It's the perceived coaching instability that makes recruits uncommit. The fans did that. Again--the fans did not cause two consecutive disasters of seasons. The fans did not make Thompson forget how to coach. The fans did not get the national media to start piling on. No--that all happened because at any high major program with a history of success, two consecutive losing seasons creates "coaching instability". Waters committed after JTIII promised a new and improved offense for Waters to walk into and show off his talent to the NBA scouts. Now that we have all seen what that new system looks like, is there any surprise that Waters was having second thoughts?
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Post by hoyajinx on Mar 11, 2017 21:30:24 GMT -5
Yeah, the fans caused the team to lose it's last 6 games en route to consecutive losing seasons. He committed to the school after a losing season! Recruits commit to programs that have gone through losing seasons all the time - otherwise no program would ever rebuild. It's the perceived coaching instability that makes recruits uncommit. The fans did that. Or he was told that last year was an anomaly and JTIII was trying to switch things up (which was widely reported at the beginning of the year). He saw a second straight season of an atrocious offensive scheme and decided he may have been sold a false bill of goods. The bottom line is you just don't know. Again, unless you have some particular insight into his reasoning, your claim is only your unfounded opinion. His released quote isn't "obvious" in any way.
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Post by dreamhoya on Mar 11, 2017 21:33:27 GMT -5
I will say that Tremont Waters is showing his true colors though. On a side note, it appears things will be getting worse. Please. Blame III if you're inclined. There's plenty of reason for it. Blame classless fans and anonymous players who created a self-fulfilling prophecay and arguably made it worse than it had to be. But Waters is showing his true colors? Give the kid a break. Would you want to go to a college where you didn't feel comfortable anymore? Or that you perceive as jeopardizing your goals? The kid isn't your property. He gets to make decisions about his own future. Get over yourself. You're waaay misconstruing my statement. It's his decision. I wasn't as high on his game as some but for him to handle it that way and to say "this is my life' is just.... interesting to me to say the least.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 11, 2017 21:35:30 GMT -5
Just stop. While I'd have loved it if Waters had come, the kid needs to think of himself. No, breaking a commitment isn't a good thing, but it is his life and I bear him no ill will for breaking his word.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 11, 2017 21:38:24 GMT -5
Yeah, the fans caused the team to lose it's last 6 games en route to consecutive losing seasons. He committed to the school after a losing season! Recruits commit to programs that have gone through losing seasons all the time - otherwise no program would ever rebuild. It's the perceived coaching instability that makes recruits uncommit. The fans did that. Tc - perceived? I get your stance although I dont agree with it but you dont hold any on the court results against jt3 or the impact it has on recruits or the desire to be here? I think that is insanely close minded. Sure everything that has happened over the last few weeks is a perfect storm of coaching, on the court results, media, fan reaction but if you dont see the perception by some that jt3 had totally lost control of this team, the changing dynamics of college bball, and the inability to turn this around I dont know where you have been. You dont hold the coach accountable at all? Is it not possible that Waters could see what a lot of us perceive as the game has passed jt3 by? Yes he committed when we had a losing record but is it not possible he saw no change in pace of play or potentially other promises jt3 made in terms of on the court strategy and saw no future?
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Post by TC on Mar 11, 2017 21:38:27 GMT -5
You guys can't call for the coach's head and cheer every media talking head that talks about "the JT3 situation" and then pretend like recruits don't notice. The fanbase did this.
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Post by AltoSaxa on Mar 11, 2017 21:42:20 GMT -5
Yeah the kid (and the fans) were told in November '16 how things were going to change. You're right the kid didn't see that what Thompson espoused didn't come to fruition. It was a message board that did it.
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