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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 12:21:19 GMT -5
Hearing the other players in the 2017 class talk about him. they are amazed by him. He is getting that CP3/Curry comp thrown around him. if he was 6'3 instead of 5'11 probably would be a top 10 player ranking wise. Yeah, I mentioned earlier in my ask of the gurus whether he had a weakness other than size, and it got interpreted differently than I meant. I think guard size is VASTLY overrated in college (I think it is barely relevant until the NBA), but we know most of these rankings are based at least partially if not primarily on NBA potential. My point was this -- it looks like he has athleticism, quickness, the handle, the shot, the work ethic, the passing vision, defensive effort, bbiq... I know we've had higher ranked prospects, but I think that if the rankings were just based on college play, he'd be so much higher than #37. When I compare him to someone like Copeland -- who was ranked a bit higher -- my impression is that he's a better college recruit. So much of Copeland's ranking is tied up in his size and length. I know why he was ranked there -- he has NBA size, a skillset that is skilled for that NBA size and enough athleticism that he's a prospect. But he's got some deficiencies to his game -- mindset, handle, any willingness to focus and be in the right place on defense. So my question for the gurus is this: am I interpreting this right? Is this kid a complete stud and he's ranked in the "good but with some weaknesses" range of rankings basically because he's short and the NBA potential is therefore lower? Or am I overreacting to cultivated highlight videos and there are some real weaknesses like we saw with, say, DSR (athleticism and quickness), etc. Maybe another way to ask is: is he better than Chris Wright? 5 star game 4 star frame and yes totally on point when you reference Ike. Ike's rating is bolstered by perceived NBA/long term potential while Waters is reduced because of his. #37 now but wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in the 50's on rsci by end of season. It won't be his fault it will be "scouts" guessing on NBA sleepers.. The only concern is size/strength as you stated, but does literally everything else well, including leading verbally and by example. Very significant recruit.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 4, 2016 11:34:33 GMT -5
All I want for Christmas is Tremont Waters........fingers crossed. So your family and friends will save $$$ on Christmas I guess!
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 4, 2016 15:42:44 GMT -5
All I want for Christmas is Tremont Waters........fingers crossed. So your family and friends will save $$$ on Christmas I guess! That's right! Recently my young nieces asked me what I wanted for Christmas and I told them, Nothing, I already received my gift.
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Post by dense on Nov 5, 2016 0:17:01 GMT -5
Not convinced until Thursday when that LOI comes in lol
edit: not saying anything will happen but I am truly celebrating on Thursday.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 9, 2016 18:00:36 GMT -5
Any word on when he's signing?
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 10, 2016 0:29:12 GMT -5
He signed!!!! Now everyone in DC can sleep easy for the next 4 years.😉
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 10, 2016 7:33:54 GMT -5
Woo Hoo! zzzzzzz . . .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 11:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 10, 2016 12:00:29 GMT -5
BEAST
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 15, 2016 22:52:19 GMT -5
Can't get here fast enough. The Maryland guards just took it to us.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 15, 2016 23:37:18 GMT -5
Yup. Way quicker than us - even the guy who is the fastest we have had since AI.
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 16, 2016 13:30:32 GMT -5
Yup. Way quicker than us - even the guy who is the fastest we have had since AI. Maybe if that guy played more down the stretch we wouldn't be in this predicament.
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Post by wnyhoya on Nov 16, 2016 16:07:10 GMT -5
Yup. Way quicker than us - even the guy who is the fastest we have had since AI. Maybe if that guy played more down the stretch we wouldn't be in this predicament. Was thinking the same thing. I love Jagan but in that instance, gotta think Jon would have been able to stay in front of/attempt to stay in front of Trimble better
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 16, 2016 17:07:16 GMT -5
I'm gonna watch the ending again but I'm pretty sure Mulmore was on Trimble for at least a couple of possessions..
Maryland continued to run screens for whoever the ball handler was, Maryland screened with whoever was guarding Gtown's 5..
On the 3 from Huerter that cut it to 4, Cowan went by LJ due to a screen from the guy guarding Jessie, everyone on Gtown collapsed wide open 3..
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Nov 16, 2016 17:07:41 GMT -5
Maybe if that guy played more down the stretch we wouldn't be in this predicament. Was thinking the same thing. I love Jagan but in that instance, gotta think Jon would have been able to stay in front of/attempt to stay in front of Trimble better Campbell got us in the predicament with the foul and stepping out of bounds, if you gonna point a finger at Jagan then you might as well mention Peak for fouling out.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 16, 2016 17:34:57 GMT -5
I'm gonna watch the ending again but I'm pretty sure Mulmore was on Trimble for at least a couple of possessions.. Maryland continued to run screens for whoever the ball handler was, Maryland screened with whoever was guarding Gtown's 5.. On the 3 from Huerter that cut it to 4, Cowan went by LJ due to a screen from the guy guarding Jessie, everyone on Gtown collapsed wide open 3.. The over-helping on defense, which leaves players open for 3s or lay-ups, continues to be a problem.
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Post by jo247 on Nov 16, 2016 19:13:17 GMT -5
JTIII should of went to a zone the last minute or so. I think it would stop the pick at the top and made them use more of the clock
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Post by wnyhoya on Nov 17, 2016 16:44:58 GMT -5
Was thinking the same thing. I love Jagan but in that instance, gotta think Jon would have been able to stay in front of/attempt to stay in front of Trimble better Campbell got us in the predicament with the foul and stepping out of bounds, if you gonna point a finger at Jagan then you might as well mention Peak for fouling out. Not pointing a finger at Jagan at all. Just saying I would have liked to have seen Jon on Trimble for the entire last 2 minutes. I think maybe he was on him for a possession or two. In fact, I would have preferred to see Tre on the bench and Jagan in the game with Jon.
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 17, 2016 17:18:30 GMT -5
Campbell got us in the predicament with the foul and stepping out of bounds, if you gonna point a finger at Jagan then you might as well mention Peak for fouling out. Not pointing a finger at Jagan at all. Just saying I would have liked to have seen Jon on Trimble for the entire last 2 minutes. I think maybe he was on him for a possession or two. In fact, I would have preferred to see Tre on the bench and Jagan in the game with Jon. This exactly!
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Post by BeantownHoya on Nov 17, 2016 20:53:35 GMT -5
Please still come to Georgetown. Please.
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