blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on Jun 14, 2016 13:22:27 GMT -5
Let us just assume that my definition of "assault rifle" or "military-grade assault rifle" is utterly unacceptable to all quail hunters and .223 enthusiasts. I dare not pull the trigger on defining what these terms mean to gun enthusiasts as I am admittedly no expert.
So for the sake of a frank discussion, are you of the opinion that an open marketplace for all forms of weaponry is consistent with the spirit of the second amendment?
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blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on Jun 14, 2016 14:04:20 GMT -5
Also, please explain to me how a responsible gun shop owner rationalizes the sale of a military-grade assault rifle with fast-loading ammunition magazines and not the sale of protective body armor?
Buyer: Why can't I buy the body armor? I need it to protect myself against criminals, terrorists, irresponsible gun owners, and possibly the government.
Seller: We cannot sell it to you in case you are yourself a criminal, a terrorist, an irresponsible gun owner, or possibly part of the government. We have to be able to shoot you dead to protect ourselves and our loved ones. If you need REAL protection, you have the gun and the ammo I just sold you. That should be enough. Ever heard of the second amendment?
Buyer: So you assume that I have bad intentions if I buy the body armor, but assume that I am a patriot and a God-fearing citizen of the real America if I buy the gun and the ammo? But shouldn't there be a process that can prove that I will be a responsible owner of body armor?
Seller: Well, it could be a long process that requires filling out forms, photocopying IDs, and use of a facsimile machine.
Buyer: If it takes more than 3 days, forget it. Thank goodness I have the guns to keep me and my property safe.
Seller: See, you get it! As they say, offense is the best defense.
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kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Jun 14, 2016 14:18:55 GMT -5
Why are people saying the Orlando shooter used an AR-15?
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Jun 14, 2016 14:59:44 GMT -5
Why are people saying the Orlando shooter used an AR-15? I think members of the media may have it confused with the Sigsauer MCX assault rifle. |
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blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on Jun 14, 2016 15:26:31 GMT -5
People are so uninformed. They are the worst! Or is it the media? They are the worst!
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Post by prhoya on Jun 14, 2016 15:32:53 GMT -5
Just in case you feel the need to kill a lot of innocent people in a nightclub, school, park, etc... You didn't answer the question. I did. I'm O.K. if you didn't like my answer to your question. |
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Post by kchoya on Jun 14, 2016 16:04:04 GMT -5
Let us just assume that my definition of "assault rifle" or "military-grade assault rifle" is utterly unacceptable to all quail hunters and .223 enthusiasts. I dare not pull the trigger on defining what these terms mean to gun enthusiasts as I am admittedly no expert. So for the sake of a frank discussion, are you of the opinion that an open marketplace for all forms of weaponry is consistent with the spirit of the second amendment? At least you admit you're no expert, unlike the legions of anti-gun experts who can't tell the difference between a clip and a magazine. As to your second question, like the First Amendment, I do not believe that the Second Amendment is absolute and has no limits. |
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Jun 14, 2016 17:14:28 GMT -5
Why are people saying the Orlando shooter used an AR-15? I think members of the media may have it confused with the Sigsauer MCX assault rifle. Orlando police officials initially characterized the weapon as an "AR-15-type assault rifle." Yesterday they said it was a Sig Sauer MCX. Different weapon? Yes, but a close cousin, apparently developed at the request of Army special forces. Just what we need for quail and duck hunting. |
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Post by kchoya on Jun 14, 2016 17:28:43 GMT -5
I think members of the media may have it confused with the Sigsauer MCX assault rifle. Orlando police officials initially characterized the weapon as an "AR-15-type assault rifle." Yesterday they said it was a Sig Sauer MCX. Different weapon? Yes, but a close cousin, apparently developed at the request of Army special forces. Just what we need for quail and duck hunting. Well, I guess if we're going to ban "guns used by evil people to do really bad things," then facts and precision really don't matter, do they? |
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Post by This Just In on Jun 14, 2016 21:52:51 GMT -5
I think members of the media may have it confused with the Sigsauer MCX assault rifle. Orlando police officials initially characterized the weapon as an "AR-15-type assault rifle." Yesterday they said it was a Sig Sauer MCX. Different weapon? Yes, but a close cousin, apparently developed at the request of Army special forces. Just what we need for quail and duck hunting. Whether it was an AR-15 or the Sigsauer MCX assault rifle, would the outcome had been any different? The Orlando Police mischaracterization of the weapon used has boosted the sales of AR-15's, thus I do not think the gun manufactures mind the mischaracterization. At least no one can say see...If they were not a "soft target" and had guns too then this would not have happened to them. Excerpts courtesy of the Washington Post While aesthetically similar to and just as lethal as an AR-15, the MCX is internally a different beast, thus all but removing it from the AR-15 family of rifles. Yet while the weapon is different, the MCX and the AR-15 share the same design purpose: providing a highly portable, customizable, easy to operate and accurate rifle for the individual who possesses it. Originally designed for U.S. Special Operations forces, Sig Sauer’s website says that the MCX was built from the “ground up” to be lightweight and short, and that it accepts “a broad array of accessories, enabling you to build a complete weapon system for any scenario or environment.”
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