rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 16, 2016 8:56:08 GMT -5
Exactly. The coming roster shakeup will be a good thing. This team was really bad this year and got worse as the season went on. Not sure why fans wouldn't want things to look a lot different come next October. Leaving aside the ridiculousness/inappropriateness of speculation re transfers, here is the roster shakeup I see happening: DSR - Out Hayes - Out Akoy Agau - In Paul White - In Jagan Mosely - In One other TBD new talent - In That counts as a roster shakeup, so yeah, things will look different. Exactly, don't forget Mulmore. Our roster is already shaken up. Mosley, LJ, Ike, Paul, and Govan is my early prediction for opening day
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 16, 2016 8:58:53 GMT -5
We can't have it both way. There's been a lot of griping about wanting the staff to grind harder and look for under the radar kids, kids that are athletic but not necessarily seen as "high majors" especially those in our own backyard. (Of which I agree they definitely need to). You can't complain when they do that. Whether he works out or not isn't the issue. as Deacon said I'm sure there's more to the offer than just the offer. Relationships are key. Also, if he's listed at 6'7" I'm assuming he's closer to 6'5, 6'6...those that have seen him play, how's his handle? I for one love athletic kids even if they're not "complete" bball players yet. They're the ones who really develop if they work hard. Especially ones that already have the dog in them. You can't really teach intensity. Limited physically players like Reggie's ceilings are that much lower. You take a flyer on a kind like this. Not from me. This staff can't develop talent, and isn't good enough at the Xs and Os to win with mediocre talent, so the only way we're going to win is with excellent talent. We have to recruit at a Syracuse level to be a top 15 program. You mean bring in more Dejuan Colemans and Trevor Cooneys? Okay...
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 16, 2016 9:04:14 GMT -5
That's true in part. Not sure players like Trawick and Whittington could be our best 2 players for us to be a team that goes deep in the tourney, but they absolutely could be 3-5 best on our team. They are both NBDL players and decent ones at that. Not many teams outside the top 15 can say that. Trawick is a dime a dozen. There are 300 players in every class who can play that role. Except he was pivotal to our success and we've only had him play that role over the last decade or so. Obviously you clearly left out Whit who was easily a first round NBA talent....but no you're right we should recruit better than that...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 10:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by bamahoya11 on Apr 16, 2016 12:14:53 GMT -5
These are interesting moves. Like seeing the aggressiveness of the staff. I had my issues with how last season went, but I can't fault their hard work so far in the off season.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 16, 2016 12:38:48 GMT -5
Good to see Coach Hardy sitting front in center in Dallas for Team Loaded Virginia. Hoyas Targets on Team Loaded Virginia Amir Simms Combo Forward-2017 Antwan Walker Guard/Wing-2016/2017 Kiyon Boyd Guard/Wing-2018 David McCormack Post-2018 Blake Harris (Hoyas interest) Combo Guard-2017 Mario Hasket (Hoyas interest) Guard-2017 Rasir Bolton (Hoyas interest) Guard-2018
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 16, 2016 12:57:22 GMT -5
Guards rule the day! Very good to see.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 16, 2016 12:58:17 GMT -5
You develop a couple of good guards over four years and you are Final Four bound. Love it!
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 16, 2016 20:11:03 GMT -5
Not from me. This staff can't develop talent, and isn't good enough at the Xs and Os to win with mediocre talent, so the only way we're going to win is with excellent talent. We have to recruit at a Syracuse level to be a top 15 program. You mean bring in more Dejuan Colemans and Trevor Cooneys? Okay... That's a cute way to portray Syracuse's recruiting. No, like last year when they were 10th in the RSCI rankings and brought in a really good class. The year before was supposed to be a "great" class for us and they were barely behind us in the RSCI rankings (5 spots). The year before they were 10th as well, with a 1st round point guard from that group already. Or the year before when they were 12th. So I'm saying we have to recruit at a top 10 level.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 16, 2016 21:30:04 GMT -5
You mean bring in more Dejuan Colemans and Trevor Cooneys? Okay... That's a cute way to portray Syracuse's recruiting. No, like last year when they were 10th in the RSCI rankings and brought in a really good class. The year before was supposed to be a "great" class for us and they were barely behind us in the RSCI rankings (5 spots). The year before they were 10th as well, with a 1st round point guard from that group already. Or the year before when they were 12th. So I'm saying we have to recruit at a top 10 level. Yet they still lose to us so who cares what numbers some kids have by their names
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 16, 2016 22:27:04 GMT -5
That's a cute way to portray Syracuse's recruiting. No, like last year when they were 10th in the RSCI rankings and brought in a really good class. The year before was supposed to be a "great" class for us and they were barely behind us in the RSCI rankings (5 spots). The year before they were 10th as well, with a 1st round point guard from that group already. Or the year before when they were 12th. So I'm saying we have to recruit at a top 10 level. Yet they still lose to us so who cares what numbers some kids have by their names This is about the level of analysis of the guy who said that they'd still take Kethan Savage over Josh Hart...lololol. They're a much more consistent program than we are and that level of recruiting is why.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 16, 2016 22:32:08 GMT -5
Yet they still lose to us so who cares what numbers some kids have by their names This is about the level of analysis of the guy who said that they'd still take Kethan Savage over Josh Hart...lololol. They're a much more consistent program than we are and that level of recruiting is why. Making stuff up is cool. My point: their recruiting is squarely in the same tier as our recruiting you're trying to create a narrative that doesn't exist
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 16, 2016 22:56:08 GMT -5
This is about the level of analysis of the guy who said that they'd still take Kethan Savage over Josh Hart...lololol. They're a much more consistent program than we are and that level of recruiting is why. Making stuff up is cool. My point: their recruiting is squarely in the same tier as our recruiting you're trying to create a narrative that doesn't exist I thought your point was that recruiting rankings don't matter if we beat them when we play? And no, it's not in the same tier, as I just listed.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 16, 2016 23:06:15 GMT -5
Back to Antwan Walker....
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 17, 2016 5:39:35 GMT -5
Making stuff up is cool. My point: their recruiting is squarely in the same tier as our recruiting you're trying to create a narrative that doesn't exist I thought your point was that recruiting rankings don't matter if we beat them when we play? And no, it's not in the same tier, as I just listed. ....what did you list?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 11:19:26 GMT -5
His Team Loaded Virginia squad fell to the New England Playaz, but 6-foot-7 combo forward Antwan Walker of Team Loaded Virginia was one of the more intriguing prospects on Friday night. As a senior, Walker led Washington (D.C.) Woodson to an undefeated season and now he's got a decision to make between heading to prep school or signing somewhere late. Walker showed athleticism, the ability knock down an open jumper and a high running motor during a 12-point and five-rebound outing. Among those sitting courtside were Georgetown head coach John Thompson III and Xavier's Chris Mack, and Walker said that both of those programs plus others such as James Madison and Rhode Island have offered. According to Walker, he's got the necessary GPA to qualify as a 2016 prospect but he's waiting on his SAT score. Should he decide to sign late he would be a very nice late score. If he goes to the class of 2017, he's the type of late-bloomer who could receive serious consideration for the Rivals150. basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/adidas-gauntlet-five-star-brown-shows-out
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 17, 2016 18:50:12 GMT -5
That one tweet says Georgetown is a favorite. Is there reciprocal interest?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 19:03:35 GMT -5
That one tweet says Georgetown is a favorite. Is there reciprocal interest? Yes for sure...
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 17, 2016 19:08:30 GMT -5
I thought your point was that recruiting rankings don't matter if we beat them when we play? And no, it's not in the same tier, as I just listed. ....what did you list? The RSCI class rankings. I'm done debating little kids who can't even follow the conversation.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 17, 2016 20:28:18 GMT -5
Do we want this kid for '16 or '17? If '16 are we holding out for the grad transfer or qualifying issues with Walker?
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