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Post by saxagael on Feb 24, 2018 15:09:36 GMT -5
Does anyone here think that we would be seeing this from MD if JT3 were still coach? He has no inside game till this year. No hook shot, no fakes. Ewing has really coached him up down low. Turned him into s post back injury LArry Johnson. Derrickson started using the hook his freshman year and used it quite a few times last year. He is using it more this year and has added a left hand hook as well. The offense now works for getting him more of these opportunities than it did in the past, but he did have the shot and it worked consistently.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Feb 24, 2018 18:37:14 GMT -5
Did anyone else see Marcus limping the last of the game,he may need a mri on his knee.he couldn’t jump a couple of times his knee was giving out.its something wrong a sprained knee or something. I hope he is ok basketball isn’t everything,a young mans health is more important.go Hoyas.
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Post by vv83 on Feb 24, 2018 20:46:51 GMT -5
Did anyone else see Marcus limping the last of the game,he may need a mri on his knee.he couldn’t jump a couple of times his knee was giving out.its something wrong a sprained knee or something. I hope he is ok basketball isn’t everything,a young mans health is more important.go Hoyas. midway through the second half, he had the ball under the offensive basket, went to make a move = and yelled out in pain while basically collapsing on the ground. He left the game, and did not come back in until the final 3 or 4 minutes. He went to the locker room to have his leg checked out. Our seats are right along the baseline where this happened, so we had a real good look - he seemed to be in some significant, sudden pain when he went down. I'm not sure how much of this detail the TV feed captured.. He struggled to finish inside today. Perhaps he does have something going on with his leg/ankle that caused him to be less explosive/powerful around the rim.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 24, 2018 21:04:49 GMT -5
Did anyone else see Marcus limping the last of the game,he may need a mri on his knee.he couldn’t jump a couple of times his knee was giving out.its something wrong a sprained knee or something. I hope he is ok basketball isn’t everything,a young mans health is more important.go Hoyas. midway through the second half, he had the ball under the offensive basket, went to make a move = and yelled out in pain while basically collapsing on the ground. He left the game, and did not come back in until the final 3 or 4 minutes. He went to the locker room to have his leg checked out. Our seats are right along the baseline where this happened, so we had a real good look - he seemed to be in some significant, sudden pain when he went down. I'm not sure how much of this detail the TV feed captured.. He struggled to finish inside today. Perhaps he does have something going on with his leg/ankle that caused him to be less explosive/powerful around the rim. I would shut him Down till the BET.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 25, 2018 0:28:16 GMT -5
Did anyone else see Marcus limping the last of the game,he may need a mri on his knee.he couldn’t jump a couple of times his knee was giving out.its something wrong a sprained knee or something. I hope he is ok basketball isn’t everything,a young mans health is more important.go Hoyas. midway through the second half, he had the ball under the offensive basket, went to make a move = and yelled out in pain while basically collapsing on the ground. He left the game, and did not come back in until the final 3 or 4 minutes. He went to the locker room to have his leg checked out. Our seats are right along the baseline where this happened, so we had a real good look - he seemed to be in some significant, sudden pain when he went down. I'm not sure how much of this detail the TV feed captured.. He struggled to finish inside today. Perhaps he does have something going on with his leg/ankle that caused him to be less explosive/powerful around the rim. He hyperextended his knee pretty badly. It definitely caused him problems the rest of the game. It only was he less explosive but he was noticeably slower getting up and down the court. Really hope he is OK.
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Post by saxagael on Feb 25, 2018 13:49:53 GMT -5
Did anyone else see Marcus limping the last of the game,he may need a mri on his knee.he couldn’t jump a couple of times his knee was giving out.its something wrong a sprained knee or something. I hope he is ok basketball isn’t everything,a young mans health is more important.go Hoyas. midway through the second half, he had the ball under the offensive basket, went to make a move = and yelled out in pain while basically collapsing on the ground. He left the game, and did not come back in until the final 3 or 4 minutes. He went to the locker room to have his leg checked out. Our seats are right along the baseline where this happened, so we had a real good look - he seemed to be in some significant, sudden pain when he went down. I'm not sure how much of this detail the TV feed captured.. He struggled to finish inside today. Perhaps he does have something going on with his leg/ankle that caused him to be less explosive/powerful around the rim. Derrickson was geting quickly double teamed on the inside. None of his teammates rotated to help him to have an easy pass out of the double team. Derrickson and Pickett were guarded rather tightly at all times no matter where they were on the court. With regard to his knee it looked like he hyper extended it when he came down. His leg was a little wider and he landed on it fully locked rather than bent. Since his stepping on the ball in the Kenner League game a couple summers ago he normally jumps balance take off and landing (a strong big man type jump), this takes wear and tear off the knees a bit. Yesterday he was bumped coming down and is one leg landed before the other. It was a good sign that he jogged off through the tunnel. I don't know if it mentally impacted his game, after that, but he was well covered much of the game. After the knee issue he was still getting up high on defensive rebounds, which he as been doing more noticeably the last couple weeks or so. He is really good at boxing out and controlling the space around the boards, but he seems to be much more aggressive going up to get the rebound recently. His getting mid-forearm or higher on the rebounds with balanced two hands up jumps for defensive rebounds.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 1, 2018 15:43:33 GMT -5
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Post by justsaying on Mar 1, 2018 15:54:15 GMT -5
Just my opinion without any further knowledge of Marcus physical status what I saw against Marquette was that Marcus did not appear to be at full speed. Hopefully given this week and up to the BE tourney he will be at full tilt. Seems as though a couple of times I saw a ginger step or two.
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Post by saxagael on Mar 4, 2018 17:06:18 GMT -5
Good to see Derrickson on the All Big East 2nd team his junior year. Next year first team or MVP.
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Post by saxagael on Mar 7, 2018 22:00:05 GMT -5
Hoping Derrickson gets his knee checked out as his right knee seems to have locked-up / jammed yet again in BET game and was running gingerly. It is the same knee he had injured in Kenner League a couple summers ago when he stepped on the ball running down court (really tough to watch).
He seems like he slimmed down a little during the season. Would be good to that continue a little, but get stronger too.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 7, 2018 23:38:25 GMT -5
Derrickson was by far our most valuable player this year and I expect more of the same next year. While I have been vocal about certain players not improving and our defense not improving much over the course of the year, Derrickson clearly improved and was a hugely valuable player. He has more work to do on defense than offense but I expect big things from him next season.
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 8, 2018 11:14:58 GMT -5
The offseason will do Marcus and Jessie well. They carried a huge load this season and will welcome the rest. Hopefully both do keep their conditioning up and work on the few weaknesses each have. They'll be the centerpoints of the team again next year but will hopefully have more support and back-up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 12:43:04 GMT -5
Fwiw
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 8, 2018 12:53:22 GMT -5
Derrickson was by far our most valuable player this year and I expect more of the same next year. While I have been vocal about certain players not improving and our defense not improving much over the course of the year, Derrickson clearly improved and was a hugely valuable player. He has more work to do on defense than offense but I expect big things from him next season. I understand thinking Derrickson is the MVP of the team. But by far? By far over the guy who is the first Hoya to average a double-double since Mike Sweetney? The guy who led the team in both points and rebounds this year and is a matchup problem for pretty much every team in the Big East? The lack of appreciation for Govan among so many Hoya fans still amazes me. Losing Govan would affect this team just as negatively as it would if it lost Derrickson.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 8, 2018 13:04:21 GMT -5
When you look at the all-BE teams - only Derrickson, Markus Howard and (maybe?) Shamorie Ponds seem likely to return next year from the 15 or so players named to these teams. The rest are seniors, or underclass players that seem likely to leave college early.
Add in Govan and 2 of the 6 all-freshman players - from this perspective, we have a pretty solid 4 player foundation compared to the rest of the league next year. Of course, opinions certainly vary on Blair's value. But the BE does not have a lot of high level returning talent next season, the conference is very junior/Senior heavy in high end talent this year.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 8, 2018 13:07:20 GMT -5
I know these things are subject to change, but this is the best item of news I have read today. First, casual is right-- we would have an elite front court with these guys back. Put a few guards around them, and we could be quite competitive. I'll keep my fingers crossed until the deadlines pass, but I hope we see them back next year.
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Post by the_way on Mar 8, 2018 13:13:48 GMT -5
Derrickson was by far our most valuable player this year and I expect more of the same next year. While I have been vocal about certain players not improving and our defense not improving much over the course of the year, Derrickson clearly improved and was a hugely valuable player. He has more work to do on defense than offense but I expect big things from him next season. I understand thinking Derrickson is the MVP of the team. But by far? By far over the guy who is the first Hoya to average a double-double since Mike Sweetney? The guy who led the team in both points and rebounds this year and is a matchup problem for pretty much every team in the Big East? The lack of appreciation for Govan among so many Hoya fans still amazes me. Losing Govan would affect this team just as negatively as it would if it lost Derrickson. Ahh, you and your love for Mike Sweetney. Yes, Marcus by far. It is not a slight on Govan at all. In fact, this board has been on the Govan bandwagon from day one.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 8, 2018 13:17:55 GMT -5
I understand thinking Derrickson is the MVP of the team. But by far? By far over the guy who is the first Hoya to average a double-double since Mike Sweetney? The guy who led the team in both points and rebounds this year and is a matchup problem for pretty much every team in the Big East? The lack of appreciation for Govan among so many Hoya fans still amazes me. Losing Govan would affect this team just as negatively as it would if it lost Derrickson. There is no lack of appreciation of Govan here. Clearly, Jesse Govan was a very good player for us this season. Without him, we would have been way worse than we were, and probably lucky to get out of the Big East with more than a win or two. Having Govan on next year's team will be a huge factor. I think you're right that this team cannot stand to lose either Govan or Derrickson because they are easily our two best players. I do think Derrickson had a better Big East this year, but they both had good years overall. Govan struggled for much of the first part of the Big East season, whereas Derrickson was more consistent throughout the season. So that's why I give the edge to Derrickson. Also, when only one could be on the floor, the team performed better with Derrickson. If you want to quibble with my use of "by far," go for it, but there's no lack of appreciation of Govan here. It's easy to say Derrickson was the best player, while still acknowledging that Govan was also really good.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 8, 2018 13:41:30 GMT -5
I think they had the best tandem of front court bigs (4/5) players in the Big East this year, so another year of hard work should only help them improve. I think Marcus made huge strides and deserved the honors he has received. Jessie also showed great improvement but I think he has a lot more room for growth. I think I heard Ewing say one time that Jessie does not realize how good he can be yet. Sometime Jessie is playing a good game and he seems satisfied with that level of performance. I think Ewing wants him to be great, and to still not be satisfied with that, he wants him to go there and play like he expects to dominate the entire game. Marcus seems to have a little more killer instinct in him that Jessie does. If Ewing can get Jessie to play wiht close to the intensity he used to play with, watch out!!!!
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 8, 2018 13:43:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure if Derrickson was more consistent. He probably didn't have the stretches of games in which he was far less effective like Govan, but seemed more inconsistent from game to game.
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